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RE: Steemit Is Ruled By A Communist Party - Flags Wars Look Worse To Investors Than The Rampant Abuse They Claim To "Fight"

in #steem7 years ago

I've seen some very mild commentaries get flagged in the crossfire, even posts that I totally did not see it coming for... So it will be interesting to see how this develops on your post. Hope you don't get hit, but kind of expect you might be (as you are too like you wrote above). The proof will be in the pudding, I guess.

I am starting to wonder why we need a flag/downvote option at all. Isn't the whole purpose of upvoting to be a 'filter' for good content to float to the top? Why then do we also need to downvote content to the bottom? Shouldn't they naturally appear there? This goes for spam as well of course.

It does take away any way to deal with abuse... but, if the cure is just as worse as the illness then maybe it's no cure at all. A different approach may be needed. Since Steemit operates on DPoS and we have Witnesses, I propose that we alter the system in such a way to increase the powers of Witnesses to include moderation abilities. If they abuse or screw up, we vote them out of business. In the meantime, they could be our 'elected government' to keep some level of order on the platform. It sounds a lot like our current political system, I know, but I feel like DPoS is that anyway so why not take one step further as well?

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"I've seen some very mild commentaries get flagged in the crossfire, even posts that I totally did not see it coming for..."

Yes, often from very diplomatic and friendly posters with no axe to grind. Pure bollocks, as they might say across the pond.

I've given up any hope of mediating the dispute.

I like the idea of no downvotes. Crap comments and posts disappear.

If a post starts conversation, regardless if I agree with the OP, I usually give that post an upvote. For the sparking of discussion. Or you can walk away from a post if you disagree with it.

What drew me Steemit in the first place was that it wasn't "fair".

I agree with this, and I think Dan did too. The removal of the exponential voting power curve made this difficult to implement without widespread abuse.

Same here.. I pretty much upvote everybody with whom I interact on Steemit. It's my way of saying 'Hey, thanks for giving me your attention!' I guess? :)

And yes, stuff that you disagree with.. just walk the other way? it's what I do.. no sense in picking a fight

I almost wrote an entire post entitled "the value of upvoting opposition viewpoints during debate". I never got around to it before I gave up the battle around here.

Excellent commentary. I wrote yesterday a similar comment with respect to why down flagging is even necessary. It seems like a lethal weapon in the hands of those whose DNA was build to control other people while at the same time making it a cover while they get some kind of advantage. This is really not so different than the kind of people who are drawn to the power of the government and in being an elected official.

If we can't use something like steemit and all of its potential for good to create something of value without all of this down flagging crap, then there is no hope for this platform.

"It seems like a lethal weapon in the hands of those whose DNA was build to control other people"

Such as certain socialist politicians that may or may not have been screwed out of a recent political nomination...

^^

Thanks!
I am not sure if Steem always had flagging, or if this feature was introduced later to combat abuse. However I've always felt that it contradicts the whole 'We're leaving Youtube because of censorship' argument that's going around here. There's arguably more censorship and demonetization on Steemit than on Youtube.

"There's arguably more censorship and demonetization on Steemit than on Youtube."

Funny how around here demonetization and hiding your content aren't considered "censorship" by a large portion of the "in-crowd".

Thanks for always being one of the best commenters.

As a novice author, I'm sad to hear that the idea of decentralization does not work in STEEMIT (

p.s. I noticed that you have not written in your blog for a long time.

Yeah, it's really funny how that works! But not much to do about it.. half-truths and public opinion is more important than real truths, on Steemit :)

Thanks for your compliment on my comments, I really appreciate it! It's good to know that I stand out a little bit from the other posters out there :)

P.S. check out my profile! I know you've been away, or not as active on here lately and you may have missed it but I vastly improved my blog with branding, layout, etc.! Kind of proud of my blog at the moment! It's gaining some traction finally! :)

I second the idea of no downvote. Its being abused by childish whales

I would like to see this option tried as well.

You might be interested to learn that the exponential voting curve was designed to render downvotes not necessary for controlling abuse, which tends to be the main argument for keeping them around these days.

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