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RE: If you support the animal industry are you indirectly supporting slavery?
:) no offense, but if anybody gets to ask questions it's the other way around.
Why?
Because meat eaters don't pay for vegans and vegetarians. But vegans and vegetarians pay big-time for meat eaters. The price of meat is only a fraction of what the real costs are to produce it and pay for the damage done.
The rest of the bill we all get to pay for through taxation (theft). If meat eaters start paying for their weird obsession with corpses themselves I would feel much less inclined to mention the topic.
No offense at all, we are debating! Why should I??? Question can be done in both ways as far as I see, why should be just one way around? What make so special people who do not want to eat something????
As far as I read you are talking about the way meat is produce ... Do you think there is only this industrial way to produce meat int he world? I come from a family of farmers in Cuba so I know other ways ... maybe it is the problem for many people who think like you ... you all think there is just one way, the industralized one ... not offense but all your coment it has nothing to do with eating but producing ...
This is a joke right? You see that you are all the time talking about producction.
But the worlds problems are not only around industry meat all the time, really sorry to say ... the industry of paper, for example, cut a lot of trees just for to produce books and stuf like that, I do not see people complaining for other peoples who read a lot of books or kids in the schools buying notebooks... Do you know how many trees the cut just for that and no one care? You at the end withou knowing it are playing the game no seeing what the real problem is ... Mass Production!
And do not get me wrong .. for me it is the same what you or someone else want to eat. It is your problem what you introduce in your body, you are free to decide. Now if you want to talk about how WE PRODUCE EVERYTHING in some countries like USA, Canada and countries from Europe then maybe we can find a solution to all this problems.
I do not think to eat this or that have to do with it.
I am well aware that industrial meat production is not the only way. Who isn't?
But it exists and it destroys our world like nothing else does at a tremendous cost for everybody. watch this for more information:
Sadly I can not see the video, it is blocked in Germany by Very US Network.
Are you aware that in many part of this world people can NOT CHOOSE what they can eat, they eat what they get the same day, whatever it is and sometime from the trash can... they are not super markets and things like in USA, Canada and some countries in Europe where the majority part of the vegans I know live ... (Not talking about India where cows are sacred or musulmans countries where they do not eat pig)
I am aware of this. I just fail to see how that changes the fact that the meat industry is destroying our earth like no other horrible thing we do and nobody is talking about it...
I can see that there are other problems, though, thank you.
Ps: if you really want to know, you will find a way to watch.
It is not about other problems... and the meat industry is not the only one who is destruying the planet the way u want to put it... you forget so many other industries like wood, paper for example, minery and so on that really destroy the world in a vissible way ... but hey! it is just my personal experience when I was a bit around the world making docu films ... not seeing them in internet ... for example
About the deforestation and the water problems in Chile not because of the "horrible"meat industry but the wood and paper industry ... they mapuches are fighting against it. If you do not understand spanish you can jump to minute 26 and see what happens in reality in those countries when u fight a "real terrible industry" ... btw you can see me there too
Esta Todo bien, amigo. Yo se de la lucha de los mapuche... Pero parece que tu no tienes ni idea cual industria está responsable para el parte más grande de la deforestación del mundo.
Yo no lo sabía hace poco. Cuando ves los números se te van a abrir los ojitos.
Viva la libertad!
Entonces a luchar contra la industria y sus dueños no contra la gente que quiere y tiene todo el derecho del mundo a comer carne o lo que desee ... vuelves a lo mismo, la Producción en Masa es lo que hay que parar pero no solo de carne sino de TODO! :)
... recobrar la soberanía es lo mas importante! Libres somos desde que nacemos aunque nos traten de convencer de lo contrario ;)
Problema es que comemos tanta carne que no hay otra manera para producir todo...
One thing I have to add:
ASSUMING that others only get their information online while you know it all because you travelled... come on, friend.
That is not the way to have a polite discussion now, is it? Get a grip on the fact that you do not know about others.