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RE: Germany is lost and I have to go

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so you call yourself libertarian and voluntaryist, wanting to abolish governments, and still you're all for borders, imaginary lines through the landscape?

sometimes i'm mind-boggled about how people like you can even survive for a minute without their head exploding because of vast cognitive dissonances like this.

"früher war alles besser". you're just a 08/15 reactionary neo-con. with people like you history would merely repeat over and over again.

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In private law system some communities also would have boarders. With my critizism on asylum politics I criticize that there aren't any background checks of immigrants, so many criminals invade Europe in the name of real refugees.

You don't need a wall if you stop paying people to come. You think they go to Germany for the sunny beaches and mild winters? They go there cause they know they can bully them out of cash and impose Islam on infidels. They go out of their way to cross multiple countries with compatible religions to do it. Where there's a welfare state, you need borders. It's not cognitive dissonance.

In private law system some communities also would have boarders

Hooray for gated communities and Hoppe-style fascism. In the face of this inequality, we'll have riots in the streets that will never end. But as Orwell said, War is Peace!

Also, these "communities" will band together to be stronger and practically become nation states again. As said, you'd merely be repeating history.

so many criminals invade Europe in the name of real refugees.

according to your credible news sources, for sure.

Please refrain from the misuse of the world fascism by tying it to the name of Hans-Herrmann Hoppe. Are you basically saying that we need centralized goverment to stop of from running amok because life is inherently "unfair" and governments can make this unfairness go away without creating even bigger unfairness? So should we call the cops to police us here?
I thought this is what this is all about: https://steemit.com/philosophy/@dantheman/our-corrupt-sense-of-fairness

@fabio The devil may come in many different clothes, I stay true to my opinion that Hoppe is a crypto-fascist.

There can be no tolerance toward democrats and communists in a libertarian social order. They will have to be physically separated and expelled from society. Likewise, in a covenant founded for the purpose of protecting family and kin, there can be no tolerance toward those habitually promoting lifestyles incompatible with this goal. They – the advocates of alternative, non-family and kin-centred lifestyles such as, for instance, individual hedonism, parasitism, nature-environment worship, homosexuality, or communism – will have to be physically removed from society, too, if one is to maintain a libertarian order."

---from his book "Democracy, the God that failed"

How could such "physical removal" "from society" be possibly enforced in a "libertarian" "free" society? Only possible with a "private" SS-like police force.

Sure, ignore the mass rape and murder being inflicted on a weekly basis by muslim 'refugees'. Ignore the fact that the existence of the state is the reason the assailants prey on European countries giving out free cash in the form of welfare. Does calling your opponent a NAZI make you feel good about yourself?

To whom are you talking? I think "herzmeister" and I know the problem of taxation and governments. I think he refers to the welfare state, so to point out that the absence of it would also make boarders irrelevant.

my reply was meant for hermeister, not you. Obviously you understand the problem, but he prefers to call anyone who points out the immigration problem to be a NAZI . Much like you talked about in the article. I appreciate your point of view and hope you're able to find a more sane place to live.

Thanks! Sorry that I got it wrong.

where exactly was the word 'nazi'? i did not find it.

@blackeyed - '"früher war alles besser". you're just a 08/15 reactionary neo-con. with people like you history would merely repeat over and over again.'

That is just a really verbose way to call someone a NAZI

lol, yeah, mass murdering and rape all around every day, surely according to your faithful "alternative" news sources. bush and rumsfeld, please come and save us from all those evil muslim terrorists! you're such a pitiful propaganda victim.

Enjoy the consequences and stand up for your opinion when time comes to look for those who helped destroy Germany

Are you seriously not watching the news dude? Hundreds of women raped and sexually assaulted on new years eve in Cologne? Sweden becoming the rape and sexual assault capital of the world? Hundreds of people dying in terrorist attacks in France and Germany? That's not propaganda, its a pile of corpses.

There were 9 dead at the recent incident in Munich, not "hundreds". And this doesn't happen every week. Seriously, I don't know why I'm wasting time with you discussing this. Also the shooter was rather a xenophobe, much like you. Yes, violence in society in general is a big problem. But it's way too simplistic to blame it all on Islam or whatever.

@herzmeister - The Munich shooter was IRANIAN-German, in country for only a couple of years. That's a little inconvenience for your bullshit story about a xenophobic Caucasian German, isn't it? And the Bastille day attack? The axe wielding Afghan in southern Germany? What's the common denominator genius? Its amazingly racist to brush off a pile of victims being targeted by a specific demographic as long as the victims are white.

@zorrotmm The Munich shootings happened on the anniversary of the Breivik incident, the terms Iran and Aryan are etymologically related, that's why some Iranians may identify with Aryan-racist thinking, all victims in Munich had a migration background. There were 5 "terror"-like incidents in Germany this year, with 11 fatalities in total. Seriously, why am I wasting time if you can't adhere to the basic facts, I'm done discussing with you.

Oh I get it, you're one of those negative Nancey Nihilists. It's a false dychonomy you're pitching here. Just cause we acknowledge Islam as a problem and cultural homogeneity as a benefit doesn't mean we sanction the military industrial complex and their aggressive foreign policy of imperialism. We fully agree that it was wrong to poke the hornets nest that is the middle east when it was slowly but surely reforming. Islam was on the decline, Iran and Afghanistan used to look a lot like America before the 50's. The CIA fucked shit up in the worst way and need to stand trial. And their is not comparison between a purely defensive structure like a wall to drone bombings and depleted uranium bullets of the Bush and Obama Administrations.

Unless you have some suggestions? Or are you just here to talk down to us?

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