For those getting downvoted by dust
You might want to, but instead don't.
Don't give a fuck.
@krazzytrukker left a comment asking about the stream of downvotes he was getting on his posts and even without having a look, I knew what to expect. He has however taken it pretty personally and has decided to stop posting, so I decided to have a look at what the downvotes were.
They look like this
https://steemworld.org/@krazzytrukker
There are about 20 downvoters in that stream howver, none of them have over 15 SP, which is the standard "startup" delegation provided when getting an account straight through Steem. Combined, they have about 300 SP and since they are voting at 10%, it is the equivalent of getting a 100% downvote from a 300 SP account - which has a value of 0.002 cents.
As said,
Don't give a fuck.
And, while I have no idea why @krazzytrukker has attracted the attention of such a useless downvoting ring, he isn't alone.
https://steemd.com/@giuvre?page=1
Again,
Don't give a fuck.
On pretty much all content-based platforms like YouTube and Reddit, there is the ability to downvote and on Reddit for example, 10% of votes cast are negative - on Steem it is something like 1%.
After a quick look through, most of these accounts are made in the last month, all have one shitty post from a range of languages that look to be google translated. Likely just hoping for some kind of vote. Who knows, who cares...
Pretty much all look like this:
And haven't added any Steem to their account...
Don't give a fuck.
However, remember that while currently these accounts are getting 15 Steem Power as a startup so they can have bandwidth to transact on the blockchain, soon they will only be getting the Resource Credits that allow this. That means that they will have absolutely zero voting power other than "symbolic" as RCs hold no voting weight at all.
While it might not feel good to get downvoted, this is a stake based system and everyone can vote as they choose with impunity. However, there is essentially zero harm done by these kinds of accounts so, get used to it as if onboarding takes place through the applications with RCs, this might get much more common in the future.
In that future, downvoting gets quite normalized and opinion based as for most users it will not take anything away from the account itself as consumers might not have a great deal of voting power and rather use them to express preference. That means "staked voting" will be used for adding value to posts and fighting abuse of other stake, pretty much what most of it is used for now if considering the vests that are doing the downvoting.
Anyway, these "downvoting trails" that have essentially no control over anything other than emotions from downvoting should just be ignored completely. So...
Don't give a fuck.
But even if the downvotes are coming from larger accounts, just keep doing what you are doing, don't take it personally, and still remember that this is the internet so...
Don't give a fuck.
I hope it is clear enough what my suggestion is.
Taraz
[ a Steem original ]
Amen. Have noticed a bunch of these lately, possibly just bots?
Yeah, a "pointlessbot" network.
That is what I thought a hot or someone set up this trail. . I doubt you start immediately downvoting if you just join.
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I too get few down votes from these so called dust accounts, may be they are doing it intentionally to draw some attention, but who cares !!
Draw attention or feel like they have some power. Regardless, they are useless.
I don't give a fuck.
However I have 4 solutions for people who do. 1 to 3 require hardfork. 4 is a front end solution
1 no free downvotes unless 500 sp
2 no free downvotes unless 50 rep
3 no free downvotes unless active post or comment
4 hide dust downvotes and upvotes entirely worth less than 0.005sbd or 0.01steem, can view if you click details or change settings.
If it gets out of hand we can make something like dust bunny to help people get over their -0.001 or whatever it adds up to
Make downvotes cost far more RC.
This is another Hardfork necessary option, but I like it!
Oooh. This is interesting.
Option 5. Have their delegations pulled. I thought there was a list somewhere for removing networks who are trying abuse the faucet.
Won't matter for the new accounts to come as they will get RCs only
I thought they were supposed to stop giving out 20 SP or whatever it is to new accounts now that RC exists, but I guess pulling the delegations makes sense, although it would probably be a full-time job.
Maybe they can just have it automatic, if you are voting at less than 25% (something noobs with 20SP probably shouldn't be doing) or do a single downvote you lost it.
There are so many ways dust accounts selected. And why not cut there SP and RC delegation? Force the owner to buy steem in order to reactivate the account?
I think getting to tough on it immediately is not a problem. Cutting the SP delegation is a great idea. Also making Downvotes cost a lot more RC is also a good idea. Make it difficult for accounts with low SP to do this sort of thing. Right now it's too difficult to figure out who is doing it.
What would be the point of downvoting old posts? I have a dipshit whale down voting posts I made 3, 4, 5 months ago. What is the point of that?
No idea. Better than open posts?
Yes better. But what a waste of time and resources.
Totally Agree! Be yourself, do not plagiarize, do not rant over much, share upvotes and Enjoy this is Great place to be.
Liked Voted and Resteemed
People should have more fun doing as they please.
We should be alarmed as this is organised. Most of this accounts are free and fake accounts which are automatically created. How many accounts can one bot create in a day? Ten? Hundred ? Together with 15 SP for each account and some Steem for those shitty intro-posts which are funded too. So such a bot can make 150 SP or 1500 SP a day or even more together with 10 or 100 Steem and I have seen such bots accumulating and transferring power on steemd.com .
I USED to give a fuck about dusty downvotes, but some folks who give a fuck about how things REALLY fucking work explained to me, on my fucking post complaining about downvotes, what was going on (nuthin'), and I said, "Oh." Now, I DON'T give a fuck no more. (In other words, I fuckin' agree with you, although you might not give a fuck if I agree with you or not.) Cheers!
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lols, yeah, I read your comment but, the jury is out if I GAF or not.
I think through a little bit of understanding and background, the emotional response disappears from downvotes.
as a stake based system, @steem is the one then that is actually behind those down vote accounts. @steem is down voting all those people as the stake belongs to them, not to the person or account doing the down voting, @steem is the one doing the down voting through proxy. @steem could at any time remove the delegated SP to those accounts. Those accounts add nothing to the steem eco system, not even in returning over rewarded payouts to the reward pool. @steem is enabling the internal destruction of steem as a social interaction site. Most people have absolutely no problem with real accounts down voting them, they can return the favor, or have a conversation with those account holders. You can not hold a conversation with @steem or any of @steem's down vote patrol.
So instead of telling @krazzytrukker to not give a fk, perhaps a better place to resolve this issue would be to tell @steem to start giving a fk about the users of steem block chain. Those 15 delegated SP accounts are most likely external forces trying to show the users of their system how screwed-up the steem block chain is and see what happens when there is no central authority type to take control.
Where were all the call to tell people to not give a f**k about all the down votes from @berniesanders, or @haejin, or any of the other larger or mid sized down votes?
There has been lots of calls for flag wars to stop, Why all the previous calls to end the flag wars if the the above is true and should be accepted by one and all big and small.
These 15 SP accounts are @steem proxy down votes, because the owner of that account has not pulled the delegations. The delegations to new accounts is so they can interact and begin building their stake so they do not need to keep relying on the Stake from @steem. These 15 SP accounts have done nothing to build their ability to interact on the Steem Block Chain.
It makes me want to say "grow a pair", but having a mean tone to it, I'd go with the therapist advice of "maybe you should work on your emotional resilience", but sense this is internet, such advice I expect people only getting angry over.
Better not give a fuck.
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If not having been around Steem much, the lack of explanation can seem weird. The other thing is that I think he is using Partiko, which doesn't list the ups and downs like Steemit.com does so it seems worse than it is.
i really don't give a fk what your suggestion is :)
You get it.
it does add to the amount of voters you have on a given post. that's gotta be a positive
Always finding the positives Micheal! :D
More ways to justify his downvoting :D
Can you cover dust memos in your next post please?
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Do you mean the 0.001 ones? I would like there to be a much higher RC cost on sending memos as they don't really need to be sent often by normal people.
Yes and ones that are a bit higher than that too.
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😁
At work, except there is no work.
fken trolls hahaha, here have a vote
where did you guys go? positive you where here a minute ago lol
Silenced by a Lego man, I am in tears :((
I think on partiko it doesn't. I don't use partiko though.
It used to be that a DV removed one from the count, didn't it?
Meh. Who cares.
It’s called “Report” on Partiko.
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ok, thanks. Aren't Partiko devs Ded?
No idea. The app still works so I use it. Their witness has been a zombie for ages though. So many people voting for inactive witnesses still.
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