The "Green New Deal" is INSANE! Also very communist. McCarthy where are you!?

in politics •  8 months ago 

Insanity.

This morning, Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez released an overview of her “Green New Deal” which threatens "a massive transformation of our society."

Below are the details of the proposal:

Rebuild every single building in the U.S.
“Upgrade or replace every building in US for state-of-the-art energy efficiency.”

Will end all traditional forms of energy in the next ten years.
The Green New Deal is “a 10-year plan to mobilize every aspect of American society at a scale not seen since World War 2 to achieve net-zero greenhouse gas emissions.”

Plans to ban nuclear energy within 10 years if possible.
“It’s unclear if we will be able to decommission every nuclear plant within 10 years, but the plan is to transition off of nuclear and all fossil fuels as soon as possible.”

Build trains across oceans and end all air travel!
“Build out highspeed rail at a scale where air travel stops becoming necessary”.

Don’t invest in new technology of Carbon Capture and Storage, just plant trees instead!
“We believe the right way to capture carbon is to plant trees and restore our natural ecosystems. CCUS technology to date has not proven effective.”

Mandates all new jobs be unionized.
“Ensure that all GND jobs are union jobs that pay prevailing wages and hire local.”

May include a carbon tax.
“We’re not ruling a carbon tax out, but a carbon tax would be a tiny part of a Green New Deal.”

May include cap and trade.
“…Cap and trade may be a tiny part of the larger Green New Deal plan.”

How much will it cost?
No estimate of the total cost of implementing the Green New deal is offered by Ocasio-Cortez.

However, as Ocasio-Cortez admits, “even if every billionaire and company came together and were willing to pour all the resources at their disposal into this investment, the aggregate value of the investments they could make would not be sufficient.”

She does provide one estimate that the cost to “repair and upgrade infrastructure U.S. infrastructure” alone will cost “$4.6 trillion at minimum.

How will it be paid for? Don’t worry about that.
Ocasio-Cortez doesn’t provide any insight into how the trillions of dollars in spending will be paid for other than claiming, “The Federal Reserve can extend credit to power these projects and investments and new public banks can be created to extend credit”. But as Ocasio-Cortez says, “the question isn’t how will we pay for it, but what will we do with our new shared prosperity”.

Ocasio-Cortez also wants to eliminate meat due to the methane released in cow farts. Part of the deal also calls for free education for anyone that wants it, unlimited government jobs, and free money for the ones that don't want the guaranteed jobs.

It's a shame how delusional AOC can get. Sometimes she says some brilliant things in between her mumbling stupor's. Unfortunately the "Green New Deal" is not one of those brilliant nuggets.


Below is the text of the proposed bill:
https://www.scribd.com/document/399125786/Green-New-Deal-Resolution

And here is the FAQ from Ocasio-Cortez' office that reads like it is written by middle schoolers:
https://www.scribd.com/document/399133062/Green-New-Deal-FAQ

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I recommend you inform yourself better on this issue. Like, if you think the plan calls for the complete eradication of air travel as opposed to reducing it as much as possible... you need to inform yourself better.

  ·  8 months ago (edited)

It called for 99% reduction of air and gas auto. That is straight from the GND itself. I cover this stuff for a living. I know a lot more than most people. Not to mention the communism thats hidden in it.

I'm very well informed.

  ·  8 months ago (edited)

Do please elaborate on the hidden communism, I didn't realize the plan involved eliminating the state and the owner class.

  ·  8 months ago (edited)

Its calling for unionization of all new jobs, wealth redistribution for those UNWILLING to work, calls for the destruction of the fossil fuel industry by the governments hand. Sounds like its a chapter in the communist manifesto lol.

Basically everything in the bill requires coercion and the force of government to accomplish it. Browse through it, i have a link to it in the original post, and see how much of it involves government force and government distribution of wealth.

And when asked how she'd pay for this (cost $50 trillion conservative estimate) she said we can just print the money.

  ·  8 months ago (edited)

Its calling for unionization of all new jobs, wealth redistribution for those UNWILLING to work, calls for the destruction of the fossil fuel industry by the governments hand. Sounds like its a chapter in the communist manifesto lol.

None of that is communism. And, the "unwilling to work" has been explained as referring to retirees and the like.

Basically everything in the bill requires coercion and the force of government to accomplish it. Browse through it, i have a link to it in the original post, and see how much of it involves government force and government distribution of wealth.

It requires no more coercion than we have today by the combination of government (taxes) and capital.

And when asked how she'd pay for this (cost $50 trillion conservative estimate) she said we can just print the money.

That's basically true. In fact, nowadays you don't even need to print the money, you just create a bank account and fill it with ones and zeros. How do you think they do it when expanding the military budget or bailing out financial institutions?

As I said, you should inform yourself better. I recommend you start by reading on Modern Monetary Theory.

  ·  8 months ago (edited)

Forcing unionization isnt communism? Have you ever studied the bolshevik revolution? Unionization is a core tenant of communism. Im cool with voluntary unionization. But forcing it on people is 100% wrong. Lol your first sentence shows you have no idea what youre talking about.

It absolutely required more coercion than just taxes. The plan is calling for every home and businesses to be gutted and refitted to meet "green" standards. The whole proposal is a government power grab and redistribution of wealth. Its also calling for the elimination of the fossil fuel industry, destruction of the air travel industry, and auto industry by government force. What is it called when government controls markets? Communism. Btw, how are batteries, solar panels, and thousands of products made? From petroleum based products. The best part is they want to eliminate nuclear energy too, which is the most efficient and cleanest form of energy we have at this point and it is pretty safe.

And just because they print money now doesnt make it right. Nor does it mean we should keep doing it. I never said i agree with the banking system and your reply insinuates that i do. This is why im in crypto. But just suggesting we can print 50 trillion with no consequences is asinine. It brings down the value of all of our money. And $50 trillion is over twice our national debt which has taken decades to build up.

All of this is a centralization of power in the government.

Sounds like you need to give that book another read. 😂😂😂

  ·  8 months ago (edited)

Communism is the ultimate state of affairs theorized to be reached after the revolution, it's by definition a stateless and classless situation. If you want to say that communism means USSR-style state capitalism, I'm OK with that, that has become a widely accepted definition too, just be mindful that "communism" still means both things.

Now, is it fair to characterize the GND as a Soviet-style state capitalist plan (in hidden form or not)? Absolutely not. The GND falls close to FDR-style social democracy more than anything else. The unionization you bring up is a perfect example: in the USSR unions were under direct control of the state, under the GND we are talking something working within the Wagner Act of 1935.

I never said i agree with the banking system and your reply insinuates that i do.

Sorry for the confusion, I didn't mean to imply that. What I meant was that all these things you complain about already happen, with the GND at least they will happen for something of utmost economic and ecological necessity.

I do recommend again that you read on the subjects of Modern Monetary Theory, socialism and communism. Much of what you say reeks of state propaganda to me. But anyway, good luck with it. Cheerios!