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So JS didn't offer them 2.5k$ monthly to run their node? Strange, that multiple people already confirmed this, independent from one another...

That's just a rumor. Did you see any evidence? Many people are fooled by the previous top 20 witnesses and whales. They didn't remove steemit's stake, instead, they make it to steem.dao, and it's for the proposals. And guess who can get the votes and take the funds? The previous top 20 witnesses and whales. Their cross voting can get themselves much of the things.
Besides, top 20 witnesses gets much increased SP, that increase the total circulation, and make usual people like your and my assets' value shrink.

It doesn't really matter. Justin doesn't need them anymore, as we speak the blockchain is being censored through the API endpoint so even Steempeak doesn't show the censored posts any more. I am seeing a dystopia unfold here. There is a growing list of people that don't have equal speaking rights in Justin's little kingdom. Of course that doesn't matter for people like you and Hive might feel like a dictatorship.

Just know that if you burn yourself on anything, which I have seen happen to basically everyone piece by piece, just give it time...

You will be welcome on the other side.

And just like that by mentioning the big H I already went against the new terms and conditions again, oops!

glhf!

You will be welcome on the other side.

And just like that by mentioning the big H I already went against the new terms and conditions again, oops!

Two very true statements.

About the difference between the stake here and there: steem.dao doesn't have keys and can only be moved by hardforking, which means that every witness has to be on board to do anything. That makes a huge difference. You could say it's just a way to represent the stake, it cannot do anything as it stands. Meanwhile, you cannot deny the stake is not just in Justin's hands here, but actively being abused.

I wait while I let you do the math.

Really? Can you show your references? The fund of approved SPS are from steem.dao, as you said, if there's no keys, the fund can only move by hardfork. That doesn't make sense.

The SPS funds are through SBD and those are programmed in as an on-chain app that follows rules. Nobody does that with keys, it's just in the blockchain rules. SP is by definition not mobile, so the SP is just parked on that keyless account and cannot be accessed except by a hardfork. There will be a vote about the accounts that the next hardfork should give the HP equivalent of SP etc, but it's still up to the witnesses if they will run that or not.

Please tell us who told you that. As a member of the @dev.supporters team, I confirm you that we did not receive a single penny from anyone (including Justin of course).

(Using the same words) multiple people who became top 20 witnesses already confirmed that they did not receive any, independent from one another.

Please check the facts youself instead of listening to the one-sided propaganda. I understand that one may not like Justin and/or steem, but insulting new witnesses without any evidence is totally different.

Talking about evidence... Any evidence brought up here is being erased, so that's not a fair game...

Talking about DLT... Data on chains can't be easily erased. Maybe you should study more about it.

This isn't a DLT. This is a selection of DLT data availed the apps of choice via the APIs they use. How do you know what is or isn't in the blockchain?

Perhaps you should study more about it.

I don't actually know. But I have changed to use steempeak for a long time. The team mainly support Hive now, so there would be little possibility of censor of the blockchain.

Steempeak still uses an API. They now actually censor the API output. The data is still there on the blockchain and if you have a direct reference to the article, it will still show without problems. It's kinda equivalent to a shadowban, designed to be as invisible as possible.

All dapps use APIs to get data from the blockchains. Censorship at the API level affects all dapps using APIs, including Steempeak, which is completely censored by the #irredeemables list through that mechanism, and obviously others employed by Sun Yuchen.

While Sun is only presently censoring Steem, the API level censorship of Hive is ongoing presently, exactly as it is on Steem.

Being a top 20 witness brings in $1,660 in revenue per month at current Steem price. The vote to place you in top 20 = being paid.

Interesting perspective. So top 20 witnesses on HIVE are mostly paid by freedom, pumpkin, and themselves😆

No, they're paid from the pool of new tokens generated by inflation, just as they are here. The voters backing them merely choose them to get paid, and don't pay them directly.

Uh yeah, they're paid by the stakeholder community voting for them. Whereas here it comes down in its virtual entirety to Justin Sun.

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