STEEM: Newbie No Nos When Commenting

in #steem6 years ago (edited)

I will start this off by saying that this is not an attack since all of us tend to do the same thing.

Nevertheless, there is a protocol on STEEM that is best followed.

One of the biggest things that newcomers need to learn is how to comment. This is something that few of us are aware of yet, when done right, can be extremely profitable.

Comments are meant to add to the post made by the author. This is where the term "quality" comes from. Naturally this is a subjective word. While quality might differ, there appears to be some agreement what non-quality is.

So here are a few No Nos When Commenting:

Lame, One Line Comments

You know the ones I am referring to. They look like this:

Great post
You are the best
Thank you, I learn a lot from you
Cryptocurrencies are going to explode
Follow me, I follow you (more on this later)

These do not add to the post whatsoever. In fact, they are common of commenting bots so the author (and others) will simply presume you are a using a bot intent on trying to scalp an upvote.

Do not do this.

Read the article, think up something thoughtful and post it. If you cannot do that, post nothing.

Spamming

Obviously is you are going around putting the same link in 100 different posts that goes to your website, that is spamming. We all know this.

However, on here, there is another form of spamming.

It is when one leaves a comment and then puts a link to an article he or she wrote. Do not do this. It is a total turn off. If I want to read what you wrote, I can click on your profile and check out your blog.

Of course, there are exceptions to this.

There are individuals I deal with who I will post a link in their articles to something I wrote or even something outside STEEM. In this situation, I have an ongoing interaction with that person and this is how I communicate. There are a couple of people who are in similar tokens as I am and I post information or new developments that I come across them.

Another exception is when asked. There are times someone will mention something to me in a comment about what he or she is going to write about and I tell them post the link in one of my latest posts and I will read it. Again, this is a way to communicate something that I already stated I was interested in reading.

Ask The Author's Opinion Of Your Blog

This is a subtle was of spamming. Instead of a direct link, you are asking them to check out your blog so they read your stuff. We all want that but, in my view, this is in equally poor taste. Again, if I want to check out your stuff, I can click through on your profile and get to your blog.

As for the giving my opinion, that is what the comment sections exist for. According to the stats @abh12345 pulls up each week for @fulltimegeek's SOG, I usually post between 100K-150K worth of comments each week. Thus, it is safe to say leaving a comment about what I think is not my main problem in life.

Similar to this is asking the opinion on a particular post. While it appears to not be spamming, it can easily come across that way.

Certainly, we all like feedback yet there is a proper way to go about it. To me, it all comes down to the relationship one has with another. Asking my opinion after a comment or two on my posts doesn't establish grounds for that. If, however, we chatted on steemit.chat or discord, then we are operating on another level.

Speaking of those two mediums, do not send a link to one of your posts on there. That is even in worse taste than doing it in the comment section (unless of course, you have a relationship with that person and he/she will approve).

Upvoting Your Comments And Nothing Else

Upvoting your comments is a slippery slope in general. However, I know many who upvote everything they do; people I respect. Nevertheless, they do not omit passing the votes around.

Personally I do not upvote my own comments. That said, if you are going to do it, do not skip upvoting the comments people make in reply to your comment (if it is something of quality that is). Also, never, ever, ever, upvote your comment and skip upvoting the post. That is simply rude. Along the same lines, do not give yourself a 100% upvote while giving the article a 3% one. This is just a way of showing people how little you care about anyone other than yourself.

If you are going to self vote your comments, just be sure to spread the wealth to others. Then nobody can complain.


While we are on the blockchain, which provides people with the forum of freedom, there are manners of behavior which will be beneficial to you. Certainly, nobody can force you to follow the suggestions I laid out here or stop you from doing the exact opposite. However, people have the choice also to shun the choices you make.

I can assure you, engaging in these No Nos will only get you ostracized, meaning you make very little money. STEEM is a system where our return depends upon the interest and actions of others. Doing things that upsets people is not going to make the SP in your account grow. So, unless you have a lot of fiat to buy STEEM with, I suggest you leave some of the behaviors out of your portfolio.

One final thought:

Never Ask Anyone To Follow You

If you want to be followed, post something that makes people want to follow you. It really is that simple.

Again, please do not feel attacked if you find you do some of these things. We all did them. The only reason I can write about them is because someone told me "you ought not do that".

We are all here to help each other.

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Thank you for this very informative post...I may have been guilty of leaving 1 -word comments, ( simply cuz I'm often short of time), but I will try to improve on that...

You certainly did with this comment at least.

Good job. LOL

Awesome! ;) lol

This is becoming an f... plague on Steemit. I've been flagging comments left and right because of this issue. If we all flag them, these bots and copy/paste commenters won't last long on this platform. Thanks for this wonderful post Task, I couldn't have spoken it better myself. I even changed my motto because of this. Hate those types of comments with a passion!

Yeah the comment bots seem to be growing number....it appears more of thees type of comments the last couple weeks.

What is your new motto?

I changed it to this: "CyptoEagle soars mighty. Follow me and get rich with knowledge and crypto. I punish spammers and only upvote meaningful comments."

It's on my channel page, I guess it's called the "About" section. Just reesteemed your post, I'll reesteem it every day if I have to!

LOL Thanks....I can write more so you dont bore the people who regularly visit your blog page.

Or at least change the title and repost it. 😀

i came up with this for this problem!
and i have been giving it out freely :-)
how many flags.jpg

i agree with your comments....

So you're telling me to create a bot that that calls out and flags these empty comments? On it boss!

Hey, i am glad to read your comment here, i often think that i am the only one who gives out flags from left to right... so now i feel better :-)
@cryptoeagle

Instead of flagging i believe it will be better to neglect. When neglected they will have no reason to make comments and they will leave after seeing no earning. I believe that the voting weight that is used for flagging can be better used for upvoting original comments and posts. This helps in rewarding those who are doing good work.

The problem is the spammers count on at least a small percentage of people rewarding them. It's like those Nigerian emails that never stop because there's always the 0.1 percent of dumb people who respond and keep them alive.

It's like those Nigerian emails that never stop because there's always the 0.1 percent of dumb people who respond and keep them alive.

What is wrong with the Nigerian emails?

Do you mean Prince Amukamoura, rightful heir to the throne, will not be sharing the $40M he has which he needed $2K to get it out of the country?

I keep checking my mailbox for the check...

By the way, I fixed it. I shook my phone thinking something was lose in it...when I did, I opened the app, turned the phone upside down, swiped the screen, and bam, my account value went up. I did this all day and the value went up like 15%.

I knew you were hiding that feature from me.

Prince Amukamoura owes me hours of my life deleting spam emails and explaining to family members in Cuba who first saw the internet in 2017 they are not getting any millions...

You see, I haven't even updated the app yet and it's already working wonders! haha It's so nice to see crypto back on bull mode! Steem is rocking it!

I think there is a bot that is checking for spam (repeated) comments. And oh boy I did every last one of these mistakes. Personally follow for follow is worst mistake I did. It flooded my profile so badly I am still cleaning it.

I was just asked this by someone we are mentoring @steemitfamily and I said aside from creating good quality post you need to engage other people.
Look for good people to follow that has the same niche or passions as you do. Engage them with meaningful conversation that will make them curious on what you write.
Worse case you just get ignored. Best case scenario you get an upvote and a follow.
I average about 17-25 unique comments in other people's post a day. Not to mention replying on the comments that I receive and I have started upvoting good comments.

This is a good way for you to keep engagement.

I have added this to our Tips section.

Thank you a million times for this post. I always try and leave meaningful comments because it is respectful of the time a person has taken to write a post or a comment and I also want people to leave meaningful comments for what I write. I think it is difficult for some people because they are not good at English, but for others it is only about commenting on as many posts as possible. I have received some comments that have nothing to do with my posts and know it is because of this last reason. People have to decide why they are here. If it is to provide something that can be helpful and share great stories pictures and other content, they will do well. If not, they will fall away when they don't get the attention. For the rest of us who want to do well. It takes a lot of work and attention. Thanks again for leading us in the right direction.

great post, lol. just kidding. this is mine and my wife @lynncoyle1 pet peeve actually. She actualy follows you also as I do. Your guidence on this site is awesome. Thank you my friend

Thank you...and my thoughts are with you both as you travel through this situation before coming out the other side.

This post has the innate potential to become hilariously funny when scrolling through the comments, looking for the described spam comments. Luckily we were not disappointed! 😂

What was really funny @atmosblack was when the post first went up this morning, the spam comments were the first to hit it....like 3 or 4 in the first minute....

great post
amazing post
I agree
Have a good summer
Will you sign my yearbook?

Comments can be a powerful tool. A great comment can land you on the radar of a popular Steemian. The goal in every comment should be to add value.

Hi. One of the issues with joining Steemit is that newbies like me bump our heads around not knowing what to do and if we are doing something right or wrong. Sometimes we get advice and sometimes we don't. If many of us can get good advice we can do better. For this reason that you so much for these comments. Although I do not do any of the things you mentioned. I could see myself doing several of them not knowing I was being discourteous to others. Any additional comments you can offer are helpful and I am following you. All the best.

You remind me of when I first got here. The first comment I got was a guy asking for upvote for upvote and follow for follow. I was like, "Man, I hope this isn't what it's like here." I declined his offer. Go me.

I get a lot of those too and trades for upvotes. But it all seems like it is not worth anything.

Ah yes.... the commenting. I have written two posts in the last couple of weeks on the very same topic. I know in the beginning, I, like many others didn't know what to do on steemit. So we started slowly with the comments. Sure I bet if you look back you can see where I may have say good information, thanks for sharing, etc, etc... But I soon learned, and honed in on my journalism background, and started with thought-filled comments, asking questions and even giving my own examples; all of which added to the main post and topic.

I still do; it's just now I tend to say more than normal.
While in the last two weeks there have been more than my fair share of outside distractions hindering my steemit life, I have started pulling away from the real life issues and drama and renewed my focus here.

Thank you for this post and for reiterating the importance of how the steemit blockchain and its comments need to be to take it to the next level. If everyone would take a moment and really see the long term effects of real comments versus (as I refer to them as) drive-bys.

P.S. follow me and I'll fol... yeah, I can't do it!!

TL:DR
JK
"drive-bys" love it

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