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Authors are often accused of not having much skin in the game. The curators have the most skin because they need to be powered up to upvote content and give Steem. While this is 100% factual on paper, in reality it doesn't matter.

So, similarly, we can say Mike Tyson had no skin in the game, either. It was the people in the crowd, paying the high price of admission for their seat that had the real skin in the game. Even though Mike was risking his face (content creators risk reputation) - the value was subjective and the real value was calculated by ticket sales/total views.

The chicken and the egg. Without the crowd, there would be no event, without Mike, there would be no crowd.

Without content creators, Steem blockchain would be an empty event. Even shitposting is creating something. We have Steem Monsters, but that thrived off from a strong established Steem community. Steem is an action blockchain, and authors are the ones putting butts in the seats.
Bitcoin would be worth about three dollars and fiffy cents right now if it was just Satoshi, Gavin and Roger and a niche group hodling it and no one else did.

We need authors, creators to bring people to upvote. The same way the upvote brings authors and creators.

Wise investors can see that making the Mike Tyson's of the world happy is the first priority. You can't light a fire without a spark and you can't have a boxing match without fighters. So, when we make a move into the future as a community, we should have the creators in mind first, curators second and investors third; without even one of the first two, you don't have the third. Make something badass with great incentives and they will come.

I envision Steem being much more than just a place to create and express yourself, it is already happening.
But in the words of Apu from the Simpsons, mom said: "Never forget who you are"

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I think it’s hard to tell authors apart from curators, nowadays most people are both authors and curators, right? I think we actually have or at least had enoughg content creators here for the size of Steem, but it’s just not well curated.

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yep... most authors are curators
(because most people that take the time to post also take the time to comment on their posts and other people's posts which also means they take the time to curate)

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I tend to visit other posts, comment and upvote without really caring if I receive any curation rewards. My first interest is creating content because I want to improve my writing craft.

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That's a good attitude, @shadowspub. While it's nice to see the curation rewards grow over time, they're negligible compared to author rewards. For one thing, you're sharing them with other curators, so it's often only pennies, unless you invest heavily in Steem, which some have done. Authoring posts takes more time, but you have way more potential in earning rewards from those posts.

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they are negligible in compared to author rewards but with the current system, they are more a race to upvote soon enough than to really find good posts to support and engage with.

I really hope some efforts are put into making curation real curation. Curation guilds have been tried in the past but they turned into more circle jerks than taking the time to seek out good content. The work of Curie, C-squared and many other independent manual curators are really under appreciated in an automated system. Not sure how that can be overcome.

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@shadowspub & @blockurator,

Any system that does not employ Manual Curators in the First Line of Discovery will fail. Auto-upvoters, like Air Support, play a critical role ... supporting, and force-multiplying, the boots on the ground. But the latter cannot take the place of the former. The subtle intricacies involved in detecting the extraordinary are well beyond even the most sophisticated algorithm.

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I agree with you @shadowspub, and I like engaging with fellow Steemians on things I find interesting, but on which I might not necessarily write. I wish I had more time to do that...

I think that curation needs some definition, @joythewanderer - it took me a while to understand that on Steemit is was about upvoting, commenting and re-steeming. In my head, curation is a considered selection of items/articles and/or artefacts that are showcased.

I have also commented and pontificated ad nauseum on other blogs, and more recently in a conversation with @quillfire and @blockurator about quality and similar issues.

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I think that curation needs some definition, @joythewanderer - it took me a while to understand that on Steemit is was about upvoting, commenting and re-steeming. In my head, curation is a considered selection of items/articles and/or artefacts that are showcased.

you nailed that. Curation on the platform tends to be more about a race to upvote soon enough to earn rewards. That is one reason I've tended to oppose increasing curation rewards as it doesn't increase engagement.

If more support went to those who take the time to seek out and support people who create good content, I'd be inclined to share more as an author with curators. At this point there isn't really a mechanism which does this. The Steeve.app project may have some possibilities with it's use of AI.

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I am glad to hear that I am not alone in my thinking/understanding about this @shadowspub and @blockurator is also spot on. Authoring good posts, i.e. writing something coherent that is 500 + words takes time. Too many people think that because good writing is easy to read, it's easy to write. They don't realise that writing is a recursive process and that it's rare for a writer to simply dash something off and go:

"well, there it is, then"

Which Ironically, is part of my sign-off. LOL

Let's see how things go :D

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Joy, I think you are right.... more Steemit authors and content creators need to become better Curators as well as more engaging with their followers.

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Spot on the money, you always have an inspired and insightful outlook on the blockchain. We have some truly incredible content creators on the Steem Blockchain, they add value every time they post and deserve recognition - but often still we struggle to give our quality content creators the recognition they deserve. And they will leave, why put so much time and effort into creating incredible work - if they struggle to get any reward for the effort?

I do not want to be biased, and I do not think I am - because time and time again I will tell anyone that cares to listen I believe this - @yidneth is an incredible content creator - her posts are always 110% and her content is available on far more channels then just Steem - her posts absolutely deserve far more recognition then they currently receive. That is just one example, there are so many more - and indeed more that I still have not even encountered yet on here since I joined March 2017 - and that's the other problem - how to connect people with the content.

The biggest challenge still is connecting people and content, last week @novacadian introduced me to steeve.app front end - and that is an amazing concept - it totally reworks my feed and presents to me from my entire followers the posts I want to see - by magic! And that is the power of the Steem Blockchain - the way we interact it with it is just a code away from perfect - the data going into the blockchain can be extracted in so many ways - combining the quality content put in with a front end then pushes it back out for the people to see and appreciate - that is the challenge.

We need to support content creators driving the amazing content that will draw people in, but we also need to support the developers that are finding new and incredible ways to pull and display the content from the blockchain to people - because when someone can log into a front end and see a feed of the posts they want to see and upvote - straight off - that is the holy grail - you connect people who have the ability to upvote content with the creators making the content they want to see.

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I don't disagree with you, but I think the dynamics are a bit different here than on almost any other site you go to. Steemit as it currently exists is not a content driven platform. I've been here for going on three years now and we've been trying to progress to that point for a long time, but the problem I see is that the people with the most invested (mainly due to the ninjamine) don't see the big picture. I'm not saying all of this to be negative, just to point out some of the facts as I see it. Most don't want to stop draining the reward pool for their own benefit to actually increase the value of the platform as a whole. Ultimately that doesn't matter though and here's why.

We need killer dapps and front ends that utilize different methods to create value and basically doing the things that we aren't currently able to do on the base layer of STEEM. Once bidbots got introduced people stopped using the burn mechanics to promote posts as bidbot owners sold them on the illusion that they are just promoting and paying themselves with their own money and it's win win, but it's not. Essentially bidbot owners just bypass the 7 day waiting period to cash out on their ability to upvote farm themselves without having to make shitposts or comment farms. Different frontends will be able to break away from using STEEM and SBD and create their own tokens/SMTs (hopefully) that have value and proper usecases to fix the problems that Steemit will never fix.

Imagine if Twitter for example ran on the STEEM blockchain and all of their advertisements and promoted content were paid for with a token, we'll call it TWIT for this example. Twitter could then find a proper balance to award authors and curators to actually make a content driven platform and the value of the token would come from the companies that are buying it off the exchanges to promote on Twitter. Obviously content is king and is what drives people to the platform. Not everyone is being followed by millions of people and not everyone gets millions of retweets, but the people that are should be getting the highest distribution of author rewards and the people curating and commenting could be rewarded proportionately as well.

Essentially any social media could adopt this concept. Burning tokens increases the scarcity and counters the inflation being paid out to authors and curators. The tokens get decentralized by getting it in the hands of as many people as possible, which increases the value as well. As long as 1% of the "users," which are really more stakeholders than anything, holds 95% + of the STEEM on the platform it's not going to change unless they do. So instead, we build something better on top of the platform that operates independent of the standard protocol and creates a meaningful and mutually beneficial store of value.

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I see things like SMT essential for creating/experimenting with new token economies. The Steem project that gets advertising right with a proper burn/reward model will be that killer dapp. I see SMTs essential for scaling, having thousands of dapps all using just the Steem token would dilute the reward pool for each site. I have my idea of Steem being that upvote for the internet, accepted everywhere. So you can still upvote on these sites using your Steem power but you would get rewarded in TWIT token or what have you. All all the tokens tradeable against Steem. That is the dream. Things like Steem Engine can then build projects that don't need the SMT features, for other use case dapps that benefit from having a large active community. With all that said, I still believe having the large upvote, that can be used everywhere to earn various tokens that are built on Steem, would be the ideal route. This is up to the project creators to go this route but this is what I am building towards and these are the types of projects I will support.

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It sounds like we mostly see things the same way, the only difference is probably that I see STEEM as more of a "fuel" or "resource" that's required to run these other dapps or intermediary tools to tokenize other sites.

Essentially if everyone likes going to the mall and interacting or spending their money there, STEEM is the transit system that most end users don't really put that much thought into and as long as it's working they never need to. The value of STEEM is inherent to the simple fact that it's required to keep things running, so successful dapps are going to need to be holding large amounts of STEEM to do business, but it's kind of irrelevant if their users ever hear of anything beyond TWIT or whatever token they are using.

I do like the idea of STEEM being the token that all of these are traded against and that is one of the things I remember stressing to aggroed over and over again when discussing the concept that eventually became steem-engine. Thanks for the insight, I just wish we had more investors with this mindset from the get go, but all things in due time. Happy to have you here!

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You give great input and it helps me think, so glad to have you here as well! I believe, in a world where Twitter runs on Steem, that Steem will be so scare a resource that 99% of Twitter users will only have TWIT in their wallets. Of course, TWIT is the "Steem Power" of TWIT and does all the things Steem does on Steemit, for example. In the world where Steem becomes that backbone, most users won't have the luxury of being able to own much Steem because it would be mainly used up by developers as sort of a virtual real estate. And those that are lucky to have some Steem Power they want to upvote with, well just like gold it is as good as money, universally.

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Seems like you and many others like @stephenkendal are thinking alike... #steemtwitter

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Nice, that's one of the things I love about this place, the exchange of ideas. I love the idea of using steem like the gas of the network or RC's, just have to be careful not to kill new dApps off like the HF did with new users. It would encourage investment in the platform from the dApp owners though, requiring them to at least put a little more skin in the game for their app other than just hosting services and a frontend. It would require at least some investment into the backbone of the system, the larger they scale their app the more investment required. It would take a lot of users and dApps to make it like gold, but it's definitely possible. Working a mechanism into the SMT's to burn some steem might stem some of the inflation issues, it could be something as simple as the promoted section used to be. When an advertiser on a dApp paid for an ad, burn a portion of it. Just a thought that hit while skimming through...

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There is a Tweet token on the TRON Network..... I have a few million of them to had out.

From my point, without content creators steem blockchain wouldn't have work properly. If author doesn't get paid, may be they will move forward towards other social media, For example, if i don't get support or get paid , may be i would prefer instagram or twitter more than steem blockchain. So , i agree with you. Without support, without community; people loose interest and leave blockchain.Infact community build by several people. It's only my opinion.. May be there is more to discuss.

Nice to read this, I can't remember seeing these kind of sentiments before from someone influential like yourself. I'm not in the financial position to invest my own cash so trying hard to make my posts as entertaining as possible seems a fair trade. I don't often get big payouts but when a nice upvote comes along it honestly gives me a boost and I can also say the same for a post that gets lots of comments. Thanks for taking the time to write something like this, it's much appreciated :)

"Wise investors can see that making the Mike Tyson's of the world happy is the first priority. You can't light a fire without a spark and you can't have a boxing match without fighters."
Glad you are here.

'So, when we make a move into the future as a community, we should have the creators in mind first, curators second and investors third; without even one of the first two, you don't have the third.'

I hope that a lot of those who are FOR reducing the author rewards by 20% and use this for the WPS fund are gonna read this post.
Resteemed!

I often marvel at the argument: don't worry about the authors, think about the investors!

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Great thoughts here @Theycallmedan. Of late, I strategized a steem-based project- @Writeandearn where I hope to help paper authors authors have their contents published on the blockchain and on print. I have a great support from future investors and am working hard to have the project come to limelight by March 2019.

It's an ecosystem. :)

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You're actually very correct, the truth is this platform needs it's sub elements in other to fuction well, and this involves having content creator and content rewarders, including other parts too that makes up the blockchain just that sometimes people tend to underestimate the values of the content creators

Hi Dan,
I was recently reminded just how amazing Steem is ... transferring from Bittrex to a third party took just seconds and costed just 1 cent! While banks would have wanted at least $25 and a week to do the same! I truly see Steem as a serious crypto currency that could take a huge amounts of market share of the digital value transactions needed to run planet Earth! I do actually have a business idea to make that all happen faster! - I will email you shortly.

Keep well bro :D

@theycallmedan 100% upvote (2 cents lol) Love this post you are right on the money.
Resteemed!! WE need more open-minded people like you in Steemit!
Thank you for writing this. Tweeted too :)

Hey Dan, that was quick... thank you so much I am back in the top 20. I will always remember this, call on me whenever you need anything, you now have a new ally on Steem.

Hey Dan, I agree that we need more authors and creators. I currently incubate developers and app creators via @buildteam. I actually need your help, I just fell out of my top20 witness position, your vote could help me get back in. If you feel I am someone you can vote for and need more info, you can have a look at my post here. Thanks in advance!

Brother @theycallmedan, Author is curator (Consumer) too and we can see this subject under the hood of Unification, means an individual have to play Dual role, **For example, Seller is buyer too.

Everything is content, without content (Product) there is no consumer and there will be no revenue.

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Wishing you an great day and stay blessed brother.

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Agreed. If we create content, we are also investing in the blockchain - we are investing our time. And, to be at least a little bit successful, we also need to be curators Then, many of us also invest fiat because we want to have an higher upvote for our fellow creators...

So, when we make a move into the future as a community, we should have the creators in mind first, curators second and investors third; without even one of the first two, you don't have the third.

Wise words mate. And in the correct order.
Unless there were no content creators, curators wouldn't be able to upvote...so...no steem mining....And steem HAS to be mined...it's how this blockchain was designed.
Spot on once again. We still have a long way to go but I enjoy the whole process.

Bang on.

One of the big problems that this place has always had is the cavalier attitude to content creators. Usually from people who aren't very good at it.

They will say that the content simply isn't here or that authors just don't have any skin in the game but they forget that without content, as you say, this place would be a ghost town.

If people feel they aren't being rewarded enough they will want to leave. There really will be less quality content to view.

Reducing rewards even slightly is just one more blow against genuine content creators that call this place home.

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right on @meesterboom ... I find it interesting when I look over at State of Dapps site and look at the number of users on the various dapps there, Steem pretty consistently has more users. The content on the platform is an avenue to get the word out not about able the platform, but the dapps themselves.

Devaluing any area of the platform ... devalues all of it.

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You have a way of getting to the heart of it with that last line!

It's so true. I have many friends who are great fans of the shiny shiny new apps and websites. The thing is though. They might be drawn to the shiny shiny type of apps but if there isnt content there to back it up they stop using it. An example that even comes to mins is Sola. That was a lovely app, beautiful interface and very slick. But the content was just blagged stuff from the internet and as such no-one I know uses it anymore.

But yes, devaluing any area of the platform is bad :O)

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yes I looked at Sola and didn't find anything to keep me coming back. It was pretty but not engaging.

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very well said

Steem is a social platform and it must be used like one by each and everyone of us with the empowerment that we have may it be by curation, content-creation, or commentating @theycallmedan in that way the outsiders will get encouraged to join in and will certainly make steem more valuable because many people will eventually hold steem and make it scarce and finally it will make it more valuable like a snowball effect which is exciting to see in the future.

Hmmm.... This makes me want to run some of my ideas by you Dan.

While I have the utmost respect for Nathan Mars and his efforts to encourage mass adoption by bringing Dtube, and the blockchain in general, to the attention of the outside world via Twitter, my approach of choice would be from a different angle. Because I still look at Dtube and think, as I did when I first started on the Steem blockchain: this looks like YouTube except without all the cat videos, stop motion legos, sketch comedy, parquor, random gaming vids, stupid people tricks, movie reviews, weird and funny anecdotes, urban legends, quizzes, amateur animations, spoofs, pranks, bizarre facts and...you know. All the FUN stuff. Bear in mind I mostly experience YouTube through the eyes of my 12 year old, but still... I can't help thinking that we need more gratuitous entertainment on this platform.

As a content creator, on Dtube primarily at the moment, I like to find ways of increasing engagement and interaction with the community, and to that end I've developed a contest that gets people involved in the creative process which is the central focus of my Half Hour Songwrite vlog. Rather than just doing a vlog where I speedwrite pop songs, which could leave me, as a creator, writing and performing in a vacuum, and asking myself if there's even anybody out there watching, I've come up with a contest, which runs concurrently, in which I ask people to come up with the prompt for my next episode. There's a different theme for each prompt contest. Participants have fun with it (hopefully), and win prizes. I have a continuous supply of creative inspiration for my songwrite episodes. And for me the prompt contests have turned out to be seriously entertaining and interesting in their own right. The other benefit the addition of this contest offers is that I'm no longer just posting and disappearing. I'm actively connecting and interacting and giving back to the community, in prizes, fun, and also creative inspiration (people get really creative with the prompt contests).

So when I look at Dtube now, after the past several months of vlogging and prompt contests, I think: it doesn't have to be YouTube in order to be fun. Let YouTube be YouTube. Dtube is something else, something that's going to continue to evolve, and it could end up becoming something very different. The wheels in my head start turning and I find myself compulsively thinking up ideas for interactive contests designed to bring more entertainment oriented posts to the platform.

The upshot is that, thought It's probably at least a few months out, at some point I'll be looking to partner with blockchain communities (Freewrite and Steem Nurse come to mind right off the bat) to start running a series of weekly contests on Dtube aimed at nurturing creative entertainment-oriented posts. At that point I'll likely set up a dedicated account and discord channel and start looking for whale sponsorship and also for feedback and help in evolving and fine tuning this initiative. If this sounds like something you might be interested in getting involved in, hmu on discord, @bennettitalia#1906.

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A 40% upvote when steem is 29 cents is still way less than a 10% upvote with $8 steem. I don't think the creators care what percentage they get... at least I don't. I like looking at the amount I am getting paid. Therefore, in my opinion, raising the value of steem is more important that keeping the authors happy with % numbers that don't mean anything to most people.

When I write a post, I never thought about my reward pool allocation. I looked at the dollar amount of my post. The dollar amount will always be influenced WAY more by the value of the token than the reward pool allocation (if we are talking about 10% one way or the other).

Let's get $8 steem back. Or, let's get it back to $2 anyway. That is (nearly) 8x gain which would provide far greater author rewards even if we slide the reward pool allocation down a smidge.

I am not saying that WP's or anything else is going to raise the value of the steem token, but the value of the steem token has a far greater influence on author rewards that the % allocation. These are just numbers and the most important number is the steem price.

So I do agree with most of what you said, I think that number 1 is the price of steem. How do we bring that up is the most important question.

Preach, friend! I feel like I just go in circles with the folks who think investors are the ones who give the chain value. I'm not MAD, just disappointed. Investors are great. Audiences are great! But they aren't "what drives the price of steem."

(Is this a direct response to @blocktrades Worker Proposal system being fully funded from the author rewards? Because that's where I'm seeing this conversation pop up again and again)

Ah! @theycallmedan this is a topic close to my heart and to take your analogy to another level: you cannot have beautiful, creamy scrambled eggs without breaking several. I know that the issue of quality is a perennial topic on the blockchain, and have weighed in on this in conversations with @quillfire and @blockurator on this issue more than once (and have now mentioned both twice in comments on this post).

I think your view is spot on and what gives the curators more apparent power is that the conent creators need the recognition. They (we) are not always good at self-promotion and yes, I do speak for myself. I put "it" out there and sometimes just leave it be.

So, in essence, I think it is a symbiotic - or should be - relationship. However, if that ethos (and yes, I think it's an ethos - of mutual respect) is not understood and respected (oh dear...too much repetition....) the what we have is the status quo.

I pretty much agree with this... I'm neither a developer nor a blockchainiac, mind you; my background is marketing and content creation. I've been trying to float this idea for a couple of years, but it seems to fall largely on deaf ears... everybody keep going on about SMTs, having awesome dApps and getting investors.

There's no doubt these all work together and there's synergy involved BUT making the social content aspect of Steem an "afterthought" the way it seems to be (including by Steemit, Inc.) just doesn't make sense. Over and over, we keep seeing that "people in general" don't really separate "Steem" from "Steemit." And — like it or not — the Steemit social front end is like a store window... it's the Steem blockchain's "public window on the world," like a store window. Why the hell wouldn't you put your energy into making your "front window" as dynamic and appealing as possible?

But hey, "I'll bite." Let's just say that what we need is "tons and tons of great dApps." Would you rather just offer a great place for people to develop those dApps, or would it be better to offer a place to develop those dApps that also happens to have a dynamic, thriving and built-in user base already in place?" That sounds a bit like being a shopping mall operator who only cares about having "great stores," but could care less whether there are any customers for those stores. Massive marketing fail....

IMHO, we have a lot of "building" to do around here. The "investor" model has already failed because investing was presented as a "current income" model rather than a "capital appreciation" model... hence we now have a bunch of bidbots that mostly just drain the reward pool or — at the very least — put eternal sales pressure on Steem because they attract a bunch of people (users AND investors) whose primary motivation is to sell for current income, rather than hold for long term gains. Another marketing fail.

I see our only real path out of the woods as getting somewhat back towards the social content model @dan had in the original White Paper and road map... create content, become a stake holder.

So you're quite right... absent the content creators, what exactly would the "investors" be investing in?

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@denmarkguy,

Excellent points, all.

The "investor" model has already failed because investing was presented as a "current income" model rather than a "capital appreciation" model...

Exactly. You can't have your cake and eat it too. Delegating to bidbots is more profitable than receiving Curation Awards. And so, in order to maximize Passive Income, fat wallets gravitate towards the former while ignoring (largely) the latter. In doing so, however, they destroy the very thing that would cause their Principal Investments to increase in value ... curation of Quality Content. Cutting off your nose to spite your face.

I wrote a lengthy comment elsewhere in these comments. I'd be interested in your feedback.

Whales: The people are the product. It's NOT the code.

Quill

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We seem to be in a minority in this view, somehow...(weird but, hey)

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@lucylin,

We are not the minority. Indeed, I suspect we represent the overwhelming consensus. The problem is that the Silent Majority remains true to its moniker ... Silent. Every time I write an article about "blockchain reform," I receive a dozen DM's from people afraid to be supportive in public. They're scared of pissing off fat wallets.

Courage is a rare commodity.

But I was a soldier and I can assure you, courage ... is contagious.

Keep talking.

Quill

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I've never stopped talking matey..That's why I'm so popular! lmao..

I receive a dozen DM's from people afraid to be supportive in public. They're scared of pissing off fat wallets.

ffs...

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You are so right, and this ends up closing a vicious circle, but then you see stake the size of this man here and think... Hey... someone that seems to have understood the key to this thing's success...

create content, become a stake holder.

I made a project for Hispanic driven that way, rewarding only those who tried to keep the most in and not bleeding out to exchanges, some blame me today their trust in me and the platform made them loose the proper exit timing (Hell I blame myself).

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in some ways, it's not chicken v. egg

Without content creators, Curators would be upvoting nothing.

If only more people saw it from this perspective....

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Where is the discord server where we all that see it from this perspective are meeting and joining forces ?
Whoever creates it... would have built the killer community!

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@nnnarvaez,

Excellent question. If you find one, would you please let me know.

Quill

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I haven't... I used to hang with the Rebels a while ago and we where convinced we could make a little difference, but didn't happen.

Something i have realized is that even thou many of us share the visoin of the goal, we differ on the way to get there...

For something like that to work there is only two ways: a benevolent tyrant or agreeing that each is right from what their perceive as their truth.

And in the end that is the right approach not a single one but a conjoint different one with the same goal in a collaborative way.

And we need to find a way to present all this issues in a positive way.

Positive hype about our blockchain... How it changes, how it learns from its mistakes.

Content is number one, I agree with you, but for a newcomer it's impossible to reward authors effectively, unless they purchase at least a minnow or a dolphin status, but why would they do it if they can read all the content they want. In the end content creators are rewarding content creators and that's it. A lots of creators are discouraged by this, since you have to invest a lot to get noticed.

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I think those that make great content don't need to invest. It isn't easy but where is it easy for content producers? Most people don't have the patience to keep producing great content, when they're getting nothing for it but that's how almost everyone starts. The Beatles made great content but it took them years to get noticed, they were turned down by many and didn't make money from their own work for a very long time. That was a long time ago but I don't think its much different today.

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You're right it's not easy, but my main concern is that readers don't get a say which creator will be on trending, so you have to dig deep to find good content which is not promoted by the big fishes. Sometimes you can find actifit reports upvoted tens of dollars worth. While good content is buried and never voted on. So there is a need to get the readers more involved.

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There's an incentive to find good content and upvote it early, for the curation rewards. I'm sure that can be improved.

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Right. If authors are not rewarded fairly, they might as well return to Facebook.

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true, or return to almost any other platform

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Well said @trincowski reward is something which holds authors in this platform. Without reward it's similar to Facebook. I agree with you.

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Info yang sangat menarik dan bagus untuk kita terap kan.

Major steemians are clueless especially the investors in steem and have them in the form of SP. In opinion also they are divided. In a down market for a long time these things are abvious. But I must say that when we talk about steem as a social community, we must emphasize on the active crowd regardless of steem price and that is still one of the gray area in steem since its beginning. This was not surfaced during the early days as at that time the sentiment around bitcoin was quite positive but as everything has changed now this area has been exposed. What would one do with huge SP if thre is no reader to your blog. The active crowd in this community is key else the foundation is very weak and not sustainable.

Thank you and Have a great day.

I guess what's not entirely clear to me regarding this Worker Proposal System is whether the author and/or curation rewards will be diverted all the time or only when there is a project that is approved for funding. If the latter, then all the rewards can stay as they are, and when the community votes to fund a certain project a certain amount in a certain timeframe, then those funds can be redirected from the author/curation rewards to the approved project. At all other times the rewards will stay untouched. As opposed to redirecting funds the entire time and letting them sit in a treasury, waiting for future projects to be funded.

This part isn't too clear to me or hasn't been fleshed out. What do you think?

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think that it would be hard to do, as changing allocation requires hardforking. not a programer so maybe i am wrong

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It depends on how the software is developed and the flexibility it allows.

I've long believed that content creators on the platform really don't receive the respect they should. Many of the investors, who usually have the larger stake, treat content like a net drain on the platform rather than it being an avenue to attract more value.

Yes, in a perfect world, the content would all be wonderful and only talented writers would write here but it's not and we have to take the good with the bad.

I love that I can build stake on the platform through use of my writing skills. I wont build it as fast or as much as if I bought in, but for me, it is skin in the game built with my own hands.

I'm hosting the next Witness Chat in The Ramble discord tomorrow at noon EST / 5pm UTC. With the Worker Proposal System currently pending, I suspect the topic of authors and rewards will end up being brought up. Would love to see you there.

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Very well said @theycallmedan. I totally agree!!

Here maybe a little bit for both
Especially when the creators need to be curators as well
Probably because the base is till small but things will change when there's mass adoption...

i have a feeling that i hang out with the wrong bunch. i see everyone is speaking about author as people ho just write posts get steem power down and sell everything. most of people i follow did not power down ever, and power up most of the steem. i thought that the point is to make the acc bigger so you can support people that follow you, and the other creators you like.

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I think a lot of the noise here on comments is misleading you.
Most of the people I hang out with do NOT power down, either.
Most create content, whether is is photographers, musicians, or authors. AND those content creators also consume content, too. They see this venue as a place to socially, interact with other content creators.

Agree as it is the first step of joining the ecosystem. The fact that one of the first things a new user should do is write a #introduceyourself post shows that the first step to establish your presence will tailor how your engage. Although many can join through alternatives, the reality is that being social is the foundation of our ecosystem.

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Also still learning about authors and curators...thanks for sharing

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Even shitposting is creating something.

Shitposters taking notes. 😁

There are ample of content creators and curators and both cannot exist without each other. From so many content creators why should my post be voted will become a big question and that will only depend on the quality of the content.

Great article....’also Mike risked more than just his face but his brain too 🧠 and also don’t forget Hal F. (RIP til he’s unfrozen).

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You can only mine the steem through creating contents, so authors are very important on the steem blockchain for now.

My toughts exactly; a social network without content is basically useless. Well written!

I think content creator are required in steem blockchain but curation is equally important to motivate creators to put more valuable content in platform. Its an ecosystem and all part of it are equally valuable and without of even one another is not successful.

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We need ourselves to make the compartments of the steem blockchain a wholesome.

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I post and do all my writing here as my main place. Has been at it for over a year+ now. Surprisingly I have never made it "big" :(

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i have a feeling that no one really made it big here 😀

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It is very disappointed to reduce author reward by 20%.

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And then you have emergent properties that come later like people betting on the outcome. Synergy: the whole is greater than the sum of its parts.

I couldn't agree more. Well said!

Thanks!

Authors needs to be rewarded fairly for them to be encourage to produce more quality content on this platform but I seem steem as a whole blockchain platform that is more than blogging but rather a place of creating more valuable apps that will draw more people into the blockchain

Hi Dan
This is physics, protons and electrons lol
I try daily to contribute on the creators side.
Cheers!

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Will this sentiment make it onto a short classic audio from @theycallmedan - I do enjoy the sound bytes: I think we are very much in the early days of the blockchain project and I'm just hoping that the collective parts of authors, curators and investors can capitalise upon the amazing opportunity: do we have first mover advantage?!