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There are some but they cannot take blame for this HF 20 as there hands were tied. It is political and now after this I think they will have more say and will speak up.

Edit: even if it is political and they had to push, I believe, there should be some gap between the two (steemit developers and witnesses).

Anyway, just my belief, even if it is wrong, all I would like to know, who they are, so I can vote per my belief. Looks like I will need to try to get this info somewhere else. Thanks.

I don't know who they are which ones develop or not.

OK, thank you

Steemit inc told them to push. Witnesses are users like you and me. That was not what I was understanding what you were saying. there are some developers who are witnesses but don't develop for Steem.

Yesh not even my wife always understands me ;-)

If we as a group, users, vote more 'non steemit' developers into top 20, then in the future it will not matter how much steemit inc pressure their employees. So it is up to us to try to take away too much steemit inc influence by voting for non steemit employee withnesses. That's my take on the whole situation.

I understand what you are saying. The way i see it we need non steemitinc developers as witnesses which is what we have now. the communication was non existent from my understanding and they couldn't do a thing. I have a feeling the meetings that will happen discussing this aftermath will get it right between the witnesses now. They are not happy what happened and developers will get more involved and hands on now.

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