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RE: Share Your Opinion: Reaching A Consensus on Subsidizing Activities for Newcomers

in #steem6 years ago

Finally getting around to this.

I'm wondering if this is where our 'communities/tribes' come into play. I'm not sure on the economic/technical mechanics of how this could be accomplished, but it would make sense that the communities can be used to help the small accounts that are part of them.

Perhaps if we are talking about temporary delegations.... maybe they can be given to communities with the express intention to then be placed onto accounts within the community.

This would also encourage some engagement, so the more engaged one is (with the help of such delegations), they can build up their own SP (hence RC) to be have the delegation removed and passed on to a new account.

People engage when they feel part of something. Just feeling part of something as large as 'Steem' as a whole is too nebulous. Being part of a smaller group of people who are active outside of the platform (such as in chat servers or with real-life meetups), is a lot more tangible and do-able. The admins and moderators etc can identify who deserves the delegations thus.

This begs certain questions....

  • how much delegation to each community? how do you determine that? active users?
  • how much delegation to a small account?
  • do you delegate to an account that has made an investment (purchased Steem)?
  • when do you remove the delegation?
  • how much engagement is expected before removing delegation for 'inactivity'? Or even inappropriate activity (ie., spam or shitposts)?
  • do the communities 'fundraise' to do this themselves? Or does it come from Steemit Inc?
  • what do you do if an account is in multiple communities and receiving delegation from them all?

I think delegation of some form is one answer... but I wonder if we also shouldn't be encouraging users to invest into Steem, by purchasing token and using that to power up. Perhaps we can look at ways to help people who lack the fiat liquidity to buy into Steem. This raises a whole lotta different issues and questions, but I think its worth examining and having conversations around. Could communities put together a crowdfund (use Foundation, for example) to help someone with no money to raise enough fiat to purchase 50 Steem?

That are my thoughts. This is a great time to have these conversations instead of being a nay-sayer and making all sorts of conspiratorial claims. Steemit Inc have opened the forum, so let's have the conversations and find the solutions.

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but it would make sense that the communities can be used to help the small accounts that are part of them.

This is a good point. If the allotments to complete newbies are insufficient, it would surely provide an impetus for them to join communities and within communities, as you say, they would likely find delegations that would allow them to act in order to make bonds and Steem which would allow them to grow their account. (That is awfully complicated tho for an online social media site!)

Being part of a smaller group of people who are active outside of the platform (such as in chat servers or with real-life meetups), is a lot more tangible and do-able.

Totally agreed!!

I think as far as the needed delegation in the beginning (at this moment of writing) is less than 60 SP. That's not very much. I'm not sure if Stinc would even think about delegating SP to smaller communities (like @naturalmedicine) so that we could delegate to newbies that we vet. That said, there are larger accounts within Nat Med to fulfill that need. I think if someone gets over the amount of SP to "normally interact" (and here again, we'd have to define this), then the delegation gets taken away.

I think it is difficult to as a new user to invest-- that is, before they have any positive experiences. I for one have earned all of my Steem and I'm not in a place to invest and likely wouldn't invest in a social media site (esp one I hadn't tested/had a good experience on yet.)

Thank you for chiming in! You raise a lot of good questions and i hope others will take some time and read your points and comment if they feel so inclined :)

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