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RE: The State and You. An Introduction To Illusion Based Mindcontrol - Part 3.

in #psychology8 years ago (edited)

@krnel
Sorry for the delay on this. Time is spend elsewhere these days.

I really appreciate the feedback. I did write a reply two times, but I decided to make it into some posts instead, because your comment gave me perfect inspiration to explain my previous post in a real time relation and extending them into planned material. :) I hope that you will join the conversation on the coming posts.

As a reply, the information got too entangled, trying to explain too many things at the same time.

We have a different understanding of a few subjects and I hope you will be interested in exploration of them. Be it on your own blog, comments on my blog in future posts, where I explain my understanding or something else (maybe not :)) - Is entirely up to you.

I am not completely sure what your understandings are, but I will draw examples from your comments, to explain my pattern recognition process on the subjects.I do not expect you to be fully engaged in my work, so I will just use it as an example, and therefore nothing is required of you. To the best of my knowledge we differ on whether or not man can manifest his ideas (the state is an illusion or not). Opening up for a lot of associated knowledge that can help "us" understand exactly that.

That knowledge I will try weave into my already preplanned schedule of posts. I will however need a few posts to explain my take, including following the path for the blog. So I will take some time to do so.

I hope as I wrote above, that you will join in, but to be perfectly blunt: What I wrote as a reply I have now divided into 7 posts and need to defragment the information in them.

Come by when they are ready and posted and tear apart whatever you disagree with and point out why it is wrong or inaccurate.

Time is not right for being defensive about anything imo. So have at me if you are holding back :p Truth matters to me, not my illusions of it, meaning i seek to know and understand what is true about, that which is. I think we both are trying to do exactly that.

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Well I agree that it's not a thing in itself as I explained others things aren't. It's also not like a physical house that we can build and unbuild, but it can be built and unbuilt as a way of life. We create some things physically with our behaviors and actions effecting that manifestation (house, govt building, etc), and we also act and behave in ways that don't create physical manifestations necessarily, like the way of life we live that believes in the real, genuine, true, good and moral way of government/state rule. Falsity (unreality) can be accepted and created into the truth of reality.

Since you seem to know some of my work, maybe you know this one too ;)

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I put it because of the many ways unreality and reality, truth and falsity can be used depending on the contextual reference (perspective) being applied to analyze something. Something can be manifested, exist, true, real, etc., yet be a false, immoral, etc. modality that should not be manifested, hence unreal as a not being true, real, etc. (it belongs in the unreality of imagination potential, not to be actualized in reality though). Maybe you already get what I'm saying but others can understand better because it can be confusing. That's why I did presentations to explain how this categorization works.

Government/state is an illusion/unreality of a real, good, moral, true, just (maa) way of living, that we create into reality. Since it's not genuinely real and good and true, etc., then it's unreal in that sense and unreality from our consciousness is manifested into existence. I get what you're saying, I just don't agree with some of the way you're saying it.

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