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RE: Rise Steemit

in #steem8 years ago

I see this as "spamvertisement" he doesn't actually care about our thoughts as was made clear by posting the exact same thing to each user and saying he "believes" in us.

I call BS and while I could choose to ignore it, if this post becomes successful, I don't want to see wallets become a place for begging.

I think the occasional incredible post warrants steem dollars given, but in my opinion, the wallet should not be the place to promote. Use the chat or make a comment on someone else's post that you find this post would be applicable to.

I vote on what I think is quality and not because someone will pay me to do so. That is foolish short-term ideology to be willing to sell your vote. You should not really even always vote on a friends article if you don't feel it is up to par with what you want to see on steemit.

Some people need to be called out and told to step up their game. That may be people that made thousands of dollars on their first posts and now have stale content.

Hopefully you realize this passion is not directed at you @kuriko or @vdoh. It's simply something I personally feel devalues the platform in the long-term.

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Very good objective analysis of the incentive systems. My initial reaction to @vdoh was to upvote, then I wante to downvote after reading a few posts, but now I'm just going to sit out and observe the dynamics of the system. People try different things and eventually the market will figure out what's the most effective way to advertise posts.

That's the thing. I love the idea and would gladly vote for one that is not associated and linked to this specific post.

The content isn't the problem at all.

Had I stumbled upon this and saw his idea I'd be all for it, but he ruined that with the way he got me to see it.

I understand it's frustrating to have a good idea fall flat on its face that time and effort was put into to create. Almost everyone has felt those same feelings. It's what we do after that defines us. Quit and whine/or go out and keep making the best content you can.

Perhaps people are up-voting the ingenuity of the idea?

Wherever there's money to be made there will be those whom try to use their cleverness to test for loop-holes and schemes that can produce profits for minimal efforts. Just like in any part of the real-world, there will be gullible people that just fall right into the trap; there will be people that see the scam for what it is and be so bent up by it that they'll go out of their way searching for institutions like the BBB in an attempt to snuff it; there will be the apathetic that don't give a rats arse one way or the other; and there will be the people who're privy to it and are, themselves, clever enough to profit from their own angle.

How one perceives the play comes down to one's own up-bringing and values. Morality is totally subjective. Competition is the only reality. The checkered flag was already waving the moment you were born.

I applaud innovation, but sometimes you poke a bear and it bites you.

Theoretically I could make the most commented post by commenting over and over again on the same post. Is it innovative? Yes. Is it wise? No. So I won't do it. To me this is no different than replying to a whales comment with "please look at my article"

If he had tailored each message individually to people and added some sort of value that showed he cared about them more than the vote he might get, then it would be a truly different story.

Basically I feel he spammed/lied at the same time. If he can tell me how he "values" each person he copied and pasted his link on I will remove his flag, but that will take days to prove that he wanted more than an upvote.

There are plenty of intelligent and creative ways to get people to look at content. Steemit to me is innovative. I don't want to see "like this and i'll like that" that defeats the entire process of trying to reward the best content.

@jamesbrown you are welcome to disagree and I see that you see this from a very different viewpoint. But I don't hate anyone here or hope @vdoh is never successful, but as a warning to others who will no doubt try something similar it is just that a warning.

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