Update on Unexpected Voting Power Behavior

in #steem5 years ago (edited)

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Many users are experiencing an issue where voting power appears to drop dramatically upon first using the blockchain after HF20. We have diagnosed the cause for this and confirmed that the issue will resolve within 5 days and does not require a hardfork.

Only Temporary

This issue affects everyone equally (aside from those accounts which have not voted in the past 5 days) and once voting power regenerates over the next 5 days, this type of behavior will not present again. In addition, most accounts that have been active will return to their expected voting power equilibrium within one day. Large accounts that have been active, but only infrequently, will be impacted most significantly. Those accounts that haven’t voted in 5 days are not affected by this issue, but the more recent your last vote the more your voting power will be impacted.

Equal Impact

No one account is depriving another of their voting power or gaining an unfair advantage. During the implementation of the Resource Credit system, voting power was rescaled and no scaling factor was added to ensure a consistent user experience. This was an oversight on our part and for this we apologize. Again, this behavior is a one time issue that will resolve itself over the next 5 days.

This appears to be the only issue that has been brought to our attention that is due to consensus-level code and again is not an issue that will reappear.

Steem Blockchain Team


@clayop, one of top 20 Witnesses, is putting out frequent updates! Unlike others or Stinc...
The KR community is fully informed on the status of this “blackout”.

It’s in Korean but you can google translate easily.

We need more witnesses to be Steemian facing and active with updates like @clayop!!

Your input is priceless to see on the blockchain sir! as an investor let me work with you to make steemit great again! I have a couple projects I would be honored for you or any other whales that care about the future of Steemit would read one or two proposals and consider supporting in some way and show all the haters on Steemit you can help them all?

I also heard @ned said if witnesses did not implement HF20 even without testing SMT's are off as he cannot afford development of both or something to that effect.
I also noticed the recent withdrawal of millions of STEEM from Steemit.com.
I have also heard Ned owns an island and is worth 100's of millions yet cannot afford development? I hope these are rumors and things improve soon...
Ned fly me to your island so we can talk about the future of STEEM!
Your marketing is lacking to say the least.

how was this HF tested ? .... didnt you learn from last fails ?

I agree, it seems like there has got to be a way to test hard-forks and consensus changes more thoroughly before deploying them.

Here, let me help. I find it easier to learn with pictures.

They were blind to the foreseeables

Without doubt more testing was needed.

how in the heck do you have positive MANA?

I guess they just release it and let the users to test it

heard no testnet runs were done...

Great. Thanks!

I know you are busy with the backend stuff but could you care a bit to add a mana meter to the steemit.com UI?

steemd now has the man bar up and I think it's accurate.

it looks like they have one on steemworld.orgrc-mana.JPG

Steemd is also displaying the RCs bar... but damn, it really get consumed quickly with each comment...

I second that. I actually assumed this would be added to the UI. Really surprised that it's not. In order to improve the user experience, it is crucial that this get added somewhere where it's easy to find. Otherwise, all the talk of "gamifying" the experience with RCs goes right out the window.

Right! Still shocked that voting power was never added!

Both voting power and mana should be displayed in steemit... We get voting power and vote value in Busy so i dont see why not?...

Thanks to the new found complexity in additional jargon, I have no idea what the difference is between voting mana, voting power, and RCs are anymore... way to keep it simple.

For what i know, RCs is the amount of mana you can use to vote, post, redeem rewards or any interaction with the blockchain... Voting mana really doesnt exist, just voting power, although your RCs (mana) is consumed every time you vote also... The more steem power you have, you have more recourse credit (mana)... Its almost the same than before, just that no one cared about bandwidth because that rarely got consumed (just for very rare cases for users with very low steem power)... Now seems like mana get consumed very quick... we just have to wait to see how this develops...

Good explanation. A part I want to elaborate a bit about is this though:

The more steem power you have, you have more recourse credit (mana)... Its almost the same than before, just that no one cared about bandwidth because that rarely got consumed (just for very rare cases for users with very low steem power)

While having issues with the bandwidth was rare in the last few months, it used to be a huge issue. Back when Steem was $6, the activity on the blockchain was a lot higher, and pretty much everyone with less than 50 Steem Power could not properly use the blockchain at all. They could vote on a few things, make a few comments, and then they would have to wait.

This is also the reason why the system was changed to RCs, which could give people a more predictable measurement as to what they could do on the blockchain, instead of the seemingly random bandwidth system.

But I - with 700 free SP and 30% RC and billions of mana- could not even do a delegation transaction today to help a minnow. I need a price list of each action soon!

Yeah, it was pretty bad, but it should be a bit better by now. You can also see a list of all the actions you can performm over at http://steem.supply/@goldrooster. I don't think a price list would be really effective, since the cost of the actions will change all the time.

@steem-plus did with their plugin! mana.png

I think a lot of us are having trouble even making comments. It's going to be a quiet week on the Steem blockchain, lol. But hey, I totally accept this price if it will bring the much needed changes promised and pave the way for Communities and SMT's.

Waited 3 days to upvote this feel :p

Well it happens...lets just wait.

Appreciate the update. Time to take a Steemit break for a few days...

Also for the next HF release, limit the number of post anyone can post per day ..max or 3 or something!!! there needs to be some sanity here!!!!!

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