RE: Today's society: Infantilization and childhood loss
A child is not an adult until he develops his cognitive abilities and skills
This is possibly one of the most difficult libertarian’s question that currently exist - When is the time that children becomes an adult and therefore can be fully responsible for their own chosen actions? Do you think that the answer is as simple as you make it seem? I highly doubt that.
The text creates this feeling for me that you are jumping to a conclusion very quickly. Don’t get me wrong there is lot of truths in the text but also lot of quick judgements of a very complex matter.
Parenting is a very hard thing to do and no one is truly ready to become one ever. The children often times teaches us more than we teach it in return. This leads to us growing but the children paying for our lack of knowledge. I can guarantee you that when you grow up and have children you will fail miserably from time to time, thus becoming sort of what you speak about (so will I don’t worry:D). Imo the problem here lies elsewhere and is much simpler. People are stupid and have always been. That is simple biology. As the world is becoming ever more complex, you want those stupid genes to adapt in 2 generations, which is totally impossible. It will take hundreds, more like thousands of years before society will be able to adapt, and we can only hope that it will not be too late (read hope that we won’t destroy ourselves till then).
You basically say that most people are still children. I say they are simply just stupid and you have high expectations of the so called "adults".
You also seem not respect "interpersonally incomparable value". Throughout the text it seems like you expect others to share your values (parents should say what is good and evil, what freedom truly is etc.). That is not going to happen man:).
Otherwise it was a good read...I would just expect less conclusions that cannot be backed by anything real and more pondering and laying out of questions from a philosopher.
So, to begin first when I made this post I had chosen two particular targets one, Millennials and Childhood as we know it today.
This is not an easy answer to address, I admit, however, there was a particular time when humans regularly emancipated themselves from their parents. Before Millennials, young people used to live between 18 or 20 years old with their parents. We as a society agreed that teenage years last till 21 years. What we are seeing today is a generation that lives around 26 to 30 years with their parents, that means that responsibility comes late in life, therefore we are losing that perception. That's way symptoms such as lack of responsibility, irrational paternalism, rampant consumption, thoughts such as feelings first facts after prevails in this generation.
No one doubts this, but due to those reasons I already explained in my post the differences between the education of a child raised by a minimal and one raised by a baby boomer is way different. Millenials due to their lack of responsibility do not take care of their children in a proper way. In fact, millennials are more likely to abort a child than a prior generation, and we have to ask why is it? And everything is because the way they think, they don't assume responsibilities and everything that causes harm to them(of course we are talking in general terms, I'm not saying all millennials are the same since I'm one), despite being their fault, is someone else's fault.
I think you might have misunderstood what I was saying since what I was referring to were millennials. And I don't also believe that the world is much complex today, in fact, it's way easier than what it was before. In terms of transport, money, access, poverty, and different elements that were problems in the past and nowadays do not prevail.
I'm saying most millennials are still children and they are in their adulthood. We must have a lot of expectations with our adults since they rule our society, institutions, families. Of course, I have a lot of expectations.
Not really man, everyone has a different perception of what reality and truth is, and they found meaning throughout different ways. I'm not expecting them to have a universal moral standard. I'm expecting them to raise their children in way they teach them those concepts. Since philosophy, art, literature and other important subjects are fading away and have neither meaning or value for our society.
Thanks for your comment once again. I hope this answer might clarify the things I wanted to express with this post. Cheers.
It was tough to respond to this, since my main point was obviously not clearly transferred.
First bias you have. We are not living in history. History has been can be studied, can teach us a lot, but cannot be taken as a god-like source. Today is completely different age. Few generations ago people often time didn’t make it to their fifties. I could continue for eternity about facts that have changed over time. + SOCIETY DIDNT AGREE ON ALMOST ANYTHING. That is one of the biggest biases one can have to think in this way. The only possible way how to effectively measure consensus is through Blockchain. There is NO AGREEMENT of the society on anything. In fact it’s very easy to find someone that disagrees with "what has been agreed upon". One would first need to define consensus and most importantly how to measure it. This is not an effective premise, in fact it is very invalid premise. In our country the age is for example 18. This differs across states and continents, therefore cannot be perceived as a valid premise.
The second argument is fine in my eyes with one exception that i tried to address with that comment, but i agree that i could have done it...well...in better way:D. Look another bias you have is that you think that a "proper way" of raising a child exists. Didn’t you say you are a libertarian? You should be then familiar with Austrian economy. In your last argument (first half) you show that you are in fact familiar with it, yet (in the second half) you yet again state that you expect them to share your values of philosophy, art. etc. You don’t smell the contradiction? For I do:).
I think that this is rather ignorant statement. I would need several articles to refute your statement, therefore the argument is not suitable for a mere comment. You basically just chose few elements that are easier, but totally chose to ignore that one in order to have a chance in today’s economy has to be MUCH MORE knowledgeable and (in cities) have HUGE information literacy in order to even be able to use the advantages the todays world grants and be able to compete on today’s market and not die out (or of course become a parasite of any given state)...butwhatever...as said I would need tons of space to refute this. There is much to study about this topic. I would recommend Information science (scientific domain which is also part of philosophy btw).
To sum up the comment - remember the old Socrates. He was kinda advanced for his times. I sincerely believe that I do not have to cite his most famous quote right? Try to think about it before you jump to fast conclusions...no offence, just sincere effort of bias pinpointing...