If you can move beyond the ad-hominem starting point and provide any specific objections, that would probably be a good place to facilitate actual discussion.
Do you think that broadly calling women bitches within your first few paragraphs incentivizes more or less people to read on?
What type of people will continue reading after you write things like that - only people who agree with your point or a fair distribution between people who agree and people who disagree? Which of those two options facilities further constructive two-sided discussion?
Yeah, I agree with what you are saying here. I was only responding to the misogyny claim, not the article itself.
I think the answers to most of these questions lie in the fact that this was posted in the #funny and #satire tag. I get the impression this was not meant to engender any real discussion on gender roles and male/female interpersonal situations.
As I said in my previous response:
"Think of it like reading Cracked.com (where this article could probably be posted with few edits) or stand-up comedy, where the formula is:
Kernel of truth (often optional) + expansion to humorous proportions = funny for some people subjectively."
The kernel of truth that this article is based on is the "gyno-centrism" running the west, where women:
Get Title IX and discrimination protection that men don't.
Get alimony that men generally don't.
Child support that men generally don't.
Automatic presumption of "being the better parent" in custody battles.
Vastly lighter sentencing for all crimes.
Numerous scholarships, minority training programs, and various other advantages.
Preferred admissions to college (look at the gender splits, you will see that all else equal, women are now preferred.)
Each of those is indisputable, established fact. The creator of this platform Ned partially made Steemit BECAUSE he was divorced raped for over half his after tax salary each month in alimony. (His wife decided that his questioning of the government and church and interest in cryptocurrency was good enough reason to steal his children and more than half his salary).
These are the kernels of truth that make this (admittedly, basically gallows) humor funny to those of us who are regularly being discriminated against in the west now. I have worked in the family courts in the US and let me tell you, it is a grim spectacle that will make you question your faith in people's basic goodness.
Thank you for taking the time to write a thoughtful response. I would be happy to discuss any of this further as time allows.
This post may be misogynistic, but it's also obvious comedy that exaggerates a truth to shine a light on it. Misandry has gone mainstream in Western culture, and this post is an example of the inevitable backlash that comes from radical feminist's anti-male bigotry. The difference between the Mad Goat and modern day feminism, is the Mad Goat is mostly joking, while feminists are seriously demanding the oppression of men.
Yeah, I just got done with a forced discrimination retraining at work. The "gender discrimination section", like all others, had 3 varied examples of discrimination. All of them were for not hiring women for some reason or another.
They literally do not even admit that men can be discriminated against. Discrimination against men is actively encouraged. It is game-theory-correct to fire a white man first, as he is the only one who cannot sue you for some form of bullshit discrimination.
That was referencing a popular Chris Rock standup routine. It's in the first 45 seconds of this video. The females in the audience seemed to think it was funny.
If you can move beyond the ad-hominem starting point and provide any specific objections, that would probably be a good place to facilitate actual discussion.
As would reading the tags: #satire #funny
Think of it like reading Cracked.com (where this article could probably be posted with few edits) or stand-up comedy, where the formula is:
Kernel of truth (often optional) + expansion to humorous proportions = funny for some people subjectively.
Then again if you didn't start with an ad-hominem attack you would also facilitate more discussion.
Lol, you talking to me?
Maybe you should look up ad-hominem.
Hint: Pointing out when someone else uses an ad hominem fallacy is not an ad hominem fallacy.
Ironically, your statement is much closer to ad-hominem than mine, since it attempts to smear me with a lie.
Fair point, had to look up ad-hominem again.
Do you think that broadly calling women bitches within your first few paragraphs incentivizes more or less people to read on?
What type of people will continue reading after you write things like that - only people who agree with your point or a fair distribution between people who agree and people who disagree? Which of those two options facilities further constructive two-sided discussion?
Yeah, I agree with what you are saying here. I was only responding to the misogyny claim, not the article itself.
I think the answers to most of these questions lie in the fact that this was posted in the #funny and #satire tag. I get the impression this was not meant to engender any real discussion on gender roles and male/female interpersonal situations.
As I said in my previous response:
"Think of it like reading Cracked.com (where this article could probably be posted with few edits) or stand-up comedy, where the formula is:
Kernel of truth (often optional) + expansion to humorous proportions = funny for some people subjectively."
The kernel of truth that this article is based on is the "gyno-centrism" running the west, where women:
Get Title IX and discrimination protection that men don't.
Get alimony that men generally don't.
Child support that men generally don't.
Automatic presumption of "being the better parent" in custody battles.
Vastly lighter sentencing for all crimes.
Numerous scholarships, minority training programs, and various other advantages.
Preferred admissions to college (look at the gender splits, you will see that all else equal, women are now preferred.)
Each of those is indisputable, established fact. The creator of this platform Ned partially made Steemit BECAUSE he was divorced raped for over half his after tax salary each month in alimony. (His wife decided that his questioning of the government and church and interest in cryptocurrency was good enough reason to steal his children and more than half his salary).
These are the kernels of truth that make this (admittedly, basically gallows) humor funny to those of us who are regularly being discriminated against in the west now. I have worked in the family courts in the US and let me tell you, it is a grim spectacle that will make you question your faith in people's basic goodness.
Thank you for taking the time to write a thoughtful response. I would be happy to discuss any of this further as time allows.
There was no particular hominem I was aiming at. I probably should have just walked on by anyway.
This post may be misogynistic, but it's also obvious comedy that exaggerates a truth to shine a light on it. Misandry has gone mainstream in Western culture, and this post is an example of the inevitable backlash that comes from radical feminist's anti-male bigotry. The difference between the Mad Goat and modern day feminism, is the Mad Goat is mostly joking, while feminists are seriously demanding the oppression of men.
Yeah, I just got done with a forced discrimination retraining at work. The "gender discrimination section", like all others, had 3 varied examples of discrimination. All of them were for not hiring women for some reason or another.
They literally do not even admit that men can be discriminated against. Discrimination against men is actively encouraged. It is game-theory-correct to fire a white man first, as he is the only one who cannot sue you for some form of bullshit discrimination.
You lost me when you wrote about ''keeping that bitch happy''.
That was referencing a popular Chris Rock standup routine. It's in the first 45 seconds of this video. The females in the audience seemed to think it was funny.
haha yea I remember seeing this video. He makes it work by making it funny.
Your words wound me.
Well, we wouldn't want to distract you from 100% self-upvoting your 11 word comments, would we?