Standard Image Sourcing for the Qurator Project

in qurator •  last year  (edited)

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One of the biggest problems our team comes across when new users apply to @qurator, and even with some existing members, is Image Sourcing. We understand that some might not be doing this with bad intentions, it's just that not everyone knows how to do it properly, or even realise the need to do so.

With that in mind, we decided to do a quick tutorial on how to source images correctly, so you get approved a lot easier, and to keep already approved members safe from future penalties that we will be applying soon on those who don't follow our community rules.

We are doing this because we are seeing more and more posts with images not being sourced.

EVERY image must be sourced if it's not the property of the author. Sourcing is one thing, crediting is another. Wouldn't everyone agree that sourcing as a standard would rule out any plagiarism and foul play?

We are going to bring the hammer down on all those who do not source correctly, and we know this will be a very unpopular move for sure.

We are now letting members know they have to source correctly or use original images.

Think of it this way though, if Qurator had some whale support/delegation and we had for example 1 million Steem Power. Would you do proper sourcing then? For sure! Although we all love the rewards, we are not all about the money. We want quality content and support for those who create it.

So, with no further ado, here is how to correctly source images in 4 easy steps:

Step One:

Step Two:

  • Choose the image you need:

Example.png

source

Step Three:

  • Paste the image on your blog/article.

Step Four:

  • Source and link your image correctly.

See that linked "source" word under the printscreen above?
That's what we ask you to do, and this is how to do it:

1- Copy the image address/URL from the website you chose to use:
Note: Do not just copy the landing page of the free image site.

Example2 URL.png

2- Paste it under your image using the exact following code:

[source](paste your image URL here)

Example:

[source](https://pixabay.com/es/fox-naturaleza-animales-roux-fauna-715588/)

You will end up with an image looking like this:


source

Et voila! You have a properly sourced image that no one will be able to pick on!


WHY IS THIS SO IMPORTANT?

I'll try to put this in a very simple way:

First of all, there's something called image royalties and intellectual property. Meaning that someone actually took or created that image and decided to sell it or make it available for free. How would you feel if you created amazing art, took stunning photos or designed amazing graphics just so others can take it and profit from it? Not cool right?

In cases when an artist decides to sell one of his images to a website for example, that sale will come in the form of a usage license, normally limited to a specific domain, which means that just because a popular website or blog is using a particular image, doesn't give me or anyone else the right to go there, take it and use it for ourselves.

People can actually get in serious trouble by doing this, in case the artist/creator decides to take legal action.

If it's not yours, source it, stay safe!



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Thank you Thank you thank you!

I have had me mind on this Topic of Image Sourcing. I was copy and pasting the Link address underneath the picture but I was not aware of how to format it. Very helpful indeed!

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You're very welcome! Glad we could help :)

Image sourcing is so important and so many people don't do it the right way, and I'm glad you enforce it as part of the approval process. I try to get around the problem entirely and take it as an opportunity to enrich my blog posts by showing my own photos. Even if they're not totally related to whatever I'm posting I try to find something that has at least a similar mood or theme. But that's just a personal preference and I know it doesn't work for every genre.

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Great, @malloryblythe. That, and sourcing support materials correctly, are the right and responsible approach any serious content creator should have.

excellent as always!

Something I've been wondering. If we are reviewing a game, for example, how should we go about posting images of it, like screenshots from the game or the cover art? ... Or we simply shouldn't?

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You should use images from the official website and link them accordingly.
We will not pick on game print screens either. As long we don't find the image when we perform a reverse search you will be safe.

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Ah, okay. Thank you for the clarification!

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You're welcome.

I normally put the source for my image at the end of the post. Is this acceptable? Or must it be right underneath the image?

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You can add it in the end, as long it is visible and organized (in case of more than one image) that will be fine.

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Thank you very much for the confirmation.

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No problem.

Thanks for the instructions! They were understandable. I obviously know I have to mark the sources but I have been struggling on how to make those "source" links or whatever they are called instead of pasting the link to the page etc, which looks horrible. So I and will definitely have use for this information.

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We know that most people just don't do it because they don't know how, that's why we came up with this simple tutorial. Glad you find it useful, @meandyou.

This is an easy-peasy tutorial for all Steemians to take in count as there are many people creating these awesome images we use, so this is the right way to recognize their effort and creativity.

Thank you for this post @qurator.

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I couldn't agree more.

Congratulations @qurator!
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I thoroughly source and attribute all of the images I use on my posts, but its simply not feasible for me to get images exclusively from those free sources. My channel is about video games and there's nothing on those sites I can use, wether its screenshots, artwork, product photos etc.

Will this crackdown effect people like me who use images outside of those approved sites, but source them extensively so the owner of the image is properly attributed?

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If you're sourcing it directly to the original author you're doing it correctly. Nothing against that.

What happens when you use a picture from a royalty free and zero-attribution website like pixabay and then modify it to suit your needs?

Do we need to attribute the final image, because it's now a brand new image and has had creative input.

Another example would be using public domain clip art to develop the final artwork.

I always link back if I've just slapped someone else's picture up there but are more casual when I've created images from others freely available and without needing attribution.

Your thoughts would be appreciated.

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Lets put it in a very simple way, if the image is not yours (modified or not) you always need to source it. Otherwise how can we, or any other project, verify that it is indeed a free to use image?

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I use canva, and they say you can use the free images in their files without attribution when you use them on social media posters or for any other reason.

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@fitinfun Attribution is different than sourcing. If an image is free to use you indeed don't need to attribute any type of credit to the original author, BUT you do need to link it back (source it) to the page where you got it from, otherwise we will not be able to verify is it is a free image or not.

If we make a reverse search and find the image online and not sourced we will handle it as stolen content.

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I will have to take my chances and see what happens on that one. I'm definitely not linking all my posts back to canva.

Here are a couple of examples from recent posters.
colorchallenge wednesdayyellowdragosroua challenge fitinfun 30.jpg

fitinfun How to make money as a new minnow on steemit 2.jpg

I am a photographer and normally only use my own photos. But I will use canva for something like the depressed looking guy since I have no photo like that. I also use that fish on all my minnow tips posters. If it becomes a problem, I will stop using canva images and use my own or none.

canva also has graphics:
Work music get things done fitinfun steemit.jpg

I do not source or attribute these either and I use them more frequently.

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We obviously can not obligate anyone to source, even if it is the correct thing to do. In the end of the day the only thing we can control is what type of content will be supported and upvoted.

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I have been posting canva posters for years and this is the first I have heard of this requirement on any platform. I guess I will have to wait to see what happens with your searching. I know canva buys all rights from their contributors.

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As I said above, if we perform an image reverse search on one of your unsourced images (or anyone else's) and find a similar one online we will treat it as stolen content.
It's the authors responsibility and duty to back up his/hers materials, not ours to hunt and guess where each image comes from.

It's like you driving your car, getting pulled over by a police officer who asks you for your driving license and you reply to him: "I have it but I will not show you because I just don't feel like it".
You might be indeed entitled to drive, but you still have to prove that every time you're asked for.

This is a popular decision from my perspective. People need to realise that plagiarism of images is just as serious as that of music, writing or video. Good decision @qurator the only thing I would say, is that some people source their images at the end of their post in a list. Will you be penalizing those people? Or is it cool as long as the images are stated as sourced at the end with links to the (creative commons/royalty free) websites they were sourced from?

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As long as the images are sourced, it really doesn't matter to us if it is right under each one or summarized at the end. It's up to the author how to organize his/her posts.

Weehee! This is what had me fail my first application for qurator! Although, it was a good lesson to learn. Not done with bad intention, just ignorance!

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Everything has its learning curve, no worries!

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Thank you for this @qurator.

Question 1:
What if I pay for the use of an image at Shutterstock or Adobe, which I sometimes do for other uses? That payment now gives me a licence to use it on my website or in a publication. How do I show you this?

Question 2:
I get a photo from a free site like Pixabay, which I use extensively. I then use something like Powerpoint or Publisher or Canva to create a pic with text or put it next to or over another pic and save it as a jpeg to use it on Steemit. Would Pixabay want to be credited for their pic that I altered? Do you want to me to credit them?

I want to do this right and am not trying to be difficult. Please help. I want any pics I place in a blog to communicate as strongly as my words, so I often alter them. But I do it in an amateurish way that I do not think anyone else would want to be credited for.

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1: In case of a payed license you need to notify us and show us that same licence. You can contact me in discord for that purpose.

2: You don't have to credit Pixabay, crediting is not the same thing as sourcing... Look at it like this.. If the image is not yours you need to source it (link it) to the page where you got it from in the first place, otherwise there will be no way for us to confirm that it is indeed a free image.

Wow! Can I tell you that I have never sourced an image since I started posting in Tsu, (which was my first paid account)! How would I cite photos that a friend sent to me if he has no website or social media link? Do I just put his name at the end of my post thus; "Not my own photos but sent to me by Mr./Mrs, so and so"?

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It's like a confession time :)
Yes, if you mention something like that in the end of the post crediting your friend, it will be fine.

Hi @qurator, I'm still very new on Steem (only 35 days old as at this reply, according to Steemd.com) but I've been a #freeculture and #creativecommons geek for a lot longer. Stumbling upon this post was very timely for me as a n00bie plankton around here. I'm currently in the process of setting up my posting templates, which will include a section for licensing, attribution, and sourcing. As a FreeCulture geek, I routinely attribute even CC0 Public Domain images which I use, whether I use them in whole or in part, standalone or as elements of a remix I have created. In such attribution I always include a source link. I'd really appreciate it if someone could have a look at one of my recent posts, such as here or here to confirm that my sourcing meets the requirements of the Qurator project. I don't even know too much about Qurator yet, but I heard about it on the @steempeak Discord, and have just joined yours to find out more.

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Hello and welcome to Steemit! :)
I had a quick look at the posts and everything seems to be in order. It still the Team that will have to review and approve your account though.

Feel free to contact us on Discord if you have more questions about the project.

Hello @qurator,

I'm thinking about enrolling and checked my posts for proper image sourcing. In some cases - especially when using share2steem for posts coming from twitter - I had issues because the relating images from sources did not come up properly in the share2steem from twitter post. I then made a copy of the image to place it in the top of the article so it would show up in my blog overview of articles. These were the same images as in the linked article. I did not place an extra image source under these images. Would you treat this as stolen content? If so I would have to re edit all these posts before enrolling with your service.

Cheers!

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Hello,
As long as there is a link to an article where the image was taken from, there should be no problem. It doesn't have to be under the image directly.
We would love to see some personal touch to the articles you share though.

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Thank you!

Hello @qurator and @brumest! I am here because you rejected my request due to error in the sources of the images. All my posts where I use images that are not mine are duly accredited at the end of the post. It seems that I must do it just below each image. It is understood. So, do I have to modify all my posts for you to accept my application?

I am a reasonably good photographer and tend to use a lot of my own photos, but roses and such are kind of generic. How do I avoid trouble in case a photo of mine looks like someone else's?

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Hello, You'r photograph would have to be exactly the same as someone else to get into trouble. That is not likely to happen. If you post your own photographs, there everything is fine :)

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Very nice article. There are also many other free websites apart from the ones mentioned in Step One. We can use it from those websites as well. There are also few very good photographers available in Instagram, they give their photos under CC0 licence. We can also use them. The below post was from @steemstem community. It also has some valuable information. Just an addition to this wonderful article.

https://steemit.com/@steemstem/guidelines-on-copyright-standards-in-steemstem

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Hi @bala41288, the websites mentioned on step one are mere examples and perhaps the most well known ones. Obviously, if someone is truly interested in doing things right will not have any issues finding others.
And thank you very much for reinforcing the need of sourcing things correctly!

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Yes, that is so true @brumest. But unfortunately, even good writers are quite ignorant about selecting the right image. They add sourcing to their images but they sometimes select a random copyrighted image using google search and add it as the source.