1 - Stand down from your hostile takeover and remove those fake witnesses.
2 - Retract all your Twitter insults calling us hackers, we're community elected witnesses.
3- Stop spreading lies and misinformation on Twitter, it's only hurting your reputation. The whole world is watching you.
3 - You dragged your friends at the exchanges into this. It's not our job to fix their mess with shorter powerdowns. You compensate them.
5 - You didn't do your due diligence when Ned sold you. Your problem, he should compensate you, not us.
6 - Educate yourself and learn more about our community and blockchain mechanics. Your lack of understanding and disregard to your community is making things worse.

Meditate, reflect and do those things, then we'll talk.

I DO NOT WANT your vote because that stake you bought was NOT MEANT TO VOTE.
I DO NOT WANT the exchanges vote because they were NOT MEANT TO VOTE.

I think this should be saved so the community will not look bad. It's a blockchain and anything edited stays here forever :

What an idiot this guy (child) is, it is on the blockchain forever fool, lmao! #steemISNOTtron #savesteem #SteemHostileTakeOver #SteemNotSteemit #SteemitIsDeadLongLiveSteem #wheresoursteem

You forgot to answer #11 hahahaha

I'll let others do the fucking.

ROFL to that gif!

:) Good One!

Since you are the top comment (at the time of writing this comment), I'm adding a link to the history of the original post for anyone to see what the comments reacted to.

Coincidentally using your service.

We have got more attention with our "We Dont Accept Tron Anymore" Ad than any other ad we have run for SteemVPN.

if item 1 is done , I am sure 50% of problems will be solved.

Actions speak louder than words

Justin talk to the witnesses and ask what can you expect in return of item 1?

you're not a pirate drakos? no way! XD
Well I posted my opinion down there I'm just a mere content creator though, I recast my votes yesterday, still 2 to go. But I hope it is ready as a statement that this is not the way and parts need to talk.
hope this all pass and we can all grow. Who knows he may even like this place :) if bothering to know us, we're a sassy eclectic tribe, flaws and all.

LoL, hostile take over? sure, after a hostile freezing of assets.. How can you justify one and not the other?? Oh, thats right, cuz your bias! Stop circle jerking your witness friends and grow up.. Steemit witnesses pre-emptively striked first, they lost pathetically.. now your making demands when you have nothing! LoL...

The fact that you say "steemit witnesses" shows how uninformed you are.

Steemit is not a blockchain.

It has no witnesses.

The point is that cooler heads need to prevail here. Anyone writing on Steem, wants Steem to thrive. I for one hope the finger pointing can stop (from both sides) and we can figure this out.

LMAO, the fact that you are calling me out on a typo shows me how pathetic and bias you are!! Wanna lay out any real facts to this comment or just be a fucking prick?

Funny that was the only thing you read. A typo.
I see bias all over this chain, and if people are not ready to reach an agreement to make things work, we're all fucked.

@moderndayhippie is right. Witnesses have always been centralized on here. back then, it didn't matter how many people voted. Some of the best witnesses were never at the top. Just a group of friends voted in by 2 people freedom/pumpkin.

It's an outcry now because Sun is doing the same thing.

I'm in no way justifying what he did, but have we all completely lost our minds on here? When has retaliating hostility with hostility ever worked?

Hi @lukestokes

That is simply game of words. i cant remember how often did I make mistake saying steemit instead of steem and the other way around.

one doesnt exist without the other.

And also @moderndayhippie had a good point. Soft fork was first low blow and shouldn't ever happened.

We pre-emptively acted to prevent something like this, then it happened, point proven. His plan was to dump and exit, or haven't you heard?

Oh, I must of missed that memo... So you know for a fact what his plan was? You have insider information? Can you please reference this material and tell me where you got it from?

Oh yeah, and great job on stopping him from doing exactly this! ;)

So you're telling me that because the witnesses made a malicious pre-emptive strike on speculation, period. Then Sun retaliated, period. We don't know if one wouldve happened without the other.. So how does that make you "right" on knowing his actions for Steemit? DO YOU REALIZE HOW STUPID YOU SOUND? LoL..

I have watched every podcast, read every tweet and kept close watch on all of this... Just cuz your bias doesn't mean your right ;)

god you are thick. freezing that money was the only proper play. he was testing out his coup on tron right after he bought steemit. freezing the accounts wasnt an attack and everything would be fine right now if he talked to the witnesses before centalizing the chain.

you done got fooled by the biggest scammer in the space. in ten years youll feel like a fool for defending him. every decentralized community will banish people like justin sun in the future. cutthroat capitalism has no place here.

Dear @edicted

god you are thick. freezing that money was the only proper play.

I respect you, but are you saying that since witnesses and group of people around them assumed that this solution is the only solution - then those who disagree need to be insulted?

I voted on witnesses, but I have no trust that they will change. It's so sad and obvious that they do not care and never did about "small users" and communities on steem blockchain. And it's sad to see that anyone who disagree is considered and threated as an enemy.

every decentralized community will banish people like justin sun in the future. cutthroat capitalism has no place here.

and yet, we do not have decentralized community. It's just group of powerful people who are part of one party, which is absolutely rulling this blockchain. And whoever oppose them -is being destroyed or silenced. Sad but true.

Yours, Piotr

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Bro, thank you for explaining that! I am so tired of trying to explain my shit to bias steemians.

I honestly hate the witnesses just as much as i hate the tron buyout. However, instead of being bias I just try to look at it from each side and then make a decision. No one seems to remember how the bidbots (the witnesses owned) nearly destroying steemit/steem before the fork. They definitely don't have our best interest at heart.

Thanks again for your support. You deserve a !BEER ;) Take care friend.

that's actually something we can agree on. I've stated multiple times any witness who developed a bidbot is a leech.

The problem with hating on the current witnesses is that there aren't really any other devs that are bringing a ton of value and deserve those spots more.

I shouldn't be insulting, I'm just mad AF that so many misinformed people are spreading their misinformation and coming to completely bogus conclusions. No one cared that much about this situation until the exchanges attacked us. Once the exchanges attacked us everybody cared. Most of the people lambasting the witnesses started at the attack and worked there way backwards looking for someone to blame. They completely ignore the events that led up to 0.22.2, which is absolutely absurd.

Steem is a gold mine. There is a ton of money to be made here, for everyone. The witnesses aren't stopping anyone from making money. It's just that the gold is laced in solid rock and extracting it takes a lot of work and development. Once this place has more development you'll see how many jobs it spawns for the community.

I'm Thick? LMAO, i don't even know what that means, but it sounds as stupid as your reasoning... Hahahaha..

I didn't get fooled by anyone.. I hate both sides equally and just want witnesses that really care about the community, not just getting rich off of scamming everyone else on steemit/steem blockchain.

I mean seriously bro, how can you not see how the top 20 witnesses have been fucking everyone on this platform for years?? (think bidbots, ect) How could you miss this?? Apparently you are the only getting fooled here.. LoLz...

You're really not mad at me, it's called transference, its ok bro, I still love ya ;) Why don't you put your aggression towards something that matters, not towards other steemians?? Just a thought.. I wish you the best. Take care..

If we actually had real programmers bringing real value to the network they'd be upvoted to the top witness spot immediately. We don't have that yet. Get over it.

I agree bro.. IF we had REAL programmers.. Seriously, we are on the same side you just dont realize it.. i have no issues with u.. i hate the shitty fake ass witnesses that have done nothing but rape this beautiful platform and i think their recent actions prove that they are self serving assholes.

i think steem could be the most powerful blockchain around but everyone is more concerned with raping the community to enrich themselves.. thats why im mad.. i fucking hate this whole tron thing, i really do.. i just like seeing the witnesses who fucked us for so long get a taste of their own medicine.. maybe that makes me a fucking prick, but i guess im ok with that cuz im tired of getting fucked by the same people who are suppose to be "on our side".......

Acted for yourselves to protect your witness positions, without telling the community about it.

With the way that witnesses/steemit inc meeting went, I don't think he had any motive to vote in witnesses. He did it because he wanted to protect his stake. That fact is as clear as day.

Also, some of you have zero negotiating skill and have no business being in such a meeting.

Sun wasn't going to dump steem. He's a businessman, he'd want his steem to be profitable and he'd sell them for profits.

Acted for yourselves to protect your witness positions, without telling the community about it.

Is this why 95% of the witnesses adopted the soft fork 0.22.2, why the biggest takeholders endorsed it, and why the community has been rallying to vote for us to restore governance?

Sun wasn't going to dump steem.

He literally said he wanted to make money and exit, that's a pump and dump if you don't know how to read between the lines.

You do know how to select words to make someone else look bad...
Steemit inc basically highlighted things they'd like to do for the community, yet everyone conveniently left that out.

As far as I'm concerned, when he said he was here to make a profit and then leave, he wasn't talking about dumping at all. That was his poor English getting in the way.

You chose to ignore everything else he said, and settled for the ones that sat well with you.

and why the community has been rallying to vote for us to restore governance?

As far as we're concerned, the community is rallying to support you because we don't support what Justin did by taking over the chain. Which should have never happened if you knee-jerkers didn't freeze his stake for your selfish reason in the first place.

I think your approach is harsh and cold, but I agree with the general premise you are asserting.

In a nut shell, Sun bought steemit inc, and yes that did include the ninja stake. Like it or lump it, thats his, and however ned operated, or whatever hand shake deal he had is not applicable to Sun.

If we wanted that stake to be unable to vote, we should have codified that into reality, not trusted the key holder.

In the end, I hope the witnesses see that Sun wants this to succeed too. Help him, help Steem.

My response is pretty shitty, you're right there!! I hate being this way but I have been nothing but berated for the last week so I have lost all of my "niceness".. Sorry friend.. I'm just beat down at this point..

It wasn't a hostile freezing of assets. It was a pre-emptive enforcing of previously arranged agreements with Steemit, when Justin bought Steemit, he was bound by the agreements of Steemit.

OMG, you are so brilliant! How could I ever fight this dumb ass remark?? LoLz..

Please send me these references that everyone keeps quoting about, cuz I can't find them! There were some "promises" by @ned, that is in no way, shape, or form of a binding contract! But you are a lawyer that knows so much right? So please please please tell me all about this "promise" law, cuz apparently I missed that while I was in law school!.. So I would love to hear your expertise on this situation.. Lmao.. Until then, FUCK OFF!

Sarcasm followed by hostile and foul language, no point in trying to respond reasonably with someone who clearly just wants to be "right" and has no interest in an actual discussion. There is zero need to be so rude, have a great day!

I find it convenient that you want to back out of this conversation because you have no real proof of @neds promises or this "promise law" you brought up. Blame it on me for being rude or whatever you helps you sleep at night, I really don't care.

To set the record straight I honestly don't give a fuck about being "right" or "wrong", I don't know you and your opinion means absolutely nothing to me. But you can tell yourself whatever makes you happy..

I just want people to actually use their brains and see what is really going on here.. we have two terrible factions fighting over steem/steemit and the top witnesses (who have raped us for years and got us into this mess with a pre-emptive strike) now want us to join "their side"... I choose to not support either side, they are both wrong, it's really that simple.. You can agree or disagree, I don't care. After this, there are no winners here.

Write back, don't write back, whatever suits you is fine.. Take care.

You started with sarcasm, mocking and ended with telling me to "f#ck off", why would I take anything you say seriously?

I actually agree with you @moderndayhippie, that soft fork was nothing more than provocation (first low blow within this conflict).

Thanks @crypto.piotr, It's nice to know other steemians can see things for what they are.. I have been getting downvoted relentlessly since I started speaking out against the witnesses/whales.. It honestly is so bad that I am going to power down and cash out because I can't be on a platform that lies so bad about being "decentralized" while obviously being a totalian regime. It's basically go with the status quo or be destroyed by them.. LoL.. Not quite the "decentralization" I was looking for.. It's really sad considering I have been on this platform for over 2.5 years.. But at least I can see things for how they really are now :/ Take care my friend. I wish you the best of luck!

Are you willing to support Steemit, Inc. in accomplishing their job to increase our token value

You mean the company that all of the developers who built Steem quit from, because they couldn't stand working for you?

Why would any intelligent person support that empty shell?

Nice job mismanaging it into the ground within just a few short weeks.

ROFL. Good luck.

Nice job mismanaging it into the ground within just a few short weeks.

He's definitely better than @ned in that regards.

Yes you could call that "more efficient".

All the developers not able to step away from Beta?
For 3 years?

What a developers...

I think that Sun's account on Steemit has been either hacked or someone else from Steemit Inc has access to it and wrote this bullshit.
It's hard to believe that he would write such vulagar and ignorant bullshit after the live talk with witnesses just over a day ago. This post appears like he didn't listen to them and all he said there was bullshit, and he has not made an effort to explore and understand further how STEEM blockchain really works.

It's hard to believe that he would write such vulagar and ignorant bullshit

Check your hero worship. I can confirm from very reliable sources that he posted it himself.

This post appears like he didn't listen to them and all he said there was bullshit, and he has not made an effort to explore and understand further how STEEM blockchain really works.

^ This

I have never worshipped this twat, obviously. Neither have I ever liked and supported anything about this guy (which you can see by the upvoting actions taken by SC to support anyone who is against him).
I was already told that it is him.
I had not known his history of behavior, only his conduct during recent conversation with witnesses which seemed more less stable.
So I suspected a hack as it appeared like a complete retard wrote it.
So conclusion is: He is cognitively deficient and emotionally unstable.
I said the same to Ned in his ridiculous script-reading Discord chat that he opened 2 days ago.

Well said. Sorry for the misinterpretation.

As a so call business man, is this the language and attitude you normally use to conduct business correspondence? Did your mentor not teach you any manners? Drop your ego and attitude and you might gain some real friends instead of those losers on wechat

I think you're responding to the wrong thing.

The problem of working on mobile and an active post

manners??? did you listen to how the steemit witnesses talked to him in the most recent podcast? It was pathetic! They have zero tact, zero manners and were whiney little bitches cuz they lost the fight. Maybe you should listen to that before you make assertions about him being disrespectful.. This was all the top witnesses fault for pre-emptively striking and you wanna talk about manners?? LMAO..

I thought that for the most part, their manners were fine.

Well you have obviously never been in a business meeting where shit needs to get accomplished.. Thats ok tho, most people havent been.. ;)

LOL. Obviously, you've never been in a business meeting where multiple sides have opposing viewpoints. Contentious business meetings happen all the time and often lead to very productive outcomes...eventually.

LoL.. Damn Moe, you are brilliant! 😉 whybwould i ever argue with a moron genius like u? You obviously know EVERYTHING! 😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂👍😂🤣😂🤣🤣😂🤣😂🤣

Take it easy there, buddy. We're just having a conversation. I treat you in the same manner you treat me.

Yes, the above post by Justin is a true masterpiece of strategy, tact and wisdom.

I am Justin Sun and I bought 70 million STEEM with my hard earned money.

You brought Steemit Inc.
The trust that was put into it's previous owner to secure the community's pre-mine is not transferable.

Hard-earned VC and ICO money, oh how this man slaved

Poor little steemy...

You have a strange logic.
So, there is a pool right?

a) To sell it
b) To save it until forever

If the answer is b)

  • why was it ever produced
  • why wasn't it hard-locked
  • why wasn't it burned
  • or redistributed

Take your time...

The trust? If you can trust him, then he won't convert the trust to cash

So the "not transferable" part is only...let's say a "gentlemen agreement" on trust?
Or is it a clause in a contract, to be hold accountable for?

Hard earned washing dishes or something?

I like this proposal by @youarethewhale:

Proposal: Reward witnesses victory vote with STEEM Airdrop!

My victory proposal:

In case we defeat Steemit Inc. (@justinsunsteemit) attempt to hijack the community,
witnesses should Hard Fork Steemit Inc.'s STEEM holdings.
As a victory reward, an equivalent amount of STEEM should we airdroped (equal amounts of STEEM Power per account)
to all Steemians who actively voted to take the community back to normal.




There is NO WAY you will ever exert the kind of control over STEEM that you have over TRON.

Not a single person here will bow down to you.

There is only 1 thing you can do if you want to make your investment a lucrative one. Listen to what the witnesses have to say. If you drop your ego and accept our terms you WILL GET YOUR MONEY BACK, YOU WILL GAIN COMMUNITY SUPPORT AND YOU WILL BOOST YOUR INVESTMENT. Remove your sock puppet accounts! If you do so we can talk

Not a single person here will bow down to you.

One comes to mind...


Because we are the masters of the universe, buahahahaha

You have 0 technical knowledge how steem code works so your questions are inaprioprate and inadequate because you don't understand what you ask for.

For example you dont understand how disastrous and exploitable 3 days powerdown could be on technical and economy level.

You lost steemit devs, who have this knowledge.

Good luck trying to tell anybody what to do here.

You have 0 technical knowledge how steem code works

It's so difficult that there are literally more than 1000 other chains :D

I'm not a witness, but I would like to stop the war so that we can move forward. We all lose unless we all take a step back. We don't need further escalation, we need an agreement asap

  1. I believe in the sanctity of private property.

  2. Many Witnesses consider 7 days as acceptable, this is probably the best possible chance for a joint agreement, so yes, 7 days.

  3. We need downvotes to balance this blockchain. Downvotes should be able to be removed from communities with SMTs, but not from the main chain.

  4. Yes.

  5. I'm willing to keep a good relationship with prestigious exchanges.

  6. I'm willing to protect the rights of the community members.

  7. I'am willing to support Steemit, Inc.

  8. I'am willing to increase STEEM token value.

  9. I'am willing to welcome new investors.

  10. I'am willing to always stick to the truth.

  11. I welcome Justin Sun to this community.


Your post was downvoted for offensive language.
Never mind your points, you have obvious emotional and anger management issues.

  1. Are you willing to keep a good relationship with prestigious exchanges and increase our STEEM token value or do you just want to fuck them?
    8.Are you willing to increase STEEM token value that benefits the whole community or do you only care about your own interest and don’t give a fuck about the real community?
    9.Are you willing to welcome new investors in the future and include everyone into our community or do you just want to fuck those new investors, freeze their investment and kick them out?
    11.Do you like Justin Sun or you just want to fuck him?

You use the work F*CK in 4 of your 11 points. This language is unbecoming of a community leader.

Please calm down take some anger management and speak to the community you are trying to buy out when you learn some manners.

Here I thought I used vulgarity a lot when annoyed at someone.

Well then, I certainly wouldn't want to make you angry or annoied. Have a warm glass of milk and a nap next time you get upset to avoid using profanity.

Don't tell me what the fuck to do you little coin skeptic piece of shit!

Don't tell me what the
Fuck to do you little coin
Skeptic piece of shit!

                 - acidyo

I'm a bot. I detect haiku.

I'm on a roll.

Here I thought I used
Vulgarity a lot when
Annoyed at someone.

                 - acidyo

I'm a bot. I detect haiku.

And here's @haikubot with the perfect timing!

Yeesh. Should I go censor my response now?

It's quite unbecoming of a business professional. Naughy.
Censorship is up to you. I cannot edit and censor your posts until Justin gives me permission to be the official morality and social cohension enforcement officer.

I used to deal with a lot of disgruntled employees. When you're in a leadership role, one of the best ways to get through to someone is to show them you're not perfect. It helps them relax instead of viewing you as some kind of idol standing high on a pedestal. A few f-bombs, when used calmly, and a no bullshit attitude often puts the disgruntled employee at ease. Sometimes they'll laugh, and some of the angry emotions they were experiencing dissipates. Then you can get down to brass tacks and talk to these people as equals. They'll open up more instead of making things worse.

Personally, I don't look down on people when they choose to speak their own language. But hey, I was only joking with my response to you. We don't need to fight about this shit. We're far too cool for that.

I just felt like taking the moral highground. Im not Justins manager, but if Inwas I would tell him to take a cold shower and a nap.

Maybe later I'll get higher than Justin and consider his offer no. 11. There is a k-pop song by a band called Twice with the lyrics "you have two choices....yes or yes." It is sung by people more attractive than justin.

Moral highground. You know what dude? I want this community to settle these matters. I'm not going start acting like a troll. I want to say I wouldn't even fuck him with your dick, but is this the right time and place for jokes? ;)

I think we all hope for a positive settlement. I don't think there will be much in terms of morals or ethics left. If those are qualities you look for in witnesses good luck moving forward. Perhaps 20 proxy witnesses will be right as then there is only 1 soul to manage.

Hmm, this kind of thinking may best be reserved for after the dust settles. Or is this an oppertunity to work out age old issues on Steem.

There is never an inappropriate place for human on the Internet. That's what Al Gore invented it for after all.

There were be a beneficial mutual agreement soon. That's my prediction. Win win. But not the bullshit kind of win win we've been hearing lately. A real win win.

Additionally, this post should have the #NSFW tag.

Good call, but I don't look at those posts.

Your post was downvoted for offensive language.

Go to safe space, snowflake :D

Ok. Found it. proceeds to think about Justin I'm losing it. Hold on. nsfw activity Alright done.

Dear Users from Korea,

I think this post is aimed mostly at you as it is in line with some of the ideas that you would like to see, like no downvotes.

Now, I totally see why some of you would like to have a single person in charge - in most cases this is far more effective type or management. Also Sun is mostly know for having money and I'm sure that a profitable return from your STEEM investment is what you would finally want to see.

Yet, just please do a quick research about Tron:
Do you see any Tron dapps here?
So let's look further:
That's... sad. Only few generic gambling apps with very low number of users (bots?).

Tron is an empty, centralized blockchain managed by one person. No one uses it, no one wants to use it, no one wants to build on it. Do you want STEEM to meet the same fate?

Sun will eventually run out of money. I know, he's great in making noise about himself but that's pretty much it.

As for STEEM - it's gonna take time for crypto industry to realize how much potential STEEM has thanks to it's greatest value - us, the community. With Justin in charge this will be lost.

I totally agree that STEEM needs a viable economic model (ads, financial services, gaming?) but sadly, none of that can be provides by Justin.

PS. Tried to set @steem.dao as beneficiary but the comment didn't go trough with this setting :(

Thanks @cardboard for nicely provide useful informations: as always, you're very polite!

!BEER !giphy many+thanks

giphy is supported by witness untersatz!

This is another bribe, plain and simple.
You're pandering to the Korean community.

Aside from copy and pasting some of the Korean community's requests you're not saying anything constructive in this post. Nor does it seem that you have a plan on a way forward.

If you really care about "the community" you should stop talking and start listening. That's where real communication begins.

Good job spotting this one!

Setting up ultimatums will just make things worst, break the community and make everyone losers, you the most.

Seat down and talk with a limited number of community representatives. A win win solution can be found.

Also this post is quite immature from you side @justinsunsteemit

Put your emotions in place.

Yep only 29 ... I guess he had a rich parents

When I saw this, I thought you were coming with a nice proposal to gather our communities.

But now you are pushing your own agenda and not caring about what we have built on #STEEM !

How can you be so oblivious to see that the value of Steem is its community !

And we do not want a 3 days power down or anything else listed.

Sorry but I believe this situation might worsen.




Thankyou for posting, Justin. The value of this community goes where the community does.
If we have to hardfork, then we will; and almost everyone will move to the new chain.
Many of us meet in person to buy/sell, and in time the strength of this community would mean new exchange listings.
The old witnesses did what they did to avoid this hardfork, for your sake.
Not theirs, not mine, yours.
My stake would go to the new chain, their stake, their witness positions, their followers, all moving over to the new chain. The only person left behind, holding a worthless coin would be you. They didn't want that. I don't want that.
When they froze your stake, they knew the clock was ticking. Many of us would vote for timcliff, blockbrothers, etc (witnesses opposing the fork) if they failed to actively pursue a reasonable solution that would maintain and increase the value of your investment, because we don't want anyone to regret investing in the chain we love.
If you want to profit, trust us; work with us.
The world is watching this drama unfold. Let's show them what we're capable of.

Won't work

too reasonable


This is just ridiculous.

To be honest my long reply was overkill because this is correct.

and just when people in last nights MSP waves were talking about how to give him an out and find a compromise, lol pretty sure this post is 2 or 10 steps back

I just exceeded my daily allowance of salt lol

Holy shitballs

Lol well we got hit with our first case of Corona today so fuckit who cares about steem or anything anymore, get me some seeds and let me live in isolation im out bitches

Justin Sun,

when you purchased Steemit, Inc and their ~70 million SP the very first thing you did was to announce to world that you are going to dismantle the Steem blockchain and move everything and everyone over to Tron.

Do you seriously think that was a good trust building move? Did you have any idea whatsoever what you bought into?

If I had been in your position, I would've taken some time to take stock of the community and the other major stakeholders on Steem - before purchasing the company in the first place.

I don't think bribery will get you very far. Neither will violence. You are not the PRC and we are not your Hong Kong. If you burn this house down, we'll set up shop elsewhere without you.

All that said, I think there still could be a mutually profitable way out of this.

  1. Let's hire the developers who quit to do one more job: finish testing and fixing SMTs. Roll the SMT protocol out.

  2. You use your influence and connections to market the SMT protocol to websites that can benefit from tokenizing their user experience.

  3. Market the shit out of the ecosystem.

  4. When the STEEM price goes up, you sell your stake at a very good profit. You are a businessman. We all like money.

  5. We let bygones be bygones and part in good terms.

What do you think?

Justing :

Can't compute

Too Sensible

Need my way or highway ...incoming tweet storm

Hey with my hard earned posts I generated thousands of STEEM tokens before you showed up and just bought them. Don't fuck this platform up, we love Steemit because it is decentralized and fairly un censorable.

Work on on-boarding new users and stop fighting with the users who have been on this platform through the good times and the down times here.

it is decentralized and fairly un censorable.

Sure, a rookie has 20 power, strong members 1000-10000 and top dogs have millions
So decentralized :D

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That's obviously a tough question to answer !!!

  1. Are you willing to remove the down-voting policy of STEEM blockchain?

This really sends home the message of your alignment w spammers, scammers, plagiarists and other forms of token manipulators.

If you dislike negative curation, why didn't buy a token like WhaleShares? Oh, I forgot... Because that token doesn't have meaningful value to be exploited...

Whereas Steem does and much of that can be attributed to negative curation / moderation activities (such as our group at @steemflagrewards) that would be impossible without the downvote feature. We help minimize downward pressure on token value by engaging these manipulators which is often a thankless task. Under your leadership, I have little faith these activities will resume in the capacity they ought. This post solidifies that in my mind.

Indeed, it is a feature which you readily express intent to discard perhaps because you disagree w some instances of it's use.

Every heard the expression "Don't throw the baby out w the bathwater". That's precisely what you are doing. Not wise for your investment to be perfectly frank.

@justinsunsteemit - I think your accounts been hacked, by someone quite sweary.

Might be :p

Either that or he hasn't slept for 5 days. This doesn't sound like the product of a rational financial brain.

True. Not sure it was working properly before either tho :D

Lol.. I was about to say the same. Was never a fan of Justin, but I did not expect him to write so poorly and vulgar

Lol, that's exactly what I asked him



This is how you make peace, Justin, with fighting words? Why delete your words, if you stand by them --- that's what gas lighting dictators do?!

Show more humility, man, and respect for the rich and diverse community you’ve ‘partnered’ with.

We are not here to be bought and sold, or lied to or bullied.

We are willing to walk through fire to protect the community we created through hard work and love.


Justin Sun talking about "our community" makes zero sense since he has and never will be a part of this community.


That really does say it all and speaks to me about the sincerity.

Did you have a chance to read the original post? It’s much less diplomatic.

Why yes I did, I happened to be present just as he posted it. Immediately knew this would be a very entertaining day in steem land.

LOL I can see this ending badly for you!


Are you willing to remove the down-voting policy of STEEM blockchain?

Total madness. Let everyone publish plagiarism, hate speech, illegal content, and the only community response will be "ok, it's his right." Pool rape? "Ok, that's his right." Welcome to the world's most dumpster blockchain. Thank you for such a vision of the future.

I want a decentralized community and consensus witnesses.

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As a so call business man, is this the language and attitude you normally use to conduct business correspondence? Did your mentor not teach you any manners? Drop your ego and attitude and you might gain some real friends instead of those losers on wechat

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If you don't understand what is happening around you, read the below to understand it.

  1. You have been cheated by @ned. Obviously he is sitting somewhere and counting the money he got from you. Go and grab it back.
  2. You have a good reputation among your followers, don't spoil it with continuous lies.
  3. Not a good idea to remove the downvote policy of the chain. If it was bad, it would have not got implemented.
  4. Before buying something, I would strongly recommend knowing before you pay and purchase. You would have bought 70 million steem but that doesn't mean that you can buy the entire community and rule them.
  5. You should reduce the number of F words you use in an announcement post. That will not make you look nice or get you what you want. Learn to be polite when you are talking in public.
  6. You should have a basic understanding about this chain and the consequences of reducing the power down period to 3 days. That gives me a 2 times chance to rape the reward pool. Not good for the chain at all.

Final note, everything in this world cannot be bought with money and control. You have to understand that.

The only solution that I can give you right now is to give Steemit Inc back to @ned and get your money back and get out of Steem Community. This community is not for you.

Well said without swearing at him :)

Well said without swearing at him :)

words are cheap, show me the code of 22.5
the most uptodate release should be 22.1, and our witnesses have communicated to us clear enough what changed with 22.2.
We trust those witnesses, and the ones running 22.5 are completely unknown to the community.

  1. your "toxic consensus" is also called decentralization. if consensus is not your thing maybe stop being on the blockchain.

  2. Powering down should not be shortned, and in the Witness meeting the witnesses have already told you what issues the short powering down period can do. you can find a copy of the video of your conversation on 3speak.

  3. downvoting is a part of the proof of brain consensus, to forexample prevent people from profiting from identity fraud and hate speech.

  4. have you heard of steem-engine?

  5. ye but if these exchanges help you attack our blockchain then fuck them. perhaps its better if we anchor steem to stellar and screw those exchanges.

  6. destroy you? do you have masochistic tendencies? pervert.... its also unhealthy to hate someone just cuz you disagree with them. seriosly please get some counceling.

  7. steem!=steemit

  8. how about you start to cooperate and work with the community and not against it. we will remain a separate blockchain with our own witnesses we trust period.

  9. we told you the stake you "bought" is owned by the community. ned had no right to sell you this stake. you cannot sell what you dont own. your legal battle should be with ned. leave us out of this.

  10. spreading rumors? sounds like the doctor who discovered Cov19? he was spreading rumors of the existance of this new virus and the CCP was asking him to stop his illegal activity. he died.

  11. this post right now makes me want to fuck him. he wants it his way or no way, without regard of other investors. this is very selfish of him.


You keep making these mistakes over and over. Just shows your lack of respect/care for Steem, the community, and decentralization overall. You have demonstrated lack of knowledge and integrity.

This situation can easily be resolved if you stop acting in a hostile manner and keep damaging your own reputation.

I would suggest to hire an adviser from within the Steem community who is knowledgeable, competent, and connected. This advisor would guide you through this drama and help you achieve a win-win resolution. It is not that complicated.

Clearly, you and your advisors have no clue about Steem, the community, and blockchain technology overall. Otherwise you would not have made all these mistakes.

Good luck!

P.S. If you are willing to buy witnesses, at least make an offer they can’t refuse. lol.

He had @andrarchy, but he's gone now due to @justinsunsteemit's bullheaded actions and unwillingness to listen.

I think all the parties should calm down, sit to the table and negotiate a minimal consensus. To continue our struggle means to enlarge losses on both sides.

It must be hard to realize this, but @ned sold you a worthless company. Now that most of the employees have left, you only own a toxic brand, an open-source code repository, a mediocre website and a pile of coins that doesn't give you the power you expected. If you managed to regain the top 20 spots again, Steem would become a centralized database, and that would make it worthless.

Are you willing to shorten the SP power-down period to 3-7 days from the current period?

You're still clueless about Steem technology if you think less than 7 days is possible. It's not our problem that Binance, Huobi and Poloniex used their customers' funds to vote for your fake witnesses. They're free to buy Steem on @blocktrades or @bittrex if they can't satisfy withdrawal requests.

IMO, this post shows that you're starting to learn a bit about the ecosystem that you have entered, so I'm glad about that! It's more than just blockchain, and it's more than just social media. The two interact in a unique way. And you're still only scratching the surface. Please continue. I know it hasn't seemed very welcoming, but if you persevere, I am sure you'll see that there's still sooo much unrealized potential for Steemit in this ecosystem.

Although I don't run a witness, I'll respond to your questions:

I don't agree with 3-7 day powerdown because (i) it could enable people to get curation rewards twice with the same Steem; and (ii) it would weaken security by enabling hackers to power down their victims' accounts before the account recovery mechanism could be engaged.

If you're serious about removing downvotes, I'd suggest coupling that with a rewards mechanism that's modeled after a second price auction in order to discourage overvalued rewards. I'd also suggest finding a way to try it out with an SMT before deploying it on the base chain. I wrote about the 2nd price auction, here.

A second price auction may be an improvement because:

The theoretical nicety of second price auctions, first pointed out by William Vickrey, is that bidding one's true value is a dominant strategy.

There's no need for downvotes if natural incentives encourage people to avoid over-bidding.

With the current algorithm, however,I think downvotes may be necessary (although abusive downvoting is a very real problem here, and it's not clear to me whether the cost outweighs the benefit).

FWIW, I am strongly in favor of private property, raising the value of Steem, and welcoming investors & exchanges.

Please continue to interact with the community like this. I honestly think it can benefit Steemit's bottom line and the Steem blockchain to have you engaged here!

Justin Sun or you just want to fuck him

The question is not if I want to fuck you. The question is how much are you paying.

<3 to SUN, Fcuk NED and all the morons

Man I have to admit this post is pretty cocaine-hilarious

The fact that you are even considering shortening the powerdown to less than a week means you don't know much how Steem works.

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