A Socialists Utopia...turned in to a Socialists HELL!!
Things in Venezuela have officially hit the 'point of no return'. Well, I guess I can't say "officially", considering things have been progressively getting worse for the past 6 years. THAT, and there really isn't anyone left to make an "official" call of ANYTHING anymore.
It seems things have de-volved into a whole new ball game! We thought it was bad when they banned guns in 2012. Even worst when they labeled preppers "hoarders", who were then subsequently targeted by the government and roving gangs in 2013. WORSE STILL, when the government started rationing electricity and forcing farmers and producers to turn over all harvests and manufacturing capabilities in 2014.
By 2016, the people were unequivocally left on their own. The food and medicine had run out long ago. 
Where's the Army, you ask? Why aren't they helping? Well, they're too busy assassinating their own citizens with snipers set up around the cities - leaving "dissidents" and TEENAGERS bleeding to death on the streets. Gunned down with no consequences.
But now civil war looks to be in the cards.
I'm honestly surprised the whole country hasn't already gone up in flames with the tyranny that's gripped the failed Socialist utopia Hugo Chavez created not so long ago. 
And to think...these were the same types of policies the socialists of America were demanding of the next U.S. President. 
Did we end up dodging at least oneHUGE bullet by Bernie Sanders being sidelined by Hillary and his own Democratic party? Maybe. Are there more bullets to dodge with Trump and his administration? Maybe.
All I can say is...THANK GOD we have the RIGHT to purchase guns, ammunitions and bullet proof vests in the good old U.S.of A! As long as we have our 2nd Amendment we will always be better off than the poor citizens of Venezuela, or any other country who strips the common man of their god-given right to protect themselves, families and property.
THANK THE LORD for giving us founding fathers who had the knowledge and the foresight to implement for Americans far and wide, the United States Constitution!
God Bless America
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its not socialism thats failing
http://www.mintpressnews.com/us-led-economic-war-not-socialism-tearing-venezuela-apart/218335/
http://www.telesurtv.net/english/news/Venezuela-Maduro-Accuses-Right-Wing-of-Buying-Protest-Violence-20170417-0007.html
The problem is that the oil price dropped a ton and that is where most of their gpd comes from.
Well maybe if their governement didn't outlaw cryptocurrencies, or perhaps let people actually produce on the vast agticultural lands they posess, people wouldnt be starving to deatg, which in turn, wouldn't have everyone so irate right now. Just because oil dropped doesn't mean that was their only means of producing for themselves. Their socialist policies have literally frozen them out of everything thay could have helped the citizenry.
I have read nowhere about it outlawing bitcoin.
They have horrible natural resources and oil is basically it.
Also they are still not socialist, socialism is where the workers collectively control the means of production.
Maybe not "outlawed" via a set law, but they sure are arresting miners and people using the currency by persecuting them as"outlaws" with arrest and forfeiture:
"While bitcoin mining isn't illegal in Venezuela, early last year the government began a crackdown on miners, painting the activity as a subversive practice that bypasses the capital controls and is linked to "cybercriminals".
They fear being discovered by the Servicio Bolivariano de Inteligencia Nacional, or SEBIN, the country's secret police.
"Not only the SEBIN, the national police has also raided miners," Brito says.
According to some accounts, agents with the secret police have extorted miners, threatening them with arrest."
Miners who have been arrested have been charged with tax fraud, money laundering, electricity theft and other crimes.
-Aljazeera News-
So, you see, It's not as easy as jumping on an exchange and purchasing whatever Crypto you'd like, just to get a leg up on everyone else and get yourself out of the country. Read up on the stories of people who have actually escaped the country by using Bitcoin...it was all done in secret and with the help of OTHER people from OTHER countries.
so you mean they are trying not to pay taxes while the government is in major debt? Remember constant electricity can be a struggle, especially when people waste hundreds of kilowatts for profit. That's literally taking it from the rest of their society.
also bitcoin mining is a literal waste of resources for society.
also I really don't care they are late stage welfare capitalism.
Why woukd ANYONE pay taxes when they're LITERALLY starving? Are you kidding?
They are literally stealing it from starving people. The bitcoin miners get free electricity, giving them a major source of profit.
What are you TALKING about? What part of "it's illegal to mine in Venezeula do u not get"? There are rolling blackouts non-stop. Miners, users and the like are being arrested in raids non-stop. And how would the miners help ANYONE by stopping their operations? It's called survival. Do you HONESTLY believe that if people stopped using whatever electricity they're using to provide for themselves is ACTUALLY going to be properly allocated to the starving masses? I think FOOD AND MEDICINE is more of a top priorty right now more than anything.
For god sakes, the police are stealing the jewelry off people in the streets as well as THEIR SHOES! Stop it with your socialist garbage, you guys have made fools of yourselves already. It's over! It will never happen in America. You guys are the reason why this country will remain conservative for the next 30 years. So...thank you.
So, we should not be able to mine bitcoin or anyother coin in Venezuela? We are not able to buy any other currency? we have exchange control, so it is really illigal to buy any currency (cryptos, fiat, etc). If you like you could read one of my posts where I mention how exchange control is one of the main sources of corruption here in Venezuela if you are interested. As I mention earlier, It is clear you are a socialist, but please do not make the mistake of believing in anyone who says they are socialists.
We have horrible natural resourses? you could plant almost anything here and it grows, we such beauty nature this could be a top tourism site. We even have almost perfect climate. We have one of the biggest reserves in gold, aluminium, uranium, we even just discovered lots of thorium for nuclear energy. Natural resourses is not the issue. Is what is being done with them
No no no, I live in Venezuela, is not that the oil price droped, price at 1998 of oil was at 10$. Population was about about 24 Million. Prices now are arond 40$ and population has only gone up to 32million. The production of oil have droped to levels we were having on 1988, due to lack of maintenance. I really respect if you believe in socialism, though I dont. But trust me, I live here and oil prices droping is not the reason of our crisis. Is corruption, money printing, price and exchange controls, expropriations . You posted those 2 links, I could post you 100+ links that say the opposite. Anyway, even if you are socialist, you do not have to defend anyone just because they say they are socialists. Just as I cant defend anyone just because they say they are capitalists.
socialism is where the workers themselves control the means of production. The country is majority private industry, in fact it has more private industry than many first world countries. You are completely wrong.
You are the one that is wrong, anyway, im living here, you are not. If you really want to enjoy all the "benefits" you say this government has I encourage you to come here and visit us. But I do not get what are you defending, are you defending socialism or are you defending Venezuelan government? cuse im not arguing about socialism with you.
I never said the government has any benefits retard
also you still are not socialist
this video sums it up
Ok now we are clear that you know this government is distroying Venezuelan economy. I dont mind if you are a socialist imbecil as long as you know never to trust this kind of governments even if they "lie" saying they are socialists.
i literally made a post on social democracy on how it tricks the workers
even if they are trying to be socialists, they don't actually have that much control over the economy. The ones with the most capital do. The capitalists are destroying the economy because socialists are "in charge".
The problem with socialism is, it works fine until you run out of other peoples money. Cheers
socialism is where the workers control the means of production and get what they produce.
Capitalism is what fails because you run out of other peoples money.
There hasn't been a capitalist economy anywhere in the world for 100 years.
so we had your special brand of capitalism for a 100 years total?
My special brand of capitalism!!! There is no capitalism or socialism all we have is fascism in every country!!!
we have had socialism before?
Yessir! Although, you will never convince a supporter otherwise. Because they could do so much better with their version of it. True Capitalism will always be their fallguy. It's a shame they haven't yet realized that America runs on Crony-Capitalism...which is why things have gotten so screwed up.
Let the markets function as they were intended to do and socialism would never be talked about again.
Andreas Antonopoulis really likes to use Venezuela as an example when talking about the virtues of bitcoin (And that is in fact how I came to learn about the situation over there in the first place). Can't inflate bitcoin, unlike the virtually worthless bolivars their government keeps printing.
As far as guns are concerned, I'm sure Venezuelans can still purchase them, albeit on the blackmarket. With bitcoin ;)
YEAHHHH BUT THAT ISN"T REALL SOCIALISMMSMSMMS
It never is....
Yeah I was just kidding.
Now this is slightly off topic, but what I don't get is, you are free to buy most guns, but the government has access to tanks, ships, aircraft and navy seals. Even if they did go bad, they have so much more firepower than all the rednecks. They are also better trained, so how would you guys have a chance against them?
Going back 200 years, the government was basically equal technology wise with the general population, it was just guns and horses, so it made sense the people could rise up, but now the government would just carpet bomb the rust belt and bingo, problem solved. If chaos would ensue, then yeah, it would be better to have guns to protect yourself from other people with guns and weapons, but if you were trying to take down the government it would be far harder and possibly impossible.
Anyway, I think that even if socialism doesn't work, capitalism isn't doing that great either. It's better than most alternatives, but it still has major problems. Just something to consider
The problem is, we don't have true Capitalism in America. Government intervention is not Captialism...it's corporatism.
I think if the Venezuela citizens hadn't had their guns taken from them we may have had an opportunity to find out what would have happened. I do agree with you, though. The people don't really have a chance against their governments, but it seems like most people in Venezeula, who aren't out in the streets, are too busy being locked up in their homes because of the roving criminality happening on a day to day basis. People can't defend themselves from the gangs and looters.
What do you mean by government intervention? What restrictions do they have in place?
Also just a note, I think that if the government takes all guns away, you basically have to trust they will be good in the long run. In australia, not many people have guns, and while this has reduced massacres, we would be screwed if they turned on us. I guess I'll back peddle from my last comment. if more people owned guns, it would slightly help prevent the government from dictatoring. The government would still have the upperhand, but it wouldn't be a cakewalk.
My point is, complete gun bans would give the government more potential control over their citizens, but it isn't good to have very loose restrictions either. There needs to be balance, because there is a massacre in the US every other month and a bit more gun control could help prevent some of them.
I know my points stray slightly from what you were saying, but I felt I should say this. I also hope you understand what I mean, because when I proof-read my comment, it's a bit of a mess.
What intervention? Really?
Yeah sorry I'm not knowledgeable on that. I should research it myself, but I'm only half interested in that topic.
that is not even near social democracy.
Again, it never is.
I don't think Bernie would have been any different to Obama, Clinton, Bush et al. I think that he was just giving 'lip service' to his followers but wouldn't actually have followed through.
Lets not forget that he was really bashing Hillary prior to the Democrat Nomination and then when he was cheated out of the chance to lead the Democrats, gave his full backing to her, even after all that he'd said about her!!!!
And now look at him. All cozied up with his million dollar payout, new mansion...and a newly launched FBI investigation into his wifes "misdeeds".
I think it was like, he didn't like her, but then he really didn't want to trump to win so he decided to support her. Lesser of two evils. To be honest I'd have done the same
Thank you for spreading the word about Venezuela !!!