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RE: The Question No Flat Earther Can Answer!

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I never claimed vaccines make someone instantly immune to a disease, or that T cells are the most common immune response. This is not the body works. I also never claimed to be smarter than you, or that doctors have bigger brains than you. I have taken multiple biology courses and the professors who have spent their lives studying biology are smarter than you. They are smarter than me too.

There is no reason you can't research for yourself. You cannot proclaim yourself an expert however, when it's pretty blatant that you're not. It almost seems like you are making stuff up at this point. You are the one being both ignorant and arrogant. You are the one who thinks he knows everything.

If you are unwilling to listen to my side of the argument I am not willing to listen to yours. I am well educated enough to know that vaccines causing autism is a massively unproven conspiracy theory.

You cannot claim that vaccinations do not help eradicate disease. How did small pox or polio get eradicated?

This means that natural immune system affords 98% of the early response to an infectious disease agent, while the adaptive or memory-based protective response that vaccination seeks to stimulate represents only 2% of early response.

I wasn't claiming that we don't have immune systems. It makes sense that most pathogens are killed through your typical immune response. You have not given any evidence that vaccines do not play a crucial role in disease protection.

You continue to speak as though everything you say is fact. You are trapped inside the arrogance of your own mind, your ego.

Best of luck breaking out.

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I did think like you once before
Times have changed! I have a group of over 6,000 people and growing.
I know some smart people helping with AIDS , cancer , Lyme and helping with Autism . I can give you thousands of references and stories but you will not listen . I been studying and writing for 25 years . Too many dead babies in my group from vaccination! SIDS
Paid compensation for death ! Paid meaning in court they won to prove death was from vaccination .
Autism from vaccination!
"Unavoidably Unsafe"

There are some 5,000 petitions alleging a causal link between certain vaccines and autism spectrum disorders that are currently pending in an omnibus proceeding in the Court of Federal Claims (Vaccine Court).
https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/10pdf/09-152.pdf

I Have 100's of testimonials to prove this ! We got agent orange out of a military vet in 24 hours ! Cured cancer in Breast cancer patient and found a nanobot!

I'm done here I could go ono and on

You have your mind made up
I changed my mind long time ago
I was once you !
Now it is me (truth train) vs big pHARMa that don't care about our well being
They just want us all on drugs

Example

Autistic conditions can result from acute disseminated encephalomyelitis (ADEM) following MMR vaccination as held by the US Federal Court in the case of Bailey Banks. In his conclusion, US Federal Court Special Master Abell ruled that Petitioners had proven that the MMR had directly caused a brain inflammation illness called acute disseminated encephalomyelitis (ADEM) which, in turn, had caused the autism spectrum disorder PDD-NOS in the child:
The Court found that Bailey’s ADEM was both caused-in-fact and proximately caused by his vaccination. It is well-understood that the vaccination at issue can cause ADEM, and the Court found, based upon a full reading and hearing of the pertinent facts in this case, that it did actually cause the ADEM. Furthermore, Bailey’s ADEM was severe enough to cause lasting, residual damage, and retarded his developmental progress, which fits under the generalized heading of Pervasive Developmental Delay, or PDD [an autism spectrum disorder]. The Court found that Bailey would not have suffered this delay but for the administration of the MMR vaccine, and that this chain of causation was… a proximate sequence of cause and effect leading inexorably from vaccination to Pervasive Developmental Delay.
[Banks v. HHS (Case 02-0738V, 2007 U.S. Claims LEXIS 254, July 20, 2007)].

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Another example in which you have given NONE ! And you studied and went to school ?

Vaccinating with human body parts can cause the recipient to produce antibodies to human tissue. Children produce antibodies to every component of the vaccine, and not simply the viruses. This can cause demylination of the nerves and auto-immune disorders. Children who have been vaccinated with MMR and later suffered autism have been found to have antibodies to their own brain tissue, and this may be a consequence of using foetal tissue in MMR. ‘Susana C. Silva, Catarina Correia and Astrid M. Vicente at the Instituto Gulbenkian de Ciência, Oeiras, Portugal and colleagues studied the blood of a large sample of individuals - 171 patients, 191 parents and 54 healthy controls - and report that autistic patients are in fact characterised by presenting in their blood high levels of non-inherited antibodies against the body’s brain tissue.’ (Dr Catarina Amorim; Journal of Neuroimmunology; Instituto Gulbenkian de Ciência, Observatório da Ciência e do Ensino Superior, Portugal; July 23, 2004).

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Because I can post for hours

AUTISM ?

Contamination from VACCINES!
Remember they are ALL contaminated

You will remember this conversation one day I promise

The worldwide increase in the diagnosis of autism and autistic spectrum disorder (ASD) together with increasing reports of a regressive onset has caused many to argue that the condition should no longer be viewed as solely, or even mainly, genetic in origin, environmental factors must be implicated, particularly those of bacterial or viral genesis. Pathogenic substances entering the bodies and/or bloodstream (vaccination) of developing children merit consideration and investigation in the search for causation.
The witness and evidence of parents may provide persuasive clues.

Mitochondrial Disorder
In the United States, in a landmark judgement, it was decreed that a child (Hannah Poling) had developed autistic symptoms following multiple vaccinations, including MMR.
―What's unique about Hannah's case is that for the first time federal authorities conceded a connection between her autistic symptoms and the vaccines she received, though the connection is by no means simple. A panel of medical evaluators at the Department of Health and Human Services concluded that Hannah had been injured by vaccines — and recommended that her family be compensated for the injuries. The panel said that Hannah had an underlying cellular disorder that was aggravated by the vaccines, causing brain damage with features of autism spectrum disorder (ASD).
In Hannah‘s case, the vaccine court determined that the underlying dysfunction of her mitochondria puts her at an increased risk of injury from vaccines‖. (35)
Interestingly, there is scientific information available to show that Mitochondrial disease is common in autistic patients and that Mycoplasmas affect the function of mitochondria. In fact Mycoplasma infection competes with the mitochondria and infects the cells containing mitochondria and the mitochondria themselves. (36) (37)
Mitochondrial malfunction can be a symptom of Mycoplasma infection!

  1. Huffington Post article. David Kirby author. 02/25/08 http://www.huffingtonpost.com/david-kirby/government-concedes-vacci_b_88323.html
  2. Mitochondrial Disease in Autism Spectrum Disorder Patients: A Cohort Analysis Weissman JR, et al. (2008). PLoS ONE 3(11): e3815. doi:10.1371/journal.pone.0003815
  3. Stephen Harrod Buhner, Healing Lyme Disease Infections. ISBN 978-162055-008-3

Recent research in the United States has revealed that decreased tryptophan metabolism which may alter brain development, neuroimmune activity and mitochondrial function, was found in patients with ASD.(59)

You will remember this conversation one day I promise

Do you think it will one day be uncovered that vaccines cause autism? It won't.

I am sorry you have this mindset. It will clearly never be changed. Good luck keeping your sanity

Been uncovered
Proved it !
People have been compensated in court.
Do you even read what I have provided?
I don't need luck I have knowledge and understanding

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