Downvoted out of childish revenge

in #steemit7 years ago

So I found a post called "How I became a professional Steemit flagger" It was a trash fire of intellectual dishonesty. In this post the user was justifying flagging other content for fun in fact the post was in the funny category. This user had some weak reasons to use it's steem power to attack minnows and the user was proud of it.
I decided to flag his post as the user found it so amusing to flag I thought the user would like to be flagged. It was in revenge the user flagged one of my posts a random harmless post about something minnows suffer from you know helping new users. This post was then upvoted by the minnow support group and it wiped out his flag.
BUT THE WARNING HERE IS SOME PEOPLE WILL ABUSE THEIR FLAGGING AND WE HAVE NO RECOURSE

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In the past there have been accounts mass flagging for no reason. There are usually users in #steemitabuse that will help.

I help low SP weight users on a case by case basis. I do not get involved in content disputes or any instance where someone has flagged another person with a reason, whether that reason is right or wrong in my opinion.

You were flagged for using the # introduceyourself tag.

Now that I don't have a clue. You'd have to ask @bloom

You are more likely to have someone tell you, "if you don't like it build your own, the software is open-source" than tell you they are doing something wrong. If you read the White Papers it clearly states abuse is not discouraged and is also considered to be creating content. So....
I totally understand what you're saying though. Feel free to check out my feed, where I have addressed several issues relating to this as well as resteemed content relating that I found to be informative and worth spreading.
Best of luck in your future adventures!
Besides, I think 'flag wars' are going to spring up any time there is a flood of newcomers learning the ropes. Seems to be a natural part of the system's evolution (and a luxury afforded to high-investors).

Then I could write a bot to downvote and buy it lots of steem power and then automatically flag content which reaches it's steem power vote value thus crushing value out the system all the time?

Indeed. If you read the White Papers, it pretty much says "if you can do it, do it; there is nothing built into the system to stop you".
And now with rumblings of bitconnect being a mlm scheme (multi level marketing scheme) and it's connection to those promoting it here....
I encourage you to find and read the White Papers (at least steemit has one, apparently bitconnect does not).

I get asked if things are "allowed" frequently. It's not whether or not it is allowed it is how the community will react to what you do.

Wow thanks for the great info I will read the white paper. So why is your reputation only 3? You have been super nice and informative.

5 flags - Rep of 50 down to 5 overnight - from one user for asking him if he believed his tactics here are moral and ethical (his habit of flagging for the sole purpose of returning rewards to the pool and then high-value self-upvoting to basically confiscate that from which was flagged). It doesn't take much if you upset the wrong people here.

From the whitepaper:

Eliminating “abuse” is not possible and shouldn’t be the goal. Even those who are attempting
to “abuse” the system are still doing work. Any compensation they get for their successful
attempts at abuse or collusion is at least as valuable for the purpose of distributing the
currency as the make-work system employed by traditional Bitcoin mining or the collusive
mining done via mining pools. All that is necessary is to ensure that abuse isn’t so rampant
that it undermines the incentive to do real work in support of the community and its
currency.

Abuse that affects the value of STEEM/SBD and the success of the platform is discouraged.

Thank You, though (through my eyes anyway, the short time I have been here) it sure seems their interpretation of "rampant abuse" is fairly loose considering I see more of it than I do legitimate promoting (in fact, the more successful of the questionable ones can post complete spam and their network will support it with their upvotes and comments etc. - it's not even about content any more so much as it is about controlling a Network of Accounts really).
At least there seems to be more and more exposure and resistance to it, yet if it amounts to nothing it's just playing tag (and let's face it, one person controlling multiple accounts of high value can crush even a large band of resistant others... and do we really think those resisting should have to use up their voting power flagging or suffer being flagged for exposing abusive people? Seems the ones suffering the most are the newcomers who have barely anything to build on to begin with).

HOLY SHIT WE ARE ENCOURAGED TOO CHEAT!! Wow this is awesome so guys you have any ideas? I think getting 50 accounts then I write a upvote and down vote bot and use the hierarchy of comments to push the rewards out of comment section to the author? or out the large post comments into my comment?I only have a rough idea but that is possible?

If that is how you interpret it and you have the equipment and know-how to achieve it.... the only thing to stop you is whether the Community will use their voting power and influence to stop you or not, whether they join you or ignore you or fight you would remain to be scene (though, from my observations, you would be more likely to find extensive support and even those willing to join your Network rather than finding any resistance in those willing to sacrifice their voting power and Reputations to fight and expose you).

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