RE: Are you ready for a 20% decrease in Author Rewards?
You know, if you want to create drama, kindly start with real facts.
@blocktrades has made a proposal to Steemit Inc about a Worker Proposal System -- that is a fact
Steemit Inc has reached a handshake agreement with @blocktrades to implement this WPS and to fund it via a reduction in the Author Rewards rate -- That is a fact
Not bad, you got two details correct. Then you go downhill from there.
the @steemalliance is NOT a foundation. The Working Group volunteering their time within the @steemalliance has been tasked with creating a system to receive proposals from the community for how a future foundation would look and operate.
@blocktrades is in no way involved with the Steem Alliance work.
the Steem Alliance is then tasked to create a voting system through which the community will be able to choose the proposal they feel best represents the needs of the community
A future foundation is likely to receive seed funding from Steemit Inc. What a future foundations focus and actions will consist of will be directed by the proposal that gains support from the community.
You may well have a valid argument on how the WPS is going to be funded but you really kill your credibility when you can't get the basic facts correct.
I was by no means trying to create drama but rather voice my concerns and see what the community thinks about it.
I'm sure I'm not the only one here with the same misconception about the poorly explained SteemAlliance which is referenced to as either a foundation or a future foundation in every post I read about it.
While it may not be a foundation right now, is it wrong to assume it will be one in the future? If so, is everyone who stated that SA is a foundation/future foundation delusional or what?
Not only does your average Steemian have no clue about what SA is about but the more concerning aspect is that very few of them were involved in the voting process, which makes no freakin' sense whatsoever. We could have had a stake-weighted poll in form of a trending post or something but no, we had to take it to discord....
That's exactly what WP is supposed to do.
How does this not make SteemAlliance's task to create a voting system completely redundant?
Or am I missing out on something again?
you are missing out on all the update posts since this first one you reference.
Clear updates are on the Steem Alliance's account and are pinned to the top of people's FEED on steemit, by Steemit.
there is plenty of notice on voting, on meetings, on the process. In fact, I noticed you missed again another meeting where more information was discussed. Follow Steemitalliance and read more.
almost all of what you are writing is flat out wrong information.
You are losing me here @bluefinstudios. The only reason I cited that post was the simple fact it referred to SA as a foundation. There are plenty other posts referring to SA as a foundation out there but this was the first one that came up in my search.
You said it's going to be a foundation in the future, which is ok. I care not if it's one now or if it will become one in two months or a year. Not a single fuck was given by myself here.
The only thing I care about is the simple question both of you failed to answer which I will kindly (because you weren't rude) ask again.
we are done talking. Once you became an ass in how you spoke to other members of Steemit Commmunity, you lost the ability to be treated as an equal.
After you apologize for being a misogynist, we can talk over facts.
You're missing out on plenty since it appears your sum total of understanding is the original post that was put out without bothering to follow the posts the group has taken a lot of time and effort to prepare in an effort to improve communication on something that is literally being constructed from the ground up.
Good thing you aren't wanting to create drama through spreading FUD..
I've never seen anything delivered fully formed. Especially something new and never done before.
At NO point was there ever a post put out connecting the proposed Worker Proposal System to the Steem Alliance and a NO point has there been any posts connecting @blocktrades with the Steem Alliance but you managed to attempt to connect both for dramatic effect.
So, once again, let me be very very clear
-- The Worker Proposal System DOES NOT have anything to do with the Steem Alliance.
-- The Steem Alliance IS NOT being funded by anything coming from the rewards pool.
-- @blocktrades IS NOT part of the Working Group
Clear enough explanation for you?
Dear @shadowspub, the question I asked is not the one you answered in such an unnecessarily rude manner which makes me think about at what point of your menstrual cycle or menopause are you currently.
Would you please calm your tits? Thank you!
So, I'll ask again. Why do SA elected members have to create a voting system that is supposed to solve the same exact problem the WPS solves? Is stake-based voting not a good enough option or what?
Once again, not to be perceived incorrectly again, I'm not saying they have anything to do with each other but I'm rather asking you: "How does WPS not make what SA elected members are trying to do redundant?
Is that clear enough for you or should I hire a lawyer to put it to words in a more easily understandable fashion and mail you a letter?
well well... it seems that this little outburst of yours has laid bare the problem here.
seems your genetics have you developmentally trapped in the neanderthal era resulting in an intellectual capacity which renders you incapable of distinguishing between the truth and the FUD you create to seek attention.
My condolences for too much being expected of you.
Damn, I would have responded with a "FO and go back to your cave" type of response if I was in your place.
But I wouldn't dare say that in public anywhere, people could think that I am too direct for my own good.
You did well.
Cheers.
@runicar
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REALLY?
This is how you chose to argue your point?
Your behavior is very unbecoming and says a lot about your character.
Everyone is entitled to express their opinion.
You might want to read up on how to express yours in a civil way so your words will be taken seriously.
As of right now you have lost all my respect. Not that it really matters in the end. You had your say and showed your true colors. You are the one that has to live with that.
"Calm your tits?"
Okay--so why don't you buy some tightie whities that actually fit, because evidently the ones you're wearing have your nuts in a bind. I've heard that can lead to all kinds of problems, like infertility and impotence. Oh wait...I think now we have some insight into your problem....
If you could stop wanking long enough for some blood to reach your brain and maybe read blocktrades posts about his project and then read the posts from the SteemAlliance workgroup... Many of your questions will be answered.
What an interesting thread to wake up to.
Jeeeez, now this escalated quickly! From trying to voice my mind about what might be causing @shadowspub lack of clear judgment necessary to answer a couple simple questions in a meaningful way rather than resorting to a passive-aggressive tantrum, to being called sexist and now having a full fleet of Voldemort women punching out all sorts of highly creative insults on m expense. Wow! I'm impressed.
Talk about double standards.... Or maybe we shouldn't tap into that, not to be considered sexist, oh boy!
This is more than entertaining, carry on!
Wait, what? Did I just become a troll? Because I find these comments of yours quite amusing. Hmmm.... Expressing valid concerns vs hollow, rage-fuelled insults on an expense of someone they have no clue about. Ah, it seems that I'm not the troll here after all. Sheesh!
It's funny how pointing out the simple fact that such cycles which greatly affect a women's hormonal balance, short or long term, could quite possibly be detrimental to their reasoning and could easily explain for @shadowspub lack of ability to answer a couple very simple and blunt questions in response to her explanation of the SA, is considered sexist.
But what's even funnier about this situation, is how a hoard of hyenas ganged up and jumped on the thread to try to insult me with their well thought of strings of letters, without a single one of them or anyone else for that matter, answering the questions asked.
Nevertheless, I sincerely apologize if my point of view about my conception of basic biology came out as sexist and even more sorry if I hurt your feelings @shadowspub. Hope you can find it in your heart to forgive my poor choice of words.
Now to give everyone a personal reply so they don't feel left out:
@snook you are right, it really does not matter.
@rhondak your comment made me chuckle, sincerely. Very creative, one up!
@jackmiller I have addressed your concerns about sexism somewhere above. Nothing else to say to you other than you too could have answered my q about redundancy.
@whatsup another highly creative hyena, could argue that your comment is even funnier than @rhondak but they both come in pretty close - claps slowly - congratz!
@guiltyparties you are the only person who I truly have respect for in this thread and you are right, I'm not like that and would never talk like that to a lady. I had no cool left to allow @shadowspub to push me around while not answering my questions (the most frustrating part being the arrogant ending of her rage-fueled frenzy) and only trying to portray me as the Evil Drama Queen with the single intention of creating FUD while in fact I was just trying to have a discussion with the community about a possible reduction in author rewards.
Well to be perfectly honest, in my humble opinion, of course without offending anyone who thinks differently from my point of view, but also by looking into this matter in a different perspective and without being condemning of one's view's and by trying to make it objectified, and by considering each and every one's valid opinion, I honestly believe that I completely forgot what I was going to say.
Valid concerns are always appreciated, but one must actually attempt to inform themselves of the facts before attacking others for "not explaining it well enough."
How did it become sexist? The fact that you even ask that makes me wonder if you are even capable of comprehending clear facts even if they were presented to you.. but since I am a glutton for punishment and the current chair of the Steem Alliance group.. I will try my best to explain.. even though it seems many have already tried.
How is Blocktrades Worker Proposal going to work? No idea, as I am not a part of it.
How with the foundation be funded? - "through donations, fundraising and possibly a profit based model." Which structure that is chosen by the community might change this up a bit, but we will have to wait and see on that.
How will the worker proposal system and the foundation the Steem alliance is helping to build work together? - No idea as we don't have a foundation yet, or a worker proposal system.
So it seems most of your questions are really directed at the worker proposal system but I wanted to try to clear up any lingering confusion about the Steem Alliance and the community foundation it is trying to help build.
If you have any specifically about the foundation, I will do my best to answer.. but when you act like an ass and state "facts" while not actually even attempting to look for actual facts.. its a bit hard to have an adult conversation, but I am not entirely sure you wanted to have one in the first place.
So I guess this comment is more for users who come across this blog and are concerned as there are no facts in sight. Hopefully the above will help with that.
As far as worrying or minding about what you think is all a thing about mind over matter.
I no longer mind, because you no longer matter.
OUT.
lol....
@runicar
If you can please read up on what all is happening, prior to jumping to conclusions and making accusations, it would help.
I would also recommend that you speak to people with a little more respect and not resort to outright sexist comments.
Furthermore to end what I have to say here, the thread so far although not in the chirpiest of tones was not rude in any way until you wrote:
If people disagree with you and state facts that contradict what you initially thought was the case, that is not "rude" it is simply telling it as it is.
Cheers.
That's not how you talk to a lady. Come on man, you're a good guy, you know better.
Na hrvatski cu opet i malo falivat gramatku da je teze prevest jer znam dosta ljudi iz te grupe tako da ih ne uvridin.
Taj alliance ti je ka neka "community" grupa di se glasalo za ljude koji ce donosit neke odluke o necemu. 1 account/1glas ..
O cemu ce se donosit odluke nezna se. Ali o "necemu."
Ja sam prica sa ljudima koji su to zapoceli i moj je stav bio da je to glupost i trosenje vrimena ali eto Ned se pojavio pa se to pokrenilo nekako.
Uvik se ponavlja ista blesava mantra: "The community needs to come together,"
(Ako si gledao GITAK: "Volim te riči šta lipo zvuče, a ništa ne znače")
Sad je izabrana ta neka radna skupina i ta njihova okupljanja izgledaju, majke mi, ko sjednica vlade.
Stvar je u tome sta u toj grupi ima par kvalitetnih ljudi i cini mi se da je cili taj steem alliance napravljen, i Ned im obecao par tisuca dolara, da se ta ekipa, pardon my French, skine Nedu i whejlovima sa kurca.
Sad su oni u toj grupici i rade replike jedni drugima, fino vode raspravice, imaju fini poslovnik, vode zapisnik.. itd.
Izabrali su cak i Jandrokovica. haha. (ozbiljno)
Stvar je u tome sta bez stake holdera nemos nikakvu znacajnu odluku donit i alliance ce izgubit vaznost vjerovatno kroz mjesec dva jer malog covika zaboli za neke blockchain politicare ako oni sami nemogu nesto zaradit.
Oni ocekuju da cemo se mi vrtit oko njih dok oni skupljaju poene i osjecaju se vazno. Pokusa sam bit "prijatelj" sa tim ljudima ali to ti je sve naklapanje o nicemu oko nicega cili jebeni dan. Dobri su jedino za stvaranje grupa i pricanju o stvaranju novih.
Ali eto.. Zele dobro i benigni su vecinom.
Ovo sto Blocktrades radi nema stvarno nikakve veze sa tim.
Zvuci sumljivo u najmanju ruku ali ako ista naprave bolji su od neda koji sa stincom, 50 miliona dolara kesa i 14 ljudi iza sebe nije napravio apsolutno nista. Odnosno napravio je nesto sto bi utopian devovi napravili besplatno u roku od par mjeseci.
Bas me zanima sta ce to tocno raditi i kako/koliko novaca ce prikupiti.
Pardon my French... hahhahah urlam