That's the point in my first paragraph. I'm not talking about the negative kind that is meant to degrade someone. That's a humiliation for the purpose of humiliation, I should have made that clear. Humiliation in the sense of the purpose to elucidate truth to get someone to face reality, is not with the purpose to simply degrade someone, and is actually a positive. It just happens that someone loses face, gets humiliated, and there is nothing to be done about that. Reality has to be faced sooner or later. Thank you for your feedback.