SCAMMER ALERT! A Fraudster is Using Lucksacks Name - Please Help Us Spread the Word!
A person on Steemit using the name @chiefmappster is going on podcasts with @officialfuzzy and who knows who else, claiming he is a part of "Lucksacks" and lying saying we are merging with some other website.
This person @chiefmappster has NO AFFILIATION with Lucksacks.com or the Steem Poker League.
This person is apparently trying to raise money for his own project by pretending to be a part of other projects, using their names in interviews where whales are asked to invest or donate to the project. Not only did he misrepresent himself as being a part of Lucksacks on more than one occasion, he did it to another project as well in the same interview.
If you run a podcast for the Steemit Community, please do due diligence prior to having people on to talk about projects. Letting sociopaths run amok claiming to be running other peoples projects to raise money for themselves is not cool.
I don't think it's fair to blame fuzzy for interviewing someone, but I do think it'd be appropriate to remove @chiefmappster's audio segments from soundcloud if this is legit.
What ever happened to the exonn deal that chiefmappster was ranting about a few weeks ago? Lol..
Thank you cm-steem. Its kind of sad that the community I help so much prefers to attack me instead of help me...
I guess energy wasted on their part...considering every other whale wants to "lease" them steempower for money while i give it out willingly in the knowledge that as long as THE MAJORITY is not abused, it is a huge benefit to the system.
I don't see anyone attacking you, we're just asking questions and answering questions. You're the only person so far in this discussion that has made what appears to be a threat towards someone, just sayin'. ;)
Many are attacking him
Who?? I spoke to Fuzzy at length last night... is someone still attacking him??
You were directly blaming fuzzy though (which can be perceived as an attack) when the real person everyone should be annoyed at is cheifmappster. It's often very difficult to moderate these hangouts for hours on end, especially when accused individuals are intentionally deceiving the entire community.
I think it's appropriate to request audio being taken down, and for repeated offenders to be blacklisted from speaking (for x weeks) but requiring background checks for every speaker is likely not possible given the often last minute nature of speakers RSVP posts.
If users post RSVPs in advance (unlike this situation) then we can all do our part in verifying the post's legitimacy.
Where? I see around 5 places where I either accepted responsibility for not telling fuzzy about our issues with chiefmappster sooner or specifically saying I did not blame fuzzy for chiefmappsters actions.
This is the first I've heard of "requiring background checks".
That seems a bit overboard when all anyone's asked for is that a show raising funds for projects verify that the person speaking is part of the project for which they claim to be representing.
But if that's too much trouble, then listener's beware I guess and all the projects that get screwed over can just deal with the backlash created because ... who's got time? :|
If there will be no screening I hope that at some point there is some data to show how many projects actually produced a viable product after receiving support versus those that just took the money in a deceitful manner and ran off and/or damaged another project in the process.
Fuzzy knows me, he knows I run Lucksacks. I can't believe he didn't question this guy or ask me; and I believe I may have even said something to fuzzy about my issues with this guy, if I didn't I meant to.
I of course don't blame @officialfuzzy for this guys actions. I worked with fuzzy for a good while.
But, I do blame fuzzy for not having someone vetting the people speaking on a podcast where people are trying to raise money!
Stop it before it starts. Fuzzy, you're holding a podcast where people pitch projects for others to upvote. I understand you maybe don't think it's your responsibility to see if what these people are claiming is true or not prior to letting them talk, but I disagree.
I think you DO have responsibility to do that Fuzzy, and not just because this particular podcast had someone using my projects name without permission and misrepresenting themselves as someone speaking for my project, and lying about us merging with a website, and lying that some other person has some script that runs our site, and lying that we're shutting down operations AND has been profiting off of my projects name/images/content for months ...
but you owe it to your listeners so that they know the people you are talking to are actually with the project they claim to be representing ... at the least dude. People listen to your show to support worthwhile projects, at the least make sure the people you're talking to have something to do with the project.
All it would take was a quick message to any one of us.
I agree with your thoughts in principle, but so it's clear - Chief was NOT signed up to speak about SPL or anything gaming/casino related last Saturday and was not invited by @Bethalea to speak during her Community Casino project time. He interrupted her time and starting talking about. He was scheduled only to speak about his own Music League project. So his claims with Lucksacks was not something Fuzzy would have known was coming or had time to check before hand.
Also, I am editing the full audio and video from this Whaletank today to remove that topic by chief. This will just be on the full finals I publish, the original raws will be untouched so it is there for the record.
Thanks I downloaded the unedited version.
I feel that Fuzzy should have had someone who was - as you said - NOT signed up to speak with/for me, not. speak. for me. That is very surely his responsibility.
is it? is it my responsibility? when is it yours?
Aren't ALL OF YOU GIVEN TOKENS FOR FREE TO HELP YOUR PROJECTS?
Does it help your project if our hangouts become a shitshow? Really easy I see to lay the blame on the guy who pays you guys for simply joining and actively participating.
I have an idea beth...how about you write a post about the good stuff i do instead of blaming this on me?
Not to add more fuel to the fire but he caused issues with the #rapchallenge created by @rondonson. Apparently he stole the ideas for his music and beat challenge from @rondonson, logos and everything.
I've been viewing his actions from afar and tried not to be biasis but after this, the exon mobil and what ron told me I think it's pretty clear what is going on with this guy...
This is something I didn't know.. Hmmm.. As you can see I've been judging the beat battle for some time now and this week's edition is promoting a remix contest for my latest single.. I do hope y'all don't see me in a negative light for my not being made aware of these things.. Anyway, this is all very interesting to read. Would have been nice to see if earlier but it is what it is..
Nope don't see you in a negative light at all dude. This guy trys to use people to his advantage. I just feel that he wants to get popular on steemit by any means necessary.
@berniesanders has been trolling him hard and said he won't stop until he comes clean. I don't really support his method but he brought it upon himself. I've seen his past post where he makes vauge threats about lawyers and knowing people who work in the Treasury (threat against @ned).
What really convinced me that this dude is not playing with a full deck is during @officalfuzzy whaletank pod cast he claimed that he knew somone at exon mobile and they were going to adpot his POINTS cryptocurrency. Why would a billion dollar company hop on a crypto made by some random dude?!?! If anything they have enough money and resources to do it themselves.
I knew that too, but Ron seemed like he moved on from it, so I didn't think it would be worth my energy. But I really could not stand this guy. I'm just glad others see it now.
Yea ron took the high road. I showed him this post and it vindicated what he went though with him. He didn't have to say a word. It's one of the main reasons I'm a judge now.
Wow this is quite the read. And if I may, there are quite a lot of people that are caught in the crossfire, that do not even know about this. I just found out myself as well. I have been participating in these contests, and this is well... crazy that this has been going for this long. I surely hope that everyone here does not hold those of us that have been participating accountable.
If he is indeed scamming, why is he still around?
I don't know all the history of these problems, but it does not look good on those of us that have been unaware, and taking part. And I just started a project 2 weeks ago, and he suggested that I go on the Whaletank to get funding. I have had no personal issues with him thus far. And I got paid for winning with no issues either. You all need to get this thing settled privately without anyone else getting caught up in this.
Sorry to rant at ya BTW. :-)
Just a lil bothered by the whole thing.
Have a great day. :-)
Well he is persistent if anything. He has been paying out to his contestants but I'm iffy on the Vegas trip. He might do it out of his own pocket who knows. I didn't get to involved in my interactions with him so I guess he didn't scam me perse. I doing think he could find a real "in" with me so he moved on. We will jsut have to wait and see how this plays out.
Yep, time will tell. ;-) All I know is, I love making music. And if people can dig it, then I am good ta go. All I am asking, is for everyone to watch out for collateral damage. I am new here, and I feel at home, and plan on keeping that way for a long time.
Have a great day my friend :-)
Thanks for speaking up!
Yea... I felt like I had to as a lot of people are taking part in his steemit music league challenge. He is claiming that the winner of the challenge will get a trip to Las Vegas. I really hope he is able to deliver for the sake of his reputation but judging from all of this I doubt he will be able to...
I hope I can help him come through with that trip to Vegas by publicly challenging him by saying ...
IT'S NEVER GOING TO FUCKING HAPPEN!
HE WILL LIKELY RUN OFF WITH ALL OF THE MONEY.
=)
Thanks for speaking up!
Agree with this 100%. It's not like it would have been hard to contact you to confirm that he was part of the actual SPL team. The fact that bethalea had to set the record straight in the middle of the segment should have been embarrassing for the show. But I heard no attempt being made to get the truth out of the fraudster.
If the idea of the show is to have people on to pitch their projects for potential investors, the very least you could do is actually verify that their project is legit...and that it's theirs in the first place.
This is pretty amateur stuff right here. Can't say I'm suprised though. Seems to be the norm around these parts.
thanks, @ats-david
After speaking with bethelea this came frim a misunderstanding and am glad to inform everyone it has been cleared up. I made mistakes and it is important to note this. I will put my best into improving.
Nothing else will change for the record on this as it is important ti keep transparency of my own misgivings and failures. This was, however, a big misunderstanding at its roots. Sorry beth. We are good to go and i am glad you took the time to help iron this out in voice comms.
the sad thing bethalea is that even though i've paid you, you prefer support someone who attaches this drama to me instead of actively helping PROVE this guy screwed you.
When I went and checked, he did lots of work for YOUR project and there WAS proof.
So how you can jump on the bandwagon of the guy who STARTED the attacks on Whaleshares community as though I somehow let this shit happen is beyond me. I pay people for joining and proving themselves over time (or making an ass of themselves over time).
The Beauty of this: ITS TOTALLY TRANSPARENT
I NEVER said i wouldn't get scammed by doing something grassroots that REQUIRES trust in and help from a community. Guess what, crypto is FULL of them. Its just like helping you has also brought drama that is unnecessary. But do you see me blaming you?? OR HELPING YOU? Jesus...
What is really funny though is that ATS supports steemspeak which is RUN by a person I have RECORDINGS of lying, and for whom we all have Proof of his PHYSICAL threats on people on steem....
But this is ok and ATS-david completely supports it...
Talk about due diligence...
what a joke..
She didn't cause it, the sociopath @chiefmappster you support did and he's doing it at projects all over Steemit. Perhaps, stop supporting him Fuzzy? :)
Well of course tuck. Did u see me saying this to you? Heck no because u didnt blame me. Neither do i blame you for not telling me. We are all BOUND to make mistakes...the problem with this is that she 100% agrees with what ats said. Which is total bullshit. And by so doing she jumps on the bandwagon of attacking me.
Why is the onus on me at all? I pass out tokens to people and when they gain trust they can earn more for joining up and showing progress.
I mean heck maybe i should charge people to join and go sell out...then call it "vetting" when good projects dont get seen because "I vetted them" and "just trust me".
INSTEAD i turn the whole damn thing on its head...and still complaints and attacks.
Ask beth what i was about to fund for her man...
Wow i actually reached out to her to INVITE HER BACK because i didnt want the shit between her and chief to take away opportunities for her. Apparently this is all my bad though...
Oh btw...while u guys bitch about me...perhaps u should ALL be looking into the Real shit on steemit...
The kibd of shit that has people threatening to hack me because we are looking into their corruption...
Naw. Screw it. Attack fuzzy. Its mentally far easier than actually fucking helping.
This was my heinous "attack" -
And all I have seen in defense of this carelessness - or apparently unwillingness to do so - is:
"It's not my job!"
Dude...it's your show. At the end of the day, it all falls back on you: the sign-ups, the vetting, the moderating, and the issuing of tokens. Your show. Your responsibility. You can delegate that responsibility to your staff, but if they fail, then the failure is yours.
You failed. It's time to act like a grown up and hold yourself accountable instead of lashing out at everyone or threatening them with more of your "I'm doing blockchain forensics on you!" bullshit.
dude. all i said was 'thanks david'...this is jumping on some sort of attack bandwagon?
You obviously have some prior beef with @ats.david that i have zero to do with, zero knowledge of, and zero fucks to give. I simply appreciated his support.
Well i would have appreciated you saying "thanks for the support but to be honest its not fuzzies fault. When chief started talking about being part of it, you let him speak.
Do yourself a big favor...and go listen to it again. Then please consider maybe just maybe there is no reason for you to complain about a single thing.
I dm'd you and emailed you twice to talk about this situation and you said nothing.
And now we are talking only because i appreciated someone saying something in support of how awful i feel about this whole thing.
I have no idea what you want from me and feel like you are still throwing me under the bus instead of saying that your friend, @chiefmappster, was out of line and that being as its your podcast, maybe you had a responsibility to me.
What is actually funny is that @ats-david doesn't "support SteemSpeak." Don't confuse occasional use with "support."
And - as a matter of fact - I have mentioned on many occasions the disgust I have when people threaten physical harm against others because of social media disagreements or token prices/manipulation...as has happened in SteemSpeak. If you're not sure about my standing in that channel, perhaps do your homework and ask the people who frequent that channel.
So we now have proof that you don't bother with due diligence for people who go on your show and ask for funding for "their" projects and we have proof that you don't bother with due diligence for those people who point out your prior lack of due diligence. I'm just hoping for a little bit of effort from you in the future.
If you're going to run a show that purports to give out funding for projects, the very least you could do is verify that they are actually running or involved with a project - as I stated in my original comment. All of these other deflections and distractions tell me that you have no interest in not supporting frauds. Accept some responsibility and hold yourself accountable. I imagine that's what people would want to see from a so-called "leader" in the community.
Again u are wrong and have no clue why i do this. Which is hilarious because you make such judgements and apparently never even listen to our hangouts.
Its easy to criticize buddy. Do yourself a favor and shut up. You are in no place to judge me. This is truth whether you like it or not.
Oh and btw its not a podcast. Its a community that openly grows and gives wealth to fallible people. Those who choose to do wrong will be found out in time. There is NOTHING wrong with showing you dont have to be perfect to make abhuge difference.
Funny though. For all your dick words toward me never...have i seen a positive comment. Odd how that works eh?
Finally - something we agree on.
I have yet to find anything from you worthy of such a positive comment towards you. This entire comment section seems to validate that.
I did not bring the drama, @chiefmappster did. This is yet another place your clarity is failing you, @officialfuzzy.
My clarity? You guys come on without much clarity yourselves right? And i have offered to substantially help you and give you all a chance to prove yourselves in an OPEN and TRANSPARENT way...and GET PAID for it! And this is what I get for it? Maybe I should just "Lease steempower" eh? Because apparently that is how to get ahead...
Jeez beth...
Can you be honest and say this is a little unfair to me??
LOL...
Yeh blame it on me for having a Transparent and open podcast where even frauds eventually get called out. I see you calling noone out who is a fraud in steemspeak (and i promise to readers there are many).
ATS...you are about to look like a real ass in the coming weeks/months. That is such a big promise. :)
the saddest part is you will deserve every little bit.
Fuzzy, above you're saying my friend @bethalea has brought drama into your life somehow, which is not the case afaict. @chiefmappster brought it and he brought it to various other projects including my own.
(Anyone continuing to support that guy is part of the problem with Steemit.)
So it's odd to read you say to her that she is bringing drama into your life, while here you are below publicly issuing a ... "threat" seems harsh, I'll go with "statement indicating future events that will be detrimental to another human being".
Seems a bit ... dramatic ... dare I say. ;)
My reply to his rebuttal :
https://steemit.com/spl/@chiefmappster/469fiq-greatness-adapts-but-love-wins#@tuck-fheman/re-chiefmappster-469fiq-greatness-adapts-but-love-wins-20170925t234343594z
At 5:35 into the soundcloud recording He directly implies that he is part of lucksacks.com control structure and he has the authority to take it to a new platform. WTF
Yup.
Well it is good to know. He was officially the first guy I blocked in Steemit and he was being racist to me in poker tables !
The more profitable cryptocurrency becomes the more scamsters we are going to attract. Everyone needs to put their due diligence hats on now! I always say with "metta," instead of namaste...if they don't know what metta means I know they are full of shit...hahaha blasted namasters :P j/k sortof
Resteemed. Thanks for calling out this asshole. Lucksacks is one of the best things here on steemit. Thanks for all the hard work you put into it.
Resteemed and upvoted!
Votes for the hard work of SPL!
agreed
You know, I never said one word to this guy after he showed me his true face. I believe i might have been the first guy to deal with this prick.
Im glad I never had to say anything and all of this still came out. One love bro, goodluck with the poker league
Thanks man, good luck with your project!
Bahaha! Good to see this guy being called out for what he is. I got into an argument with him over posting the exact same post twice in a week. The first one only got like $8, so he posted again and got $50 the second time. Tried to justify it by saying exposure is the key to whatever new shitcoin he made and was trying to sell.