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RE: The Steemit Issues - Arguments From The Other Side - PART 1 - Censorship

in #steemit7 years ago

I never thought of this like that:

If i come to the post you made and called you an asshole for what you said it is the same as me calling you an asshole for saying something in public.

I'm not against censorship but I agree with many things you said about it, I still think freedom should be restricted somehow... But the question is, who has the right and the ability to do so? who can make sure those people are safe from corruption too?

In my eyes scam comments and plagiarized posts are bigger problem... the ability for the community to censor those is required.... unless we find a better solution and a system for it?

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I still think freedom should be restricted somehow...

ouch, im just in awe that you think that.

But the question is, who has the right and the ability to do so? who can make sure those people are safe from corruption too?

No one has the right to choose for everyone, people should have the choice them self. Without freespeech how will you know the censorship camp is corrupt if it is?

A question i have asked a couple people on this subject is,

"would you give me the right to choose for you what you can and cant look at on steemit?"

I hope the answer was "Fuck no!" and i dont see why i should let anyone else choose for me. I dont want a steemit mommy or daddy that tells me what i can and cant see. lol

In my eyes scam comments and plagiarized posts are bigger problem...

scam comments i do not see a problem right now, you have a mute button and a voice. What one person calls a scam another calls the best move they made in life. it is subjective. the solution to a scam is counter information or your mute button. You could use your voice to provide information on why its a scam and maybe tell others to mute the scammer. Maybe i want to read scam posts all day, who are you or anyone to tell me i dont have the right to look at that information just because you call it a scam?
as for plagiarized posts, that and child porn are the only 2 things i see acceptable to use the flag for. i have no problem if its a repost of something or a mirror as long as the the person isnt claiming its their original work and the original creator is clearly shown so it cant be mistaken. but again counter information is the answer to that or the mute if you dont want to see the copy pasta posters work.

I have never flagged anyone, there is always a better solution to the problem and free speech it the key to it. in my messed up opinion atleast.
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That's interesting comment:

Maybe i want to read scam posts all day, who are you or anyone to tell me i don't have the right to look at that information just because you call it a scam?

Why I think freedom should be restricted? freedom can be very toxic. Not everyone can handle it (the majority of humans are weak)... and the value of a currency like STEEM is related a lot to the value of information here.... If the majority of posts and comments aren't quality the system will become unsustainable... STEEM value will go down to zero... and this sytem will become worse than facebook.

Still, many things that get censored are sadly... things that you said... things that are very subjective and got flagged only because some whale didn't like it.

But as I said.. who gets the right to restrict the freedom?... the community as whole? then it'll become just a majority ruled website... any solution I can imagine means the elimination of "free speech" which is what your post is all about.

By the way I don't want to argue my belief... just wanted to state it... your way of seeing things
isn't bad too... I just slightly disagree...

I have never flagged anyone, there is always a better solution to the problem and free speech it the key to it. in my messed up opinion at least.

Flagging should be the final solution, where no other solution work!! And No, your opinion isn't messed up!! and you should be proud of that... while I disagree with you I know where come from.

I like how we disagree but are able to talk about it and it hasent gotten stupid. lol
I have a couple other comments i have to reply to and then i will get to yours. one other person before you that also left a really good comment that i think should get the time deserved to an answer. i hope you can understand how long im taking to reply as i want to give this conversation my full attention and till i can get all the comments before you gone i cant really do that. I will answer it just might take a little time.
Would i be able to make a post out of it or would you prefer i replied as a comment? i think its good we are having this conversation but i also think it could be good for others to see both sides of it.

Either way i will reply asap. comments after you i hope are quick ones and only one before yours that i need to spend some serious time on. so hopefully by end of the night.
thanks for your understanding and sorry for the rambling and spelling and typos.
lol

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I think it's better if you made a post about it...

Actually I hate arguing and I wanted to stop the conversation after my last comment (just wanted to state my reason)...

I like how we disagree but are able to talk about it and it hasent gotten stupid.

me too !!

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i understand sometimes i get over a conversation and just want it to end too.
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Hope you have a wonderful evening/day!

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