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RE: Why Does Steem Lag in a Bull Market for Cryptocurrencies?

in #steem6 years ago

Great writeup.

Feels to be a sticky one. Of course, it's tough to state concrete answers.

Indeed, one point you've mentioned is that most investors aren't particularly concerned with a platform that rewards bloggers.

Another I've come across: the understanding/misunderstanding of Steem's inflationary nature. I've read an outright, "Steem is horseshit. Who is going to invest in an inflationary currency." While there might be more to it than just that, it could indeed be a potential factor that might turn some off - and require better explanation to validate the model against such preconceptions.

Another factor: it's quite niche. And the general types that may be attracted to it are more those interested in earning rewards blogging than investing and utilizing the token for participation with curation. Most investors with the type of funds that could drive Steem price up probably aren't too interested in learning the ins-and-outs of this niche game and setting up their curation systems to turn the investment into a passive income. And measured against other tokens that can earn greater returns faster - what, then, becomes the incentive of holding a utility token they won't utilize?

Sad to say, another factor may be reputation. Despite Dan's projects being superior technically in regards to performance, it's appeared that the projects haven't totally gotten taken seriously in some circles. It was weird meeting Joe Lubin last fall, being introduced as a top writer on Steemit to have him give me a weird look and ask, "isn't that some kind of scam?" Hopefully, as EOS takes off and gains institutional acceptance, this may shift and some attention may come back to BTS and Steem with a fresh perspective free of such prejudice.

It is kind of a weird question, actually. There are so many shitcoins that have exploded in value comparably, that have nowhere near the solidity of foundation that's been being built here. But then again, this still is a new platform, it is an experiment, and is still under development. There have been speedbumps and learning curves, and overall, the platform itself might just not be ready for scaling to the masses - and perhaps price reflects that.

It is likely, however, that in the coming years as more money and attention flows into the crypto space, a proportionate share will flow into Steem. And, the big boom could just be a matter of the right partnerships or audience. As someone (I can't remember who) wrote about recently - adoption in China with a Chinese mirror site could drastically change the situation - as potentially could even one or two major influences or key players stumbling across Steem, seeing its propsects, and giving it the right kind of publicity...

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Many people are really stupid and uninformed... Bitcoin was called a scam as well in the beginning... People just do not care about reading a 45 page whitepaper in order to understand how this can work. So they think that this is too good to be true and just stay with the market leader, even though with him they have to wait 3 days for a confirmation.

I think this is really the main problem... The median Facebook users is stupid as fuck... sorry to say, but it is like this... a billion stupid as fuck users we are trying to convince to get here.. only the top 10000 Facebook users are bright enough to read the Steem Whitepaper and come here...

Bitcoin was already a challenge... Many people needing 8 years to understand that easy technology... they might need 40 Years to understand concepts like Steem Power, Steem Dollars etc...

Also the majority of the Facebook users are financially illiterate and do not have a clue what they have to do in live...

Sorry for the Facebook-user rant... but as said.. the intelligent Facebook users are already here... sorry to say that there are not more of them...

So if we already have all the intelligent FB users, does that mean the top end has already been reached and there is no where to grow?

That's not on them, that's on us. Or, more specifically, on steemit. It ought to make things user-friendly. Or stupid-friendly, as you may perhaps prefer to phrase it. And that's true for all cryptos, and the biggest barrier for widespread adoption.

Every single person I recommended this site to, I had to hold their hand through the account setup process.

That's not a good thing.

You certainly raised a valid point in saying that the intelligent Facebook users are here already. I have posted several times encouraging and inviting others to venture over to Steemit and I get that dull, glazed over look as if I'm speaking a foreign language. I suppose they don't want to make any sort of income for wasting time and posting shit.

There are so many shitcoins that have exploded in value comparably, that have nowhere near the solidity of foundation that's been being built here.

Bit of a strange paradox, isn't it? But speculation is often far more exciting than facts. There are a bunch of coins out there going to the moon on nothing more than the word "blockchain" was in their White Paper 20 times.

The footnote I wanted to kick in there is that this is not specific to cryptos... it's an investment problem. Well... that's actually not quite true. It's a lottery problem... a lot of so-called "investors" are actually just gamblers hoping to ride something to the moon in the short run. "Investing" is more about buying and holding for the long term... but the same thing happens in the stock market-- a whole group of people chasing rumors around, hoping to catch the next "20-bagger" rather than just putting their money in something stable that quietly doubles in value every year.

Most folks chasing rumors in stock market, or in cryptos, will eventually lose their money.

Trying to explain STEEM price as just being "unlucky" in the lottery of crypto prices, does disservice to the USD 550 Billion already in.

So that USD 550 Billion was just randomly assigned, and STEEM got unlucky?

NOPE !!

There are better explanations

If you have examples of these stable investment opportunities that quietly double in value every year, please do share!

Serious writers still look at this place as if it were a scam. Steem has an image problem and it's due to not seriously investing in Communication and marketing strategists. There's a price to just "letting people spread the message". I think a more professional approach is becoming necessary, but this could change with projects like Utopian and other more non-scammy projects getting noticed by the mainstream world that is decent.

Steem has an image problem and it's due to not seriously investing in Communication and marketing strategists

You are absolutely right.

The best way to see this is to look at youtube comments.

Most comments from newbies on steemit videos " it's a scam, pyramid scheme,etc..."

Now look at appics's video below ( which is exactly the same concept as steemit) but with much better marketing and read the comments it's night and day...

Yup - it's nicely explained, and seems to have mass-appeal.... and nothing about 'getting rich'...and they don't even mention the speed of the Steem blockchain.

Bit on the long side for a promo if you ask me though.

Are they running this on their own blockchain? Last I heard, this was supposed to be based on an SMT. If that's the case, then this video is a bunch of BS...since none of the monetary aspects of it have even been created.

Watching this video, the things they mention sound more like a wishlist. I'd be surprised if they'll be able to do 1/10 of what they're claiming. And since I'm familiar with the work of the people behind this, I'm not even impressed with the claims.

I guess we'll see what actually happens.

Are they running this on their own blockchain?

I think they are waiting for SMT's to come out, there has been a few projects like this announcing they would be using SMT's. Vice.org is also one that comes to mind.

Watching this video, the things they mention sound more like a wishlist. I'd be surprised if they'll be able to do 1/10 of what they're claiming.

They want to build a site just like steemit where people upvote each others content. Nothing that they claim seem unrealistic to me. SMT's will make projects like appics very easy to build.

My point is that marketing/branding is super important and I hate to say but steemit got it all wrong. They keep pushing this "money" narrative which increases the perception that it's a scam. Also the overall design/branding is poor and old, bad logo, color ( as many have pointed out) and the site is lacking a lot of basic functionalities like private messaging..steemit is not ready for the masses

My point is that marketing/branding is super important and I hate to say but steemit got it all wrong. They keep pushing this "money" narrative which increases the perception that it's a scam.

Yep. Everyone sees this as a problem, but the people inside the halls of Steemit, Inc. seem to not care. Very rarely do you see them touting the blockchain or the two-token system (that isn't exactly being managed properly anyway), which are actually the strongest selling points.

And instead of talking about that and not promoting so much of the money-making aspect of it, they're doubling down their focus on the money by pushing SMTs...which haven't even been created yet and will require a hard fork that has not been approved yet - or even proposed as a viable candidate. Let's also not forget what I mentioned in this post about the SEC and their cracking down on ICOs...which Ned and Co. keep promoting as one of the best use cases for SMTs.

Steemit, Inc. gets it all wrong most of the time. Good thing that they aren't actually the blockchain developers and managers. And since they're not - and since they're not doing what they said they'd do - they should burn that massive stake they have and get out of the way. I'm fairly certain that their stake and their ineptitude are what's holding a lot of investment and progress back.

I think steemit lacks foresight and vision. Their main selling point which is 'earn money on social media' is going to be the most boring thing when every website uses this tech.
They are not taking advantage of the fact that they were the first app to use this tech.
Their slogan could have been " steemit, your entry to the new economy" or "the gates to the digital world" or " the genesis of a new world" basically something more general and professional sounding that highlights the fact that steemit is where it all started, but instead they chose to use "money talks" which is going to be a moot selling point a year from now when rewarding users is the default on the internet.
There are also some basic rules in marketing that steemit is not respecting, for example a short slogan. I mean I don't even know what steemit slogan is, they don't even have a proper landing page...logo must be easily recognizable, steemit logo is like a circle..

they're doubling down their focus on the money by pushing SMTs

I think SMT's are a good thing, it will allows steemians to not care so much about steemit anymore...Personnally I think steemit is not going to be around few years from now if SMT's turns out to be succesfull and if they stay on the same track.

they should burn that massive stake they have

Agree with this. There is clearly mismanagement of this money, they are hording it instead of spending on brand/design/marketing. They could do amazing things for steemit with their millions if they wanted to..

flagging EOS is not helping investor confidence either. This points to something much more problematic.

Their main selling point which is 'earn money on social media' is going to be the most boring thing when every website uses this tech.

With SMTs etc., isn't there supposed to also be a widget of sorts that any website can add to their page to reward users with steem (but they'll be able to name the currency whichever way they want)?

Granted, why go with steem when they can invent their own currency.

But, smaller websites won't have the money to invest in doing that, whereas the steem widget will be plug-and-play, so getting rewarded in steem with be the default way to do it on the internet, I guess, so steem will have the upper hand, initially at least.

Consider also that steem is already big-ish, whereas a new coin by another site will be initially small. Users, being human, will want to be rewarded with more, not less, money!

They will also want to cash out easily. Steem is already in many exchanges. There are sites like bitwala that issue prepaid visa cards that you can top up with steem and use like a regular visa card to purchase stuff in the real world. Will the new coins of X website be able to do that at the very outset?

Ineptitude is a good root cause explanation

Steemit doesn't have to be ready for the masses for steem to be ready for the masses. Others can build sites too. Look at busy.org for instance. Much better interface IMO.

The branding thing Steemit might be acceptable, at least for me, but the logo design and the color flavor is very understatement of what the network truly represents. I am not even a Photoshop expert but I can pretty much capable of a better looking logo within 24 hours using only Canva free account.

They have to push money as a theme, it is why they are here, imo.
Crapitalusts using anarchist rhetoric to fool the masses, because everybody wants peace on earth, except the wealthy who make more money with wars.
Stinc, et al, said free speech would be rewarded, but then only rewarded speech that fit their narative.
Lies do not appeal to honest folks and liars build walls without doors to keep them out.
We called all this in '16, but nobody listens.
Too busy dreaming of how to rape the reward pool, again.
#m2c

Hey @snowflake, did you listen to that add?

Appics is going to run on the Steem blockchain, this gonna increase Steem price 10x when news gets out.

Watch it on youtube and expend the replies to see my reply comments the real people and Appics shills alike on youtube, a little minnow like me can already make a difference.

Thanks for sharing! Up-Voted!

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