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@alexgr I swear I posted this one already, but I'm not seeing where I did. So I thought I would give this to you because it felt relevant. If you've seen me post it somewhere before let me know and I'll delete this comment. So assuming you haven't seen this, consider keeping a large stack of them on hand. :D

@moonjelly not commentary on you, just @alexgr has been mentioning butt hurt a lot lately. I thought he might like a handy meme.

I'll need at least two pens to fill that one!

Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! :D Great Stuff!!!!

So what? it's true. Don't you just want to punch Justin Bieber in the face? Do you really think Twilight novels are well written and deserve their own movie trilogy? Good for them? F* them!

It's bullshit and we all know it, I don't give a shit anymore, I'm not voting any more stupid nonsense from now on just to get some SP. It will be worth nothing in a month if this continues.

I'll definitely downvote the shit out of bullshit if I could.

I don't know if it's true. That's what courts are there for. The justice system is supposed to sort "scams" and either clear or sentence the accused. Are there any accusers? If yes, why aren't they filing a lawsuit to take multiple times their money - if they were scammed? The US legal system is full of this stuff (in other countries it's less so).

@alexgr Because the sale doesn't occur in the USA. There are plenty of people both satisfied and dissatisfied with his services. It really depends upon the amount of fear you allow yourself to feel and the relief you get from someone else making it go away.

But since he does these at conferences on foreign soil, US consumer protection laws don't apply. Even if they did I highly doubt this is the type of thing you could sue for. You pay money to hear someone speak. They give you advice, some books and try to sell you a "package". If you don't want the package no one is forcing it on you. If you do buy the package all they have to do is deliver the requested products, which also include more "advanced" stuff and some "one on one" sessions.

It's all in all not that bad. Every motivational speaker works exactly this same way.
People forget that the key to self improvement is that you improve yourself. Once you start doing that, then you don't need Jeff or anyone else.

Anyways, my comment still stands. We need barkers and he's a good barker.

You know what they say about self help books right? The only ones helping themselves and making money are the authors.

I meant low quality post and content. There's plenty of accusations on him online and we can't know for sure what's going on. This post is more about the current voting system and how wrong it is to give attention (and money) to mediocre posts.

The flaw in your argument is that his posts are not low quality. They are well-written, carefully edited, easy to understand, nicely formatted, and are effective in connecting with the reader. If there is no steak to his sizzle then I guess people might lose interest and his rewards will stop, or they might not (after all, the later Twilight movies and books still did quite well).

I couldn't follow the case you were making against him in your post, which doesn't mean that the accusations aren't true, but it most certainly does mean that your posts are not as good as his.

No they are not, at least not 15k worth, I will take that to the grave if I have to. But if you want to justify that, go ahead.

I didn't make a case about him. The case is against the voting system. English is not my native language so I'm trying to do my best, maybe you can understand me perfectly but there are cultural differences that sometimes doesn't translate that well.

@moonjelly

@smooth ... with his 24 accounts

Incorrect. In fact I have thousands of accounts (keep that in mind when you are advocating for more "fair" voting) but I only vote with two of them, smooth/smooth.witness. Any other bots you see copying my votes (and there are some) are not mine.

I explained the reason I didn't vote for this post and it isn't because it is critical of Steem/it or the voting system (I have voted for critical posts before). It is because the post does not effectively present a clear message. It is not a high quality post in my (subjective) opinion.

If English is not your native language, then start building a steemit community IN YOUR LANGUAGE. And for fuck's sake, stop with the entitlement and jealousy crap, the world is unfair, the system is broken, yadda yadda yadda. It's really tiresome and pathetic. Figure out how to be successful and get it done. Stop trying to drag everyone else down.

Yeah his posts may be well laid out but 10k dollars? If people like Jeff are getting all the upvotes and the average Joe that writes a good article gets 2 upvotes and $0.00 then how can this website not eventually implode?

Because our friend @smooth here is busy voting him with his 24 accounts but not voting this or many other forgotten posts (this already has too much payout if you ask me, but not enough votes because it should be trending so everyone can see).

To be fair, there are plenty of amazing and honest working people here @jesta @piedpiper @mynameisbrian @stellabelle @roelandp @cass and many others.

They still don't deserve those obscene, gimmicky payouts but I do love them!

I'm not denying the butthurt though, but I won't ever accept bullshit for gold.

I have an issue with the character of some members ! This "DollarBILLMan" has no soul and is not humble . I wish for people with more depth . Just my personal preference what kind of people I like or find annoying . He is one of those I rather would avoid . I don't want his advice . Has nothing to do with butthurt

Exactly my point, thanks for your comment and support. There were a handful of people voicing their concerns in a sea of so called fans. But now the tides are turning...I can smell bs from miles away and I'm sure there are many that upvotes just for the curation rewars, not because the posts are "well written" or formatted. Half didn't even bother to read them, they already know he is making money so if they upvote that's instant rewards for them too.

His last post turned out into zero minus zero !

There were a lot of great posts much better than mine criticizing his behavior. He already got his money but I'm very surprised and glad to see that there's power in our votes after all.

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