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RE: UK PM Triggers Article 50 to Leave the EU - Why I'm Positive About It

in #politics8 years ago

While a lot of what you are saying is true, you seem to be overlooking a key component. It is the tyrannical nature of the EU and the limited autonomy of the UK's subservient leaders that prevents the UK from possessing the necessary power to change all of the problems you speak of. British law, is EU law. The austerity inflicted genocide you speak of is a direct result of EU regulations and therefore, under a national law, rather than a European one, perhaps we will be able to address many of these problems that the EU has perpetuated.

Though, for that to happen, we would need leaders that are not corrupt, and actually care about the common people rather than the 0.1% This is something that I have difficulty finding optimism towards.

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I agree. I am not in favour of being part of the EU except for the idealistic aspect of it. Although I don't agree fully with the austerity inflicted genocide being a direct result of EU regulations. The UK could have chosen to cut a number of things like corporate benefits for example, or just not went for Austerity at all. It wasn't like in the case of Greece were they could just strong arm us into doing whatever they wanted.

You could be right, but it is my understanding that politicians in the UK have literally no authority. There is a piece of legislation that a nation must sign when entering the EU which essentially states that EU law supersedes any national law. This would not have been a problem if the EU had a limited amount of laws to impose upon its member nations. But, in the last decade enough laws have been implemented to effectively negate any national laws that stood prior to new EU legislation.

UK politicians have no power. Everything you see on TV is all just an act to disguise the unfathomable omnipotence of the EU. Because Brexit would have happened a fucking long time ago if people really knew who was running their country. Some unelected aristocracy hiding away in a castle in Brussels, and fuck knows who they are subservient to.

The EU have had control over our agriculture, fisheries, external trade, and the environment law. Our beaches were a mess before the EU forced us to clean them up.
But the EUs influence is limited over welfare and social security, education, criminal law, family law and the NHS.

Based on data from the UK Statute Law database, from 1980 to the end of 2009, out of 1,302 UK Acts between 1980 and 2009 (excluding those later repealed), 186 Acts or 14.3% incorporated a degree of EU influence. The breakdown was as follows:
55 made passing reference to EU obligations.
96 implemented one or more EU laws but not as the main elements of the law.
17 implemented three or more EU measures.
18 implemented EU obligations as the main purpose of the Act

Although the house of commons library has claimed there is no rational or accurate way to measure how many of our laws come from the EU due to the complicated nature of it all.
All I know is I don't really know 😊

Part of Glasgow, as well as many other locations in the UK, were flooded over recent years because the EU had decided to ban the dredging of rivers. Mainstream media will defend these accusations and tell you that it was actually climate change that caused this, but when you know that climate change is a load of shite, the true cause becomes rather evident. So, these regulations are not all good in terms of the environment.

Also, I think you are misunderstanding the point I am making. I'm alleging that UK laws enacted by parliament are a dog and pony show, for they are invalid if the EU has a law that negates it. They just keep doing this shit because it gives the appearance of the UK parliament having any level of authority over what happens in the UK, but they do not.

There is something called "The Supremacy of EU Law." If you look it up you will see that a number of cases, decided by the European Court of Justice, have established that EU law rules over national law.

EU law also rules over any member state's national constitution. This means that any EU treaty laws take direct effect in the UK, as well as all other EU nations, and if there is a conflicting law in place in any country, the EU law is given precedent.

Now add the fact that the EU have been implementing so many laws in recent years that the UK does not even have the man power to keep up with the processing and adding it to UK legislation, and we find, or at least, I find, that the UK is not operating under UK law at all. It is under EU law.

I hope I explained that well enough, because you know, law is intentionally fucking difficult to explain.

Yeah it is very complicated. Thanks for explaining. Although what I said before about EUs influence over UK law doesn't include soft law, and the "supremacy law" you talk of, and much more other ways they influence us.
I like the idealism of the EU, but they have shown their true colours in recent times.

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