Steem and Hive, the big fight
Hello, people, and welcome to my opinion!
I was reading a few posts here on steem and conversations on discord, and it seems like a lot of people are acting like this is some big religious war.
"why did you wreck our chain?"
"why did you go make another chain? we're the only real chain!"
To me, it seems like a lot of words for nothing. Steem is still steem, it hasn't changed. People still can post whatever they want on the steem blockchain. Hell, they might even not get downvoted so much now for spam.
All you people who want to continue on steem have absolutely nothing stopping you from doing that. Go ahead and continue to post.
"but people are leaving steem to go to Hive!"
Since when has that been different? People leave the steem blockchain for all different reasons. Hive is only 1 of those reasons. Those of us who have been here since when the price of steem was high remember the exodus away from steem when the price tanked.
"but they blacklisted me from the airdrop on Hive!"
So? It didn't affect your tokens on steem one little bit. If you're all about steem, why should you care about a different blockchain? Unless, of course, it's about the money...
"but it's not fair to block me from Hive!"
Nobody blocked you from Hive, they just didn't give you the airdrop. You were informed about who would not get the airdrop. You made your choices. It is what it is.
Steem vs Hive is not a religious war about who is right and who is wrong, it's simply a matter of preference for each person to decide. Shockingly enough, you can actually post on both platforms if you want to.
Nobody ruined the steem blockchain by creating the hive blockchain. The steem blockchain stayed the same as it had been. It will continue to be the same until the next hard fork, whenever and whatever that ends up being. Who knows, maybe you'll be able to power down much faster after the next hard fork. A lot of people have been wanting that one.
For those of you who want to bitch about what the Hive fork has done to "the community", apparently it wasn't quite as much of a community as you might have thought it was. You can always build another community of like-minded people, that's how things go after a community gets divided along certain lines of thought, kind of like politics...
That's about all I have to say about this for now. I look forward to seeing the replies to this, if I get any...
Yep, all thems good words.
But, doesn't address the reality.
And further, we don't know the reality yet.
To many people they saw steemit as the community
and banked on it remaing to keep STEEM moving forward.
And so, that's gone. Most of the movers and shakers of STEEM have moved over.
Thus, unless STEEM gets an infusion of movering, then it is going to stagnate and die.
The really sad thing is that Mr. Tron may actually get things done, like the SMTs that were so long promised. But it will be done robotically, without heart.
So, i feel sorry for everyone. Which side of the line will be best?
Which side will have greener grass?
Its not so much that a decision has to be made, but a decision has to be made without much knowledge.
Pretty well said...If a person likes steem so much then why bother about hive...Unless it's all about money and less about caring about steem, as you rightly put it.
People often use similar services but from different suppliers, right across life in the real world, and online is no different...It seems people are just holding onto things too tightly here, for sake of habit of it, rather than just going about their business and moving on. Good post.
Good to know your opinion! One thing I thought I'd point out is the part where you said: "Nobody blocked you from Hive, they just didn't give you the airdrop. You were informed about who would not get the airdrop. You made your choices. It is what it is."
I think you might be under a false impression of part of the timeline of events. In this post delivered by some of the Korean folks of the Steem community it shows three classes of people that were excluded from the airdrop.
I can mostly see why they excluded the first two and don't have any problem with that. It's that third category that really rubs me the wrong way and it appears to effect 300 Steemians exactly. They wrote software to exclude that third group from the HIVE airdrop based on the following criteria.
Accounts excluded who voted a minimum of two sockpuppets or proxied someone who voted a minimum of two and who didn't unvote before the hive announcement with more than 1k sp.
As you can see, these individuals had to have not voted in prescribed manner before the announcement of HIVE. So in those instances, they were not in fact making a choice at all. Only a choice for who will be their witness on the Steem blockchain.
One of these "forbidden proxies" proxy.token had recently market itself as against down votes. And as far as I understand it that resonated strong with the Korean community. So, that proxy got a lot of Korean votes. I know this because I had voted for them before this whole Justin Sun thing came about. Yet, after further digging. It didn't appear they were truthful in their intent so I removed them.
Had I not discovered that, based on the spoopy rule I would have woken up one day to find that the community jumped ship to a new platform and left me holding a bag of steem tokens without affording me the same in HIVE solely because of who I voted for witness without having been given a proper warning or choice in the matter. Remember the third part of the category was who didn't unvote before the hive announcement with more than 1k sp.
So even thou I wasn't excluded, just like @builderofcastles mentioned. I think that "many people they saw steemit as the community and banked on it remaing to keep STEEM moving forward." IMO, it makes governance for HIVE look pretty bad and even contains a chilling effect now, don't vote for the wrong witnesses or else... or else who knows?
It gives me mixed feelings bout the new HIVE community and what kind of ethics it will have with regard to respecting the sanctity of how HIVEians vote for witnesses. If someone invests let's say 20k USD into HIVE and votes for the wrong witness, will they be soft forked out for voting incorrectly? It just seems like a real messed up situation to me. It's why I resolved to not vote for witnesses, and it was even suggested by a witness that perhaps that's for the best. Make of that what you will.
People love Drama... it's so daft. Oops.. I only came here to check my wallet... back to HIVE!