#reclaimingLondon
I am not a bigot. I am not anti-immigration. And I am certainly not a racist.
If you have just six minutes of spare time please watch this video. Learn from the mistakes of Britain and what successive British governments have done to their own people. Make sure it doesn't happen to your country.
Every country struggles with issues of their times.
I am not insensitive.
I am not pro immigration
and I am certainly not a racist either
I can feel the pain of the man who was speaking of these words. In fact I am writing as I listen to him speak. I understand that no man should suffer on the behalf of another. No matter how trivial that suffering might be.
I also understand that a person has aright to expect more from his land of birth and believe that his own people won't let suffer for the mistakes of others.
I also know that it is the fate of the nation which once conquered the world to struggle with immigration. I believe a nation with such capacity can come out on top of this without being broken down by it.
I come from a country that was once ruled by the English. Our wealth was drained and we were left to bleed but that is what history is. We hurt each other, suffer through pain and then learn to rise above it all.
The true victory lies in the fact that we all be able to be what we are and still look with respect at each other.
There is little left to say but that let us all be sure that as our passion for our countries comes forth, then it not be at the cost of blinding us to our own pain and at the pain of others.
................Respect
Thank you for your reply. The British empire was the most civilised empire the world has ever known. And the only reason why it is still referred to in a modern day context is due to the fact it was the last great empire. However, it is patently obvious that what once was is well in the past and that British governments have been taken over by globalist forces. It makes no difference really who is in government because immigrants still keep pouring in. Thankfully we now have Brexit on the way and a major statement has been expressed by the British people to their government - we are not happy with mass immigration. That will help. And at least we have Trump in America. Things are changing for sure. Whether we can push this all back and return to better days I really don't know. But there is a chance.
I am not sure what to make of this. The maker seems to want to have his cake and eat it, it seems to me. He says he is not racist, but ends with a call to arms to his fellow white people. Who will they fight? The powers that be? Sorry, I don't buy it for a minute.
See the thing is, I do get it to some degree. I understand that the landscape has changed, and I get that a lot of British people look on at the changing demographic with despair as the country they grew up become unrecognisable from a few decades ago.
I understand that they didn't get asked if this is okay, but that's kind of how democracy works. Governments don't seek permission to do stuff. They try to get in power, and then they do what they want.
I absolutely understand that it is very hard to try and have a discussion about concerns regarding the mass immigration that has occurred in the last decade or so, and I know how dreadful the "intellectual" left are when faced with anything that veers outside their dogma.
I get all of that.
But what do you think this video is really about?
Oh, and how TF did they manage to scapegoat Jeremy Corbyn in all this? Shows an agenda, doesn't it?
You seemed to give this a fair evaluation and leant it a seemingly neutral perspective, but you give yourself away. Right at the end you question how do they rope Jeremy Corbyn into all of this? Well I distinctly saw Tony Blair and David Cameron in the sequence you're referring to also, in fact they were more prominent. The only agenda is to reclaim our country and that may mean a fight. The toxic form of globalism that the elites subscribe to, and they are in all political parties, is massively aided by the liberal left.
I'm not neutral and I don't claim to be. Neither are you. I am not sure how I gave myself away, or, indeed, what that even means. Yes, I saw Cameron and Blair there, and of course they are complicit in all this. This mass immigration happened on their watch. Sticking in Corbyn - who has nothing to do with it - shows their agenda. I don't remember seeing May, but perhaps she was there, but as the home secretary for five years, she is as responsible as anyone.
Yeah, you know, this "reclaim our country" thing is a euphemism. Why don't you say what you mean? You mean a civil war. And you know - it's never going to happen. There isn't the stomach for this fight.
Who are the "elites", by the way? I see them referred to all the time, but I don't know who they are.
And explain to me, please, about this all powerful liberal left. There hasn't been a left wing party in power for forty years, yet somehow, left wing politics are responsible for so many of our ills.
Genuinely, I do understand many of the issues pertaining to mass immigration. I am not blind to them, but I don't understand what the rhetoric of this propaganda piece is going to achieve. I am sorry to break it to you, but the Pandora's box of mass immigration is open, there's no closing it. I do think that mistakes have been made, but it is what it is now.
There will be no civil war, and people who are legally here will stay here.
ETA - Let's assume that you achieve your goal here, and "reclaim" London. What is it you are reclaiming, and who are you reclaiming it from? And by "reclaim", presumably you mean that you want to shift the demographic. To what? 100% white? 90%? What would satisfy you? Let's take 90% as an example. All hospitals would collapse. There wouldn't be enough staff to sustain them. And not just hospitals - services would collapse left, right and centre.
Who gets to stay? What criteria would you use? Where would the line be drawn?
See, it seems to me that these immigrants are now a part of the fabric of the UK (or London, if you want to make this distinction), and you can't just cut them out and think that everything will carry on as normal.
Honestly, I think I do understand your perspective, but the solution that you seem to be advocating a) has no chance of working and b) even if it did, the fallout would be appalling on so many levels. And to achieve what, exactly? A return to what? Some white Utopia?
It seems to me that if this is bothering you so much, you need to change tact if you really want to make a difference. I want to add though that I genuinely want to discuss this. I know I am disagreeing with you, but I am being civil, and I am attempting to be constructive. I do not know what it is you are actually suggesting here, because it all seems so unfeasible and unlikely.
It is abundantly clear that your thinking is completely influenced by the globalist agenda. That agenda is apparent in all political parties, mostly though in the Labour party and left leaning political parties. There is about 36% of the Conservative Party and the right which is true conservatism, that is the bit I can work with.
You actually believe that if we asked all immigrants to leave our society would collapse? You don't mean that surely. No country is dependent on another. The fact that you think it is demonstrates how influenced you have become by the liberal elites.
Our education system is overwhelmingly staffed by left leaning educators and so is the syllabus. It is now the that 8 out of 10 university lecturers are left leaning. The majority of teachers vote Labour. We have a mainstream media dominated by liberal globalist journalism. You must see it all around? But it seems to me you choose to ignore all of these things.
In answer to your question, London should be no more than 15% non-white. Why our governments chose to let the London population change to 45% white where a white person is in the minority is very strange indeed. Even you must ask yourself why would any British government let that happen? Why would they do that to their own people?
You know, you are guilty of using ad hominen tactics here. I am not getting all pissy or offended, but in blithely declaring that I am a victim of the "globalist agenda" you are criticising me, and not what I am saying. It's weak.
I still don't understand how this "globalist agenda" has managed to do what you say it has done. Where did they get their power from? Western politics is, by and large, dominated by centrist to right governments. Not right wing enough for you, clearly, but certainly not left wing enough to have been able to apply this agenda you say exists.
Uh, who argued that it was?
Uh, no, I didn't say that. I said that services would. 26% of doctors in the NHS are immigrants. The NHS is appallingly understaffed as it is. What happens if you get your way and you return London to being 85% white? And where did you get 85% from?
And who TF are these all powerful "liberal elites"? Seriously, where do these liberal boogie men live?
What conclusions are we supposed draw re the educators? That they are all a part of a liberal elite conspiracy? If that's the case, why do we have the most right wing government in power since Thatcher? Why is the gap between the rich and poor widening?
It is not that I ignore all "these things". I just don't use them to draw exaggerated, unsubstantiated conclusions.
Honestly, I think mass immigration is more down to hubris and ineptitude than anything else. I do not think that it was a distinct plan or policy. I know, you do. But you have very little to back that up.
You have ignored many of my point and questions. I get that, these replies would become small novels if we stuck to every point. But please, answer me this, because I think it central to this exchange.
How do you think you will get back to 85% white? What mechanism will achieve this? And what do you think this demographic shift will actually mean?
I am in no way using ad hominem tactics whatsoever, you just don't like or agree with what I'm saying, and that is because you have not done your research. The facts are out there. If you consider that as a form of personal criticism then that is a matter for you. I am not ignoring the points you raise I am addressing them entirely.
You are indeed a victim of the globalist agenda or you are a supporter of it. From what you have said thus far it seems to me you are a victim of it, as you come across as reasonably intelligent but under researched.
You argued that 'all hospitals would collapse. There wouldn't be enough staff to sustain them. And not just hospitals - services would collapse left, right and centre.' That is utter nonsense. We are not dependent on another country which by your very own statement is what you're saying.
You clearly take everything going on in your society at face value and are not prepared to look at what is going on behind the scenes. You believe that the governments who are elected control everything when they do not, in many cases they are simply puppets. You need to ask yourself who is pulling those strings?
You need to look at the Bank of England, the mainstream news media, television broadcasters and their content and the agenda behind their content. The BBC and Channel 4 springs to mind as the worst purveyors of globalist Marxist content.
Try researching liberals such as George Soros and his chums the Rothschilds and Rockerfellers. There's your starting point. Who controls the Bank of England?
In answer to your question the only way to reclaim London would be for a true Conservative government, not that of Mrs. May's, to have the courage to implement firm policies that significantly reduce further inward migration. Then we need to incentivise many of the foreign nationals who have already settled here to return to their native countries. If all that fails then sadly only violence will resolve the situation ending in a period of martial law.
You gave yourself away right from the beginning when you jumped to the defence of Jeremy Corbyn and provided a false statement that the video sequence only focused on him, therefore apparently 'scapegoating' him.
Ugh, I'm sure my country can learn a heck of a lot from your country regardless of what's happening.
Here in South Africa everyone always talks about going to the UK to work and to live there.
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Hmm, could you elaborate on what you're saying? Did you watch the entire video? It is worrying that so many countries are filled with people trying to reach Britain and other western countries.
As a Turk, i can understand you in many ways.
I'd like to hear this one. Please do elaborate.
Let me ask you two questions;
1- Where are the immigrants coming from?
2- What forced them to do that?
Good questions, @besduyu..... an old african adage says....The evil that men do lives after them
The immigrants come from African, Afghanistan and middle east
what forced them....
UK recently declassified a document seeking to nuke oil fields in the middle east if they werent going to be able to seize it, or if the soviet union seized it first. How this played out today is UK and USA subtle support for terrorism (remember the arming of mujadeen...now taliban to bleed the soviets).
The UK's unequivocal support for USA demonic hegemony have had it repercussion....the USA have spent or is close to spending 20 years dealing with the problem they created with UK's help.
Also look at UK's weapons sale to Saudi Arabia....What are they using it for....Bombing Yemenis and you think UK wont pay for it, one way or the other
Remember, Karma is a bitch
UK is paying a price by gradually moving from Christianity to Atheism to Islam...
Yes indeed the British people are paying a price for the reckless actions of our government. When did our governments ever check with us to authorise those military interventions you speak about? They never did. They were, and are, deeply unpopular policies and we were never asked if we wanted them. Our governments will just do it anyway. They do not give a damn about what the British think.
We have a huge problem with our establishment over here at least America now has Trump who is not a globalist and actually cares about the country he has been elected to serve. You need to understand that our governments have been taken over by globalist elitist forces which is what lies behind all of the sickening unnecessary wars and economic enslavement we have to endure.
If you blame all of this on the people of a country then you are very wrong.
The immigrants are coming from all over the world because they do not want to fight for better economic and social conditions in their own country. The reason they are here is due to the fact our governments invited them here. Our governments do not speak for the people.
they do not want to fight? Ohh man,
"Yes indeed the British people are paying a price for the reckless actions of our government. When did our governments ever check with us to authorise those military interventions you speak about? They never did. They were, and are, deeply unpopular policies and we were never asked if we wanted them. Our governments will just do it anyway. They do not give a damn about what the British think."
You are very very confused. When "Brits destroyed X country- ohh its was not us, it was bunch of elitist" and when it comes to imigrants "fight for your country" Fight who? Be honest man.
Everybody wants to live proper life.
What exactly is your point? What are you trying to say? We now know that successive British governments have not been defending or protecting the British people, that's a fact. Do some simple research. You need to understand that in Britain global Marxist elites have hijacked our governments, as they have in many western countries which is why we get horrendous policies like the Iraq war which no British person wants.
I saw that video on Facebook from 'Britain first' where muslim immigrants warn the locals they will take over the country soon.Im far from being a racist as well,but that was outrageous,you can't treat your host who helped you when you were in need,like that!
Precisely, well said.
Your country is not the only one having this situation. Take a look at Sweden and Germany. All the big countries have gone through this immigrants flow situations. It is the decision of a handful of people that rule the political system. The political system is just a puppet. All is done to mix races and destroy every culture and nation possible and than the new world order will be accomplished. Unfortunately my country is still fighting against its own corruption...
Hey @acesontop, thanks for stopping by and thanks also for your comment. Absolutely what is happening in the video is also taking place in other western countries. Remember we are fighting a very damaging form of global communism. Which country do you live in?
Romania...I know well what communism is.
Why is it that whites have to give up their countries lest they be considered racists? Where is this obligation from, that is so unique as to afflict only whites?
Maybe it's a biological response, that foreign groups attempt to subvert the dominant given the slightest moment of weakness; perhaps that's inevitable. If you were truly vying for a society that is not detrimental to the host, nor intolerant of different people, it has to be a society where the host people are unabashed, unrepentant, and steadfast about who they are; are the prevailing majority and conscious; the minorities must submit to the host - it cannot be done any other way.
The pain and anguish will soon turn into anger, and then no one is going to care to be called racist, and they may even be just that.