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RE: Claiming to know the one thing we can't know!

in #religion7 years ago

I enjoyed your rant very much. The Catholic pope certainly has a lot to do with religion but not too much to do with God or heaven, according to the bible. Jesus was anti-religiosity Himself which is clear if you read what He said.

I'm guessing your personal conviction is in Science-ism, a faith in the belief that all came from nothing for no purpose. I used to believe that myself, a depression inducing stance. What interests me is that it is on your mind the question of the destination of your spirit when you shuffle off this mortal coil. A very important thing to meditate upon. You are spot on it is the key thing to get right in this life, heaven or hell. Not the kind of thing you'd like to get wrong.

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Thanks for dropping in ardent. No, that is not correct. I place a very high value on science and empiricism but there are definitive limits to that kind of knowledge.........That isn't a justification for religious assertions about what happens to someone when they die. I stand by facts on that one: they are dead! That is all we know for sure....
Any other claim is sheer speculation and beyond the scope of human knowledge. Any human making a definitive claim on the issue is completely mistaken.
BTW: I have no problem with anyone believing anything they like about the afterlife, just have some epistemological humility and frame the assertion as speculative and​ not definitive....

Maybe an example would help: say I'm a scientist that discovered tachyons, and then declared to everyone that tachyons spoke to me telepathically; in science, ​the claim wouldn't be enough, the claim would have to be verified and repeatable​ by a large number of peers. Religion offers no such shared repeatable​ evidence, until such time as it does we should all take a long deep step back from our religious assertions about invisible things......

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