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RE: An Update on @EZVote and the collective going along with it! HIGHER RETURNS NOW AVAILABLE! Over 14K SP now available to vote with! :)

in #steem4 years ago (edited)

Hey, I was probably among the first to find you, and at 1st it all seemed a little shady and I titled you [broken robot] in champion's gate, but now you are [dryad sapling] which is much better.
(although all bot comments are still muted by default)

Actually, I use ezvote and a few others for dishing out rewards to people, since my own voting power usually cannot handle more than comment-level rewards, but then sometimes comments also deserve a big reward and I don't have many tools, so reading here that comments can be rewarded too is great! My question would be if the bot comment can be toggled off for when it targets a comment? I'll give example why:

Imagine the scenario: Contest-XYZ takes place entirely in comments, and participation is rewarded (entry is high), so everyone with a decent entry gains a good upvote as mini-reward, and I do this using you, and other tools. Except if each one of them has bot response comment attached, even if muted, I think it starts to clutter things and detract from actual reply chains?? So I think either it should be 'off by default', or have some method to toggle it off in memo, for these kinds of purposes. Honestly I prefer off by default in comment and on by default on post (I kinda like having all my little summons show up at the bottom of a community member's post and they think, wow, this place is cool)

Let me know if it can be done (or is it already?) and thanks for making a useful steem tool. IDGAF what the bot-haters say, steem is simply 100x better with things like this around. GodSpeed to you.

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Hello! Thank you for using our service!

I completely understand your perspective, before the delegations began to fill out in any measurable manner, the return was quite pitiful for the bot, I agree. That is why we have been up front from the beginning about the details of it and how it will amass power to give better returns in the future. As of right now it gives a higher return than any other bot (Assuming you get a single vote round to yourself. Even at a 50/50 split, still.) and we're proud to be able to offer that. Vote bots solely for earnings and not for assistance in promotion of content have been the scourge of steem for so long and we didn't want this one becoming another one of those. We also capped the bot at 4SBD/STEEM (Was originally 2, but 4 seemed ok for long-term growth.) so that someone (in the future, assuming wider usage.) can't just come along and sap up the entire vote from everybody to a ridiculous scale by sending 20/50/100+ and essentially shutting everyone else out while making the votes unprofitable. The base cost of a vote was also kept intentionally low, so that even those with very few funds, can afford to get some decent promotion. The goal is 100k SP by the end of August, but we will see! With over 24% APR offerings for delegations, I see no reason why we shouldn't be able to end up somewhere near there by that point!

I'm getting off topic... back to your concern/question. :P

The comments will be turned off in about a week or so, after the bot has been promoted to the public a bit more (Sometimes I personally send bids to the bot so that it promotes random content I've read, and puts a comment out there to spread the word. I did this for trending posts at first too, but then decided to take better advantage of the curation we would all be able to earn, from doing so.) and after it gets a bit more usage/recognition, I plan to turn the commenting off (As people will be able to see that it's voted, so no need. :P) and it will function as-is, with the exception of a portion of it's power being used to promote gaming of various sorts. (I also noticed some chess-related stuff being promoted, so that is something I would consider adding to competitions/etc for the new site I'm working on.)

Also, I say "we" sometimes and "I" at others, because I am but one person of 3 that are in on this project. Of course, I hyped steem up to them at first and they liked it, but then decided social media just wasn't their thing and shirked the duty of a social media presence when it came to steem, to me. We run the collective of projects, I manage the blockchain-related things. :P

Again, we really appreciate you using our bot and are glad that you're seeing MUCH better returns than before. :P

If you ever feel the value returned for your bid was far too low to be reasonable, you can always also reply to us on here and (Let's be honest, it'll be me, they won't bother. HAHAHA :P) one of us will hop on and respond as soon as we realize there's been a comment. We're more than willing to correct the vote % to give you something more reasonable or profitable! No matter how one feels about bidbots, they are a business and if you neglect your business or it's patrons, you won't succeed. It's also absolutely horrible to just set one up and then monitor nothing at all. We don't have to all like the same content, but sometimes there's clear spam and junk posts that shouldn't have been promoted, sapping up vote power from more deserving content. We're extremely reasonable because we think people should be able to post whatever they like (for the most part) and earn, as long as it's not horrible shit or excessively spammy. (Like no child porn, obv, and no porn really period, no threats, no glorifying murder, etc.) Beyond the overly horrible, I see no reason why people shouldn't be allowed to pump their posts a bit. We all like feeling valuable and we all have different perceptions of value! Room for all, I say! (Minus the horrible shit. Always. :P)

I completely agree with basically everything you said. It's nice to have a tool available to amp my voting power in favor of someone else (much cooler than sending them a 'tip' in wallet), and even in the cases I use vote bots on myself I'm just inevitably powering up to vote higher on other people later ;) I think there is also this idea that certain category of people need to feel in control of their own destiny on this platform, so if a new person comes along and has no pull or shove they feel at the mercy of everyone else (kinda feels like 'posting-RNG'), but then along comes a cheap bot for them to mess with and suddenly their eyes open wide, and they're here for much longer toying with that idea. My profile's 'about' is pertaining to this ;) I sometimes do things the vote-police may consider a bit shady, but in the end the master plan unveils! I think people may eventually thank me for pulling a few strings, tipping the scales, and other silly shenanigans. In essence, I cannot inspire outside communities to join without showing them a bit of POWER... you know? Like,

hey guys come see alphacore look at this shiny penny, don't you want one.

By the way, based on what your reply mentions related to gaming, we are probably on the same page here!

For my purpose inside champion's gate, I actually like the little comment messages from bots onto posts, because it lets them know I sent them a gift and wasn't by chance, and they also like to see my armies of bots for 'lore' reasons:
('alphacore' is lord of the machines in several games). ^_~

but, I think for now I'll abstain from using ezvote on all but the best comments, just to not disturb the newbie people's conversations(they are dealing with some system shock from being kinda half-forced into migrating over here), but as this is obviously not some little spambot like I thought on day 1, I'll definitely be using it either way.

Now it is just a matter of getting these Chess Evolved Online guys to actually post things often enough to be able to actually do that! LOL

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