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i don't need your mountain of nonsense. bring something hear that proves we need it.

Of course you don't need evidence or data. Most cults don't.

you can get a PhD in honey without ever tasting it, live your whole life in theory, that is how it is with globe earth evidence.

so I say bring forth you 'evidence' that relates back to concrete facts that we can look at.

right now the 'proof' of a globe earth mostly relies on NASA (not a space agency.. lol) I'd like you to answer why the founder of NASA has the founderNASA.jpg PSALMS 19:1 which just happens to be about the earth having a firmament.

The heavens declare the glory of God; and the firmament sheweth his handywork. - PSALMS 19:1

if you take away NASA there is very little 'evidence' left.

Of course, all we have to do is "take away" all the evidence that disproves the flat earth and presto, you have a chance. Its a shame that data and observations can't be disqualified because you don't like them. :-)

P.S. The earth was known to be round a long time before NASA rolled around.

Sculpture of Atlas hold a globe earth circa 150 bc

Sculpture of Atlas hold a globe earth circa 150 bc

yes, the conspiracy to make the earth round is literally that old. thanks for pointing it out.

why did the founder of nasa put that on his tombstone?

I never knew the man, but my guess is that he liked space and wanted a biblical quote about what he enjoyed in life.

If this is your sort of evidence for a flat earth, then I am laughing and laughing
:-D

i'm more amused at how you gloss over it. the man literally quotes the one quote in the bible about there being a firmament, and you pretend it means nothing.

you probably don't believe conspiracy even exist, as if all our governments are for the greater good, all wars make perfect sense. (or what I really believe, you know it all too well to be true and seek to hide it)

i only speak to because others read this, i know i'm wasting my time if to convince you where my goal. you aren't and independent mind, you are NOT SCIENTIFIC in your approach.

and if you believe the globe earth needs protecting from people like me... lol..

ahh, love you brother, i'm sorry for you that you think you need to do what you are doing. (i think you are a slave, at least i'm doing this of my own free will) if i am wrong, let it be so, there is no harm in it. there are people that are wrong all the time, yet you work so hard to convince me, even changes your methods, but never once, in my opinion, using real scientific methods.

and you think this:

eclipse path.jpg

makes sense... lol. seriously, talk about laughing until nearly dying.

Really? the ONLY quote in the bible about a firmament? I can think of about 19, and I am falling down drunk.

When you have an idea and dismiss anything that disproves it as fake or conspiracy, this is the essence of the scientific method?

The path of the eclipse is easily explained by the standard model. How does the flat earth explain it?

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