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It's funny what sort of things have been coming to mind while going on this crazy adventure. The overwhelming responses to my post, the many responses by the community in other areas in support of SBI, the things that have come forth about @josephsavage, the blatant attacks without any evidence to back up claims made - these are the things that make me want to take a stand. I'm willing to see this to the end so I committed myself further.

I've never been very good at staying down when being stepped on.

I'm here to support another 200 hundred of you. So, according to this post, I'll be DVed well over 100%. I'm wondering if you guys will join me because what I find extremely funny is imagining him going through 200 people who support sbi and DVing us. However, if one does the math, he can't hit us all if we all do at least 20 sbi (which is equal to a couple of dollars at the time of writing this) or more and the time and energy it takes to do that makes it all the more funny to me. What about you? - Maybe send one sbi to each person you send it to so he has to count! This is so very funny to me.

Maybe you can't do that. My best guess is you're already doing the best that you can with what you are working with. Maybe you can help in other ways. For example, could some of you counter the dv he gives me and others? I'm not asking for anything more than what he is taking away. That would be awesome. Perhaps a delegation? Whatever you think of and do is fine with me.

Thanks for your time. Thanks for pressing on. Thanks for the work that you do.

Enjoy the gift!

p.s. Please, support others and not just me as this will help to cull us into one large group that can take on these attacks.

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I happened to be wandering around on Steem this evening and saw where you had sent me some SBI. And then I saw why. I am one of the little fish that has amazing original content (my own opinion of course) and is excited when I can get a post to have more than just a few dollars worth of upvotes on it. I have been gifted sbi in multiple contests and through community support in communities that support me because my content is original. I have sponsored my teenage homeschool children with sbi because i support them using this platform to create substantive original content instead of flaky shallow social media crap. Now one of the communities I am in is being attacked for using sbi by the mmmmk dude, but hes clearly just being a jerk to use his downvoting power to pick on groups like ours that are using sbi to reward original content and to help each other out. I mean, if he was only downvoting sbi being used as support for crap content, I could understand, but that's not the case. So,I was inspired by your post here and your actions. I did not send you any sbi @tristancarax because you have plenty, and I am such a small fish I could only spend 6 steem on sbi shares today. What I did instead was send 6 steem total to sponsor three steem users. Original content is of course a non-negotiable critera here, so it's not really how I decided who I could help. The first person I sponsored was @reinaldoverdu because I saw his comment on here and I know damn good and well anyone in Venezuela deserves as much help as the rest of the world can give them to survive the current state of affairs. I looked at his feed and I feel good about supporting him, paying it forward to him! I also sponsored @josevas217 because I like what he's doing. @toukirahmed was my third person to sponsor this evening. This user I have recently discovered and really love the photography. Bangladesh is a long way from me, but if a small act of kindness on the internet can bring a smile to someone across the planet, then I am in. Thanks for helping to encourage people to support each other and thanks for standing up to a bigger fish who is attacking the little fish.

I'm hoping people support others and not just me, as that would not gather the masses needed to overcome this minor annoyance. So, thank you for supporting others. They most likely deserve it.

I know for me that when I started getting an sbi vote, no matter has small it was, that made me happy that I was getting some support from somewhere. This place can seem pretty empty at first. After time, people are willing to give for someone else's work. Most of us don't make what we are worth, but the little amount that we do get may make our day and help us continue to improve day by day.

I'm through with talking directly with mmkk for the moment. He has shown his true colors and people like this need to crawl back under the rock the came from. They are a drain to everyone around them.

Thanks for your help. This is a group effort and will only succeed as one.

Hahahaha!!! The mmmmk asshole is now wasting his downvotes on my tiny little plankton posts, because I need punished for sponsoring other people on SBI I think have good content! Way to show me who's boss on Steem. Vote me down for my original, well thought out content because I support SBI helping the community.
Thanks for the idea and the work @tristacarax to stand up to bullies.

Yes, you buy for others, he punishes you. He was going after everyone but that didn't work out so ... yeah. "We have what we have here, which is a failure to communicate. Some men you just can't reach so you get what we have here." - I've got Guns N' Roses going through my head again. haha

Teamworks makes this place work. Glad to have you around.

Now you are just fucking with me...because Cool Hand Luke is my all time favorite movie.
I like you even more now. :-)
What's really great is right this second I can hear G'n'R's Paradise City playing in @cassidydawn's room while she's crafting some amazing gift for someone. She's one of my @steemagers.

One last interesting thing to me ~ The bully mmmmk has 93 of his own SBI he's so against it...not to mention a ton of minnowbooster leases...maybe he should just give those to me since he hates "buying upvotes"!!!

8-)

MMKK got though because people bought them for him. He apparently HATES getting free money, which is really, really weird but whatever.

Yeah, right. Why is minnowbooster so great?

Thank you very much about the Gifts :) Thank you for your support :) Have a nice day

sent 1sbi unit you way, @tristancarax. blessings!

Thank you!

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Such a great idea! Haha Honestly, Steemit is build on freedom and SBI is such a positive way to exploit this freedom. Thanks for the SBI will find some time to do the same 😂

One log at a time ...

I'm sorry for my late reply, but I wanted to wait for this weeks result of the Engagement and Curation League, where I sponsor a lucky number every week. I have sent 5 SBI and now I am waiting for some nice 100% downvotes like I have got quite a few before 😉

Thanks a lot for the SBI - I hope when that funny guy sees that the community stands together he will start thinking ... never give up hope and confidene 😊

Merry Christmas my friend, may you have some calm and peaceful Christmas days.

No need to be sorry. 5 = 25% dv by him so you're all good. haha

I've received a few 100% dv myself (patting myself on the back).

I hope when that funny guy sees that the community stands together he will start thinking

This is precisely what I'm hoping for as well.

Happy Winter Solstice. May the return of the sun bring you warmth.

Good morning @tristancarax🙂

You were right, I have got 5 25% downvotes on one post, Steem and also 4 tokens including PAL. That's crazy, but better than last time, when I also transferred 5 SBI and got 2 100% downvotes on two posts.
But hey, it's Christmas and if I could make him happy today I am happy too 😉

I wish you Merry Christmas and calm and peaceful Christmas days 🙂


I know, it's !DERANGED to give !BEER at Christmas, but the !MARLIANS in the !shop didn't have !COFFEEA 😉

haha!!! He continues to show his intellengce by shooting himself in the foot.

I'm glad that he has stuck to his dictate. But as dictators go, they change on a whim.

Right, I wonder how long this farce will be going on, and I do hope SBI will stay.
Now, that I know how he downvotes, it will be much easier for me to send SBI ;)


I know, it's !DERANGED to give !BEER at Christmas, but the !MARLIANS in the !shop didn't have !COFFEEA 😉

Sorry, out of BEER, please retry later...

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No worries, mate. Thanks anyways.

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I receive downvotes from he. It's not my fault that i was sponsored, steemit Is my source of income, i am writer. If anyone wants to help me when i made my next post, you are welcome, because i am living Venezuela, crossing a long and hard crisis, now that person hurts my unique income, that Is writing here on steemit. ☹️

Contrary to what he has claimed elsewhere, there are quite a few in the same position as you. This person doesn't care about us, as you can see when you go through the posts offered at the top of this post and more should you care to look.

Hopefully, this non-sense will be taken care of quickly so that we may focus on more important things like writing.

Thanks for stopping by and leaving a comment.

@mariuszkarowski is the mind behind the @mmmmkkkk311.

This nonsense have to stop, i wish it ends soon.
Is a pleasure drop my Litle grain of sabe on this battle.
Thanks to you for share tour vision about this trouble. I think all together we can neutralize it. Maybe steemit has to study a way to dont let ir happens.
Great work, i give you my Little upvote. 👍💖

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the funny thing here
is
you now got an sbi2 vote worth 0.30sbd ... but your last re-steem was 1 month ago and your last post 2 months ago, senor editor ...

that's not really good for the reputation of something id like to support
...
??!?
no one seems to have checked

Hello rudyarcatling :

I dont make a post from more than 2 month, and sbi votes comments when people has more than 7 days without posting. I have issues with internet from more than 30 months so i cant write as frequent as i used to do.

Also i win some contests, and receive sponsoring from people that believe on my work, you can check my post, i am dedicated to micro stories.

If you dont want to support me , well is ok no problem, but i think isnt reasonable to take on count this fact to judge for support anyone.

Anyway, i appreciate your comment and that you stop by and drop your opinion.

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Dear @tristancarx,
@f3nix writing here. I am very proud that you are part of our community of writers, the Bananafish. Your words remind me of all the values we stand for and are also a great source of inspiration (being you the official community inspirer we couldn't expect anything different!). I might write lot of things but I want to say that we are way bigger than this Steemit, we are humans with projects and passion and flesh and blood and what we have here is just a tool to express ourselves, not more not less. Let's not let a simple medium to take our humanity, our true selves, away for the sake of another shitty hierarchic and pyramidal order. We have enough of them in real life. What did @josephsavage create? A way to express solidarity and a hope of growth even for those that don't own to a golden whale's circlejerk. The Bananafish used and uses the @steembasicincome for a little of self-funding. So far, during all the account's existence, we just distributed upvotes and rewards between writers, thanks to our many contests. We created loads of good content with our fiction stories and poetry. Are we abusing of the platform? I don't think so. Yet, there's this self proclaimed hero that believes we need a flag. Go on, we don't give a shit because you know what? A story, a poetry, any expression of art and humanity lives beyond your little thinking and also beyond this simple box called Steemit. Bravo, Tristan. It's a great lesson of freedom for all of us what you did today. Looking at our wallet, we are broke at the Bananafish. Do we care? Not really, we're not greedy bastards like others. We'll find a way like we always did with the help of many to let the creativity flow once more and who cares about these flags. Hope you like my drawing.. always forward together and hoist the Bananafish colors high! (And now fuckit I'm also voting myself because every cent is precious for us and for the peeps to whom we will distribute them).

Told you, @f3nix. I love this community and those that come to step on it are in for fight!

I'm so happy to be with you guys as it is one place that keeps me coming back. We had our Quest in the Realms, which bombed money-wise (haha). That was my first time working with a community of people to produce something. It will always hold a special place in my heart so I must thank you, @f3nix, for creating the space where we strive to work together as a community.

Your picture is awesome.

Everyone joining and hosting a contest, owning or giving SBI or up voting in a circle is hunted for. CCC (@team-ccc) is a very small community investing in newbies. Each contest is hosted by a little fish and the prizes are paid by them too and they all are victim now.
This guy has over 10 accounts and tickets for 2000+ more accounts and is pissed he can no longer use his bid not. Revenge on the little fish is a fast and easy way to reduce the group of active members (and fill the steemit pool).

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I can just add that we don't vote in a circle. We upvote the artistic production of everyone participating in our initiatives and also we selfvote because of funding reasons. This community account gives 100% for the members of our open community. We have been helped by witnesses because we create real content and not shitposts, but at the moment the money to run it come exclusively from @f3nix (because I enjoy) + there are the delegations of our core members (because they enjoy too). Everyone else get free steem and upvotes.

@bananafish I believe you but if it comes to it I I it et in a circle if my circle is a common tag like #freewrite #cc #ccc #appics, etc. If it comes to the downvoter he will make more rules to downvote because he can. It would be a great gesture if he started to upvote good content too. Thanks for commenting. I wish you a great day nd hope more will join and start writing. 💕

Great thinking! Outgrowing the problem is probably the best effective way of dealing with it.

While I don't blame those choosing to duck and run, it frees up his resources to Target others.

He must be slowing down @josephsavage. He didn't downvote your comment yet!

I'm sure he will get to it! I was thinking I might go in a commenting spree to wear him down and take pressure off of others. I have enough saved up...

!sbi status

Hi @josephsavage!

  • you have 3495 units and 131 bonus units
  • your rshares balance is 269856706272246 or 87.611 $
  • as you did not wrote a post within the last 7 days, your comments will be upvoted.
  • your next SBI upvote is predicted to be 0.794 $

Structure of your total SBI vote value:

  • 98.13 % has come from your subscription level
  • 18.27 % has come from your bonus units
  • 1.14 % has come from upvoting rewards
  • 9.69 % has come from new account bonus or extra value from pre-automation rewards


    Take Control! Include #sbi-skip in your text or tags to have us skip any post or comment.

Fortunately, resources aren't endless. Let's see how long he wants to squander them instead of using them ;)

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Haha! I'm definitely on the shit list @josephsavage. He hit me at %100 dv this time, which I suppose is going to be the new normal for a while. However, with the support this community has shown toward @sbi, you, and, recently, me, I believe I'm get through it.

Is there a list of active members? I'm not done with purchasing @sbi, I just had to take a break from all of the copy and pasting.

Easiest way to put a list of active members together would be check a few days of vote history. If you wanted to focus more on active members that get votes less frequently because their subscription level is still low, I could put something together if you message me on Discord.

@tristancarax, I'll do this, too! Joseph, if you send me a list of a hundred users with <10 SBI, but who are posting regularly, I'll get them all a share!

Sent via Discord. Let me know if you have any questions.

Haha!!! Love ya, @improv.

You dare to write a post like this too? Will you help the one's with a broken neck?

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Well, that is certainly one (loved the “They Talk” clip …) way to handle it @tristancarax!

Doing my small part to keep this uhhh … “____” (whatever …) busy, here is my list:

@abh12345, @blessed-girl, @costanza, @crypto.piotr, @fitinfun, @fucho80, @josephsavage, @macoolette, @newageinv, @r2cornell, @thedarkhorse, @trincowski, and, of course, @tristancarax (Merry Christmas!)

In each case, I have chosen to “double down,” at a minimum. And more for those who I know need the help, which is what the SBI community is all about …

I’ll take the opportunity here to “publicly” thank @josephsavage for all of his efforts on the part of the SBI community for which he works tirelessly. I know you have done what you can. Frankly, not sure what keeps you going, but hopefully, this will one day all be over.

I know you put a lot of effort into creating this post @tristancarax. Hopefully you will enjoy some significant support for your efforts. Rest well knowing, in your own way, you have spoken for a lot of people! 👍


Whoops! Forgot to use # sbi – skip @mmmmkkkk311. Or did I forget …

not exactly sure what you want to say with the steemd screenshot and I've seen a lot of confusion around this topic: 0% downvote power doesn't mean you can't downvote anymore or that the flags are weak. It just means that further downvotes will consume voting power instead. sorry for OT

The screenshot @crokkon is simple reinforcement of both, in general, the post of @tristancarax and, in particular, my response to this uhhh … “____” (whatever …)’s dictate to use the SBI command referenced …

Are you saying here …

”… or that the flags are weak.”

… that downvoting with 0.28% power is the same as downvoting at 100% power?

And not sure what you are saying here …

sorry for OT”

… but you have no need to apologize for anything as far as I know. Am I missing something?

#sbi-skip

… that downvoting with 0.28% power is the same as downvoting at 100% power?

The maximum of voting power and downvote power defines the value of a flag. In the example above, the 75% VP are used to calculate the value of the flag. For the value of the flag, 0% play no role here. The fact that this account has 0% downvote power only tell that mmmmkkkk311 is actually using his free downvote mana - nothing more.

Okay @crokkon, good point. I’m sure I have read about that …

”… the 75% VP are used to calculate the value of the flag.”

… before, but easy to lose sight of, as you indicated. As his overall VP % drops, though, the value will continue to drop with it, right?

And … What does the ”sorry for OT” reference?

#sbi-skip

As his overall VP % drops, though, the value will continue to drop with it, right?

correct.

And … What does the ”sorry for OT” reference?

Because I tried to clear up some confusion about downvote power/mana/values which have nothing to do with @tristancarax original post.

Okay @crokkon. OT => "Off Topic" ... That clears it up!

While the author may have a different opinion, I think your points are related to his post ...

Thanks for your input! 👍

#sbi-skip

@CrokKon, I think @RoleeRob signaled the 'Downvote Power' for a reason =Þ

Someone got his Downvote Power exhausted?! ?TROLO LO LOL OOO'

Ha. The "They talk" was one of the first things that came to mind. They don't know we have spy-flies on their walls.

Doing my small part to keep this uhhh … “____” (whatever …) busy,

Your killing me with ______. Can't stop laughing.

Our numbers grow! Sweet.

I thank you, @roleerob, for your support!

I thought I would ignoring the downvotes problem and the silly arguments of those who caused it, but even this is a great way of dealing with it. We say "take the bull by the horns".
I like you, @tristancarax. You have heart and courage. You are a friend and a creative person with whom I have always had the pleasure of collaborating.
Let's go on, our way of using Steemit has always been based on the content and creativity of the human mind: fiction, poetry, music ... the economic side is secondary and functional to the continuation of this cultural activity. Whoever makes money the main question will be defeated despite the downvotes and the weight they can put on it.

I'm like 3 comments down and you guys are making me cry! I love the support this community has shown.

I love writing with you too, @marcoriccardi. Here's to having many more years to come.

I am surprised you receive comments. But I think the one's you know are bigger fish as the ones I know and have less to lose.

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The list I used the first time was gathered from the four posts put out by mmkk previous to this post.

I'm so very happy many of the peeps showed their support. I think this helps us all see what type of community we have around us.

And thanks for stopping by as well!

@tristancarax I read that list/his latest posts.

I agree. This can be a great platform but not with types like mmmmkkkk... it is good to be aware of it. What bothers me is new steem does not care. Happy day ❤️

The community cares. If there are enough of us that do, then we shall press forward and on. Through this challenging time, we will come out ahead, in the end, having learned a few new lessons. We must thank our enemies for the help they give in keeping us on the right path and growing toward the light.

@tristancarax I hope that helps. I could not answer @myjob how to avoid. I doubt we can but think we can call them by name. ❤️

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Thankyou @tristancarax. A very generous and creative way to counter the situation

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Oh yeah! I had fun.

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Has he even explained what he doesn't like about SBI?

He sees it as a bitbot. He also downvote what he sees as trading bots x)

Links to his posts about SBI are in this post @revisesociology, in which you can read what he himself says he doesn’t like.

Others, however, point out that he lost his bidbot “profit center” and suggest he is “lashing out in rage,” as a result, by attacking SBI …

#sbi-skip

Resteemed and sponsored 13 people from our SteemNova alliance.

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I stopped giving away SBI-shares because I didn't want to introduce other steemians to being downvoted for having them. Perhaps I should start again...

Let's not let some bully destroy a program that is working to benefit the people who bring their original works to fruition. Together we can take on this punk!!!

Downvotes are all over this platform. The downvotes given by this guy are never more than the upvotes from SBI. So, it can't hurt.

I call it 'fox hunt' :-)
I wish you every success and a great Christmas.

@tristancarax, @ecoinstats has nominated you for 100 units of SBI!
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Yippppeeeeeee!!!!

Hahaha!!! Yes, this will piss him off some more. Our power grows!!!

Now, to the question of, who is running this ship?

bwhahaha

Your fellow mutineer...?

@tristancarax you are definitely one of the reasons I love Steemit so much. Among the sites you support are a dozen others. (like @bananafish, @freewritehouse, @curie, @ocdb, @creativecrypto,....)

This community is something special. There are issues of low steem value or the whale votes but nothing that will keep me away.

Many Thanks and Steem On!

Ditto man!

Repeating what the @bananafish said, "ditto." 8-)

I just noticed the tag after 3 days. I am not pro SBI. But do not want to say what everyone should do with their Steem.

I gave away all my shares, now got one from you. Thank you. I'll give it away too.

I am assuming I got this because I was downvoted by @mmmmkkkk311. I don't mind the downvote If I got one.

Unfortunately, it doesn't matter how you got; he is going to attack anyone and everyone.

I am assuming I got this because I was downvoted

Yes and no. It may have been on a post you upvoted somehow or off a list I got from @josephsavage.

Give away your share?!?! What an excellent idea.

@mmmmkkkk311, that's free money to someone who is not paying into @sbi. Wow. Isn't that amazing?

I gave them away because I don't like SBI voting my posts/comments.

Apologies, Tristan asked me for a list and I think your name came up on it. I have marked your account to not come up on such lists again.

@tristancarax, Sometimes True Expression becomes must because we are surrounded with lot of Pre-Judgements. People are looking for Decentralised Structure when they act Centralised ways.

I don't Judge anybody but in my opinion for some Downvoting is a game but for me it's not because i am coming from the place of all kind of struggles. I am full time Steemian and this journey awakened me because on this space i got to know about my passion and that helping me to move forward in both Bear and Bull Market conditions.

Here we are seeing change and that change is, connecting with people and with their stories on Emotional levels and collectively becoming small helping hand if fellow human being is in the tough phase,that's the meaning of Community.

I don't know how many hold the same perspective, but at the end of the day we are living a Illusionary life and by that i mean we think that we are Owners but it's never a reality because we are just a visitors on this planet and we have a choice to spread goodness or mess. When it's a choice then let's walk on the path of goodness, let's understand people, let's learn to see people beyond any numbers.

We will see both goodness and negativity but at the end of the day we have a choice to spread a kind action which can literally fill life of people with happiness or one negative action which keep people into depressing phase. And Human Beings so sensitive beings and sometimes people never understand that one negative word or action can sabotage the happiness of fellow being.

I don't know if you are right or wrong but i want to appreciate your true reflection. Stay blessed.

we think that we are Owners but it's never a reality because we are just a visitors on this planet

When I first started going to Qi Gong/Taijiquan class, my teacher would always bring this up. He has worked hard, as well as I, to free me from the Western ways of thinking, which is an either/or system, to a holistic way of thinking, which is a both/and system.

We will see both goodness and negativity but at the end of the day we have a choice to spread a kind action which can literally fill life of people with happiness or one negative action which keep people into depressing phase. And Human Beings so sensitive beings and sometimes people never understand that one negative word or action can sabotage the happiness of fellow being.

I like your depth, sir.

Thanks for your support!!!

Welcome and thank you so much. Have a blessed and abundant time ahead.

A pyramid scheme makes money by taking finances from the bottom and putting them into the pockets above them. It doesn't generate revenue on its own. This is why they inevitably collapse.

steembasic income rewards STEEM through upvoting. STEEM that is given out is immediately given back, in portions, over time. I think the number is 6 months that you break even, assuming you continue to post on the STEEM blockchain.

The point is, that SBI guarantees revenue to those who 'invested'. The creation of more STEEM through upvoting content is a form of revenue generation ('mining' the STEEM blockchain). For this reason it can't be called a pyramid scheme IMO.

The creator could of course power down and run off with the STEEM, and then people lose their guaranteed SBI, and assuming that everyone did not get 100% of the STEEM they invested back, then it could be called scammy. But they haven't done then, and me personally I've made all the STEEM I put in, and then some.

@josephsavage thanks! and I'll try to remember putting some more SBI to folks next rewards payout.

The creator could of course power down and run off with the STEEM, and then people lose their guaranteed SBI, and assuming that everyone did not get 100% of the STEEM they invested back, then it could be called scammy. But they haven't done then, and me personally I've made all the STEEM I put in, and then some.

Realizing I should have talked to this part separately. Joseph Savage is on my driver's license. The largest SBI member is @contestkings. @dkid14 is one of their partners, and lives only two hours from me.

The likelihood that I could exit scam without serious financial and/or legal repercussions is zero.

At a minimum, if I close the program entirely, I would be bound by the terms of the refund policy, fulfillment of which would leave the accounts empty of SP.

The likelihood that I could exit scam without serious financial and/or legal repercussions is zero.

Exactly. It can't be defined as a pyramid scheme.

Hell, STEEM itself has a powerdown system in place that prevents people from jumping ship overnight anyway.

@josephsavage you've also been 100% open, clear and responsive this entire time. I'm actually impressed you're still here considering the post '17 crypto winter continues. SBI has contributed SO MUCH to this platform, all for the better.

Meanwhile this dude downvotes people because...

Spot on, @dirge. The @steembasicincome program has been (volunterily?) misunderstood by this troll and his friends. People make an investment through it and expects a ROI. I've always heard that whales can do what they believe is good for defending their investment, being the main stakeholders and backbone of steem, including selfvoting and circlejerking. We are stakeholders in the steembasicincome program and we just defend our initial allocation of resources. Then there's the other face of the medal which is that of solidarity and basic income vision. I believe that Steem is pure turbo-capitalism and, hence, the unavoidable inequality. @steembasicincome is a legitimate correction where the many join together.

Thanks for the support! We balance the SP backing each unit with a sustainability metric to keep reward levels as high as sustainability allows.

That does mean thst full earn back of subscription costs takes longer than six months (more like a couple of years), but it prevents the implied leverage of using lease delegations from accidentally toppling us into Ponzi territory.

The point is, that SBI guarantees revenue to those who 'invested'. The creation of more STEEM through upvoting content is a form of revenue generation ('mining' the STEEM blockchain).

@josephsavage, @dirge, If this, then one can't really say that we are purchasing upvotes because it is an investment into one upvote that gets better as one invests more into it. Would agree or disagree or other?

It isn't the same as a bid-bot which promised many upvotes, most of which were little to no value and, I think, most lost money on that.

Glad that your here, @dirge. 8-)

Actually we don't guarantee revenue, we only guarantee upvotes. Whether those convert into revenue at payout is beyond our control. We have always resisted making promises of actual returns, and when estimates have been given, they are always given as depending on STEEM price and reward pool behavior.

In fact, the earliest criticisms raised by whales were because we did not guarantee any level of returns.

SBI is more like earmarking SP for dedicated support of accounts you choose. We can't guarantee that the support has any value, any more than you can guarantee that an upvote on this comment will have any value after it gets countered by mmkk. In most cases the support will have value, of course.

... any more than you can guarantee that an upvote on this comment will have any value after it gets countered by mmkk.

hahaha!!!

In fact, the earliest criticisms raised by whales were because we did not guarantee any level of returns.

Than WTF does mmkk care? Ha! He was in the green and he never bought in. He was guaranteed to make profit! Silly people with little brains.

He believes that our use of the reward pool takes value away from his use of the reward pool, and does not consider the impact his Dv might have on overall Steem ecosystem.

If lots of people quit because of his DV, he wins but Steem loses. If lots of people double down and power up to support each other and SBI against him, he loses but Steem wins.

Maybe he is a crisis actor?

We will countinue to use the SBI program, Joseph. We don't really give a damn shit of his twisted vision.

First of all, thanks for the SBI :)
I like your idea/thinking.

Actually, I have no idea how many different steemians already received SBI from me.
Last August I did a statistical post where I made some conclusions about my contest.

Some overall figures
How many SBI were given away last year?
The total amount of SBI (1 SBI = 1 STEEM) given away was 290!
That's 5.6 SBI every week.

How many participations and unique participants did we have?
The total amount of entries/comments/participations was 1455 which is an average of 28 entries every week.
These entries were made by 299 unique steemians.

So I assume that 200+ different steemians received SBI last August already.

This might be the reason why I am also a number one target for him :)

Let's spread the word ;)

If we all roll down together...

You're supposed to have a punch line.

I know. I know. I'm thinking.

Then we make it to the bottom. haha

Awesome. I'm sure you'll keep doing what you are doing reguardless of these petty attacks. 8-)

As long as my posts stay visible I'll do for sure - no matter what the payouts are.

By the way: I love panda bears :)

Thank you very much for your support! Cheers @tristancarax

Thank you for your kind words and I have noticed the downvotes, too.

Great !

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Thanks for the mention. I do believe in community building. Let's do our part in building a good one. Steem on 👍👍

I hear Haha brutha. Petty shit.

Well done, sir!

Grateful for your support, few say so clearly. Greetings @tristancarax

Thanks for the mention, @tristancarax.
Be successful and have a very nice Christmas times.

He's done it to me several times. Its not my fault sbi was given to me. I'm to lazy to skip the sbi vote.

You're getting free money and he is mad. He was getting free money until he was blacklisted and he is mad. I don't get it.

It's whatever I guess I mean I don't even have a lot of sbi or steem power. As a teenager I'm using it for extra college money.

@tristancarax I appreciate the SBI shares. I do not know much about SBI but will give it a look. Again, thanks much!!

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You may have been found because you follow someone's comment trail. Lucky you. Glad that you will check it out.

peace.

You rock @tristancarax!! 🎸
I give away 2 to 4 SBIs every week to winners of my weekly My Thursday Favourites contest under the @team-ccc community. and was disheartened with the constant downvotes from this individual. But after reading your post, I have hope and will continue to give away SBIs. Thank you for your post!

Edit: And he just gave me a couple of big downvotes on my posts and he did on this post too. His SP has increased tremendously. He is really sad.

I'm sick about this, @marblely.

@tristancarax - we need to find big guys to counteract these bigger downvotes.

Contest runners are all getting these big downvotes now. He's also got some kind of an "in" with steemcleaners and is voting for comments on the burn posts. He will not get anymore author rewards, but he comment rewards are still 30+ sp a day.

This is interesting to keep in mind. Someone needs to go after his comments feed then.

Yup. It is really sickening to have abusers like this around our good ecosystem.

I showed further support by putting you in my support/delegate to pile.

Keep on given away - if they earn them, of course. 8-)

Thank you very much @tristancarax! I will!

I love this - 100% downvote from an idiot and still more than $5 to receive :)
Let's try to make it even more by resteeming :)

Haha!!! Yeah. This pissed him off. I suppose I'll be a number one target from now on. We grow none-the-less.

Hi @tristancarax!

  • you have 647 units and 0 bonus units
  • your rshares balance is 1233667025795 or 0.402 $
  • your next SBI upvote is predicted to be 0.134 $

Structure of your total SBI vote value:

  • 86.81 % has come from your subscription level
  • 0.00 % has come from your bonus units
  • 9.62 % has come from upvoting rewards
  • 3.57 % has come from new account bonus or extra value from pre-automation rewards


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Ha, 656 units :)

I love that steempeak gives me the information in my wallet right away ;)

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Catch me if you can :P

EDIT: wow - I just saw you have lots more already :)

734 ... I'm impressed ;)

I think about 200 of that came from people support. We win in the long run if people stick with it.

Thanks for the sponsor.. surprised I was in the list!!!

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You did something, whether that was upvoting a comment or speaking out somewhere somehow.

Thanks for writing this post in response to this attack to SBI and it's holders. Many accounts are abusing downvoting under the most absurd justificaciones.
Thanks for including me in your list. I appreciate it. I wish I could afford investing on SBI to benefit other steemians

Don't worry about it if you can't. Showing your support reguardless has touched my heart.

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Didn't ask for any of this nor for SBI nomination. I'm not a party of this war between MK and you guys. Personally, I don't agree with MK but there's a reason for his crusad, but...

Btw is there an option to opt out from SBI?

@josephsavage, Sorry for this but I was looking in the FAQ and couldn't find how one may burn their shares. Please share.

@jocieprosza, I do apologize. You were probably one of the people who upvoted a comment somewhere. I didn't check who had shares and what-not because, well, I don't have that many days to spare. 8-) Maybe in the future you will rethink your position once this rediculous thing is over and come back. Peace, bro.

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You've supported my work for a long time. Thanks again!!!

Great post and response to these useless downvotes. I was downvoted for the same reasons, just when I was considering to not only give out some SBI, but also delegation to the SBI initiative. After the downvote, I definitely sent out some SBI, and I most definitely SENT 1000 Steem Power Delegation to SBI. Now I will also be returning the favor @tristancarax
Thank you and take care.

Haha! so cool. Glad to have you aboard. He's been hitting me hard since I did this. Oh well.

ps. I forgot....

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Hi @streetstyle!

  • you have 127 units and 500 bonus units
  • your rshares balance is 3058928228168 or 0.984 $
  • your next SBI upvote is predicted to be 0.328 $

Structure of your total SBI vote value:

  • 37.50 % has come from your subscription level
  • 39.31 % has come from your bonus units
  • 22.69 % has come from upvoting rewards
  • 0.00 % has come from new account bonus or extra value from pre-automation rewards


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Glad we're all working together on this!
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Hi @improv!

  • you have 3398 units and 178 bonus units
  • your rshares balance is 44036594444526 or 14.220 $
  • your next SBI upvote is predicted to be 4.740 $

Structure of your total SBI vote value:

  • 79.30 % has come from your subscription level
  • 6.83 % has come from your bonus units
  • 7.24 % has come from upvoting rewards
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Believe it or not but you have actually been a huge inspiration when it comes to SBI, Thank you. #spud #spud9

Yeeha! Spud on. Your votes in the darkest times have made me feel like someone out there was actually reading, and I appreciate you, too!

It's hard to disagree with the SBI mechanism helping with inclusion and user retention. While I'm not sure it's my battle to fight, I'm more than happy to help with yours. +1 SBI and best of luck!

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Hi @gwilberiol!

  • you have 64 units and 0 bonus units
  • your rshares balance is 6429628034244 or 2.094 $
  • your next SBI upvote is predicted to be 0.698 $

Structure of your total SBI vote value:

  • 40.09 % has come from your subscription level
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Whatever amount of support you give, @gwilberiol, is so very much appreciated.

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@mariuszkarowski is the mind behind the @mmmmkkkk311 account, he's not very receptive though you can always try.

i have to agree, I know Joseph is aware of this.

I forgot to say thanks so thanks. 😉

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Im gonna dv his post.. as a retaliation and for fun 😂

So annoying right? Who does he think he is? It gets worrying that his SP is increasing.

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Yeaahh.. but I don't really care.. let him do it.. I hope he'll get tired