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RE: Purpose & Pizzagate

in #pizzagate8 years ago

To your point about the need for contrast or opposites, then I ask, is there such thing as super-humanly good? What would the exact opposite or "opposing good" be to a satan-worshiping pedophile or a cannibal who performs ritualistic sacrifice of children? Even better, what's the worst thing you can think of that someone could do to another in this world, then conversely, what would the "equal and opposite" good be to that? Not to get too religious, but for me in my thoughts and experiences, it always comes down to Jesus Christ as the 'ultimate good'; the opposition to the most evil things in this world. In my researching, I've seen some evil stuff - evil is the only word that I can use to describe it - maybe even super-humanly evil.. So knowing there can be such evil in this world, based on the 'equal and opposite' principle, there has to also be such good as well, and that's what I try to focus on - the good.

In that vain, I agree, you cannot completely blot out the evil from consciousness - its needed so you know that there can be an equal amount of good in this world as well - it just becomes up to you which one you allow to exist in your conscious, and thus subconscious, and thoughts on a regular basis.

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There isn't such a thing a superhumanly good just as there isn't it's opposite. That concept seeks to paint one as more than and it's not getting anywhere since no universal moral maxim exists, and then even if everyone can be judged on and in consistency with everyone else, the act itself isn't proactive in the least, it's merit is clearly questionable. These judgements are stemming from reaction and emotion and belief and not logic.

Saying "for me in my thoughts and experiences" isn't inviting conversation, especially when your thoughts and experiences are tied to a myth and that myth is the basis for what you say as the opposite of most evil. One step further, the meme of me and my experiences is hardly non reactive, the stance of mitigating discussion in the corner of "subjective" vs "objective" is your choice. The implication of "for me in my thoughts and experiences" aside and putting wrongs and evil aside, granted this discussion is about pointing fingers, pegging blame, and that is not to dismiss it what so ever. The reality is that there's these people out there and that yes they could be called landlords of the planet, in fact to the rest of the universe for all we know these people, not "beings", are probably flesh and blood feeling thinking conscious ambassadors to different worlds simply because of an almost unfathomable amount of influence. Sacrificing infants, eating infants, injecting infant blood to stay younger, fucking and killing kids, hunting kids, murdering anyone who stands in their way, erasing those who dare to expose them, just the number of microbiologists that have died since 9/11 is outrageously high, and that's because these people have a hammer and they use it, they use it in our language, and so in turn on our mind, our thinking faculty.
So then.. Why are we so afraid of even looking at the depravity? What is it that scares us when we look at that depravity that we disconnect these people, these human beings and paint them as something other than a hairless monkey? Be it they have far more complex and incredibly specific functions or purposes than to have a family and all that, they too are simply doing monkey, can you say that they know what they are doing? Hell no, you will eat your words as soon as you open your mouth and say that. I am not saying to excuse their actions and responsibility for those acts. Their action's direct consequences, those which form their needs, but primarily for the need to be private and covering up their deeds at all cost is what we are seeing now. It is a simple mathematical equation describing exponential increase, could there be a reality where truth doesn't come to light? Where deceit and ignorance are all pervasive?
But first, what warrants this other worldly status of super and what is it communicating? What makes people reactive is either intended to or not and so it bears on this situation as it plays into their hands. Can people converse much in a situation precipitating with emotion of fear or one where fantasy is purported as reality?
Fear vs love is flawed because you put fear as opposite to love and said, fear is nowhere near love, cast it out. Maybe you are the director of these "emotions", but outside the idea of "control" there is attention and focus. Yes, completely unhindered about "should" and "could" and very much empty of all other concepts. Focusing and becoming aware of my emotions is about all I can do, once you start directing what you should feel you have opened yourself to suffering what you shouldn't feel. So then ,the moment you lose control, the moment fear has seeped in, there isn't anything but a reaction to repress that because of a certain "feels" which goes contrary to common sense. With that idea of should/could, you would need to pay attention and then cast out fear and replace it with love, and that is how you want to benefit, the value you gained from that is not just a better ability at turning fear into love, but you didn't let those fears wreak havoc on your consciousness..
Somewhere in that idea lies a lesson about the wisdom of detachment, misconstrued as it is. What about the maxim of embrace your demons, welcome and treat your fear like a guest?LINK Do I think these child molesting baby eating individuals have demons and they are embracing them in the form of baby eating child sex? Maybe they embraced their demons and that led them to those actions? Their demons probably stem from the consequences of being so private or in others case of being found out, and their freedom lies then in embracing a more open life I think, the freedom from their demons is not running away from their demons, demonising these people isn't going to bring justice, isn't going to mitigate some anger, isn't going to help, their actions have repercussions and they are responsible for those consequences. The question is, what to do again, and all you can do is voice your concerns, spread the information, don't succumb to labeling ideas, situations or people as negative and let a certain fear of contamination direct what you can't look at, what you can't research, and ultimately what you can't understand. There's plenty of questions to be asked. How you choose your direction, are you inviting conversation by being specific, by being grounded in reality and not myth? As uninviting as I come off, it's up to you to question and understand in a manner that invites and doesn't provoke, or evoke sentiments but thoughts.

Lol, after reading that I don't even know wtf we were talking about anymore. I asked some pretty straight forward questions and got a pile of text-puke in return seemingly unrelated to any sense of discourse I thought I was engaged in. Touche, I guess?

Pointing out that sharing my opinion is "not inviting conversation" or not inviting you to share your opinion? Asking questions isn't inviting? Isn't that all you did here though; share your opinion that my opinion isn't somehow valid? Does that invalidate your opinion by default as well? You have a lot of thought on what other people need to do, I suppose you've reached the pinnacle of a secularist human and have nothing left to aspire to? Nothing left in life or death to look forward to? No worthy advice to seek or listen to? You've become the myth-god you're so against? The arbiter of logicality?

Your research has shown these people believe in Satan and Satanic rituals, right? They would tell you it doesn't matter if you believe it or not, it only matters that they do. They are having super-human experiences. Your choice of refusing to believe that they believe this doesn't change it any. They will continue to pursue their goals through their belief and participation in spiritual warfare in this plane of existence and any others, while you're stuck here refusing to acknowledge they are operating at a plane clearly beyond your secularist ability of comprehension, in my opinion.

I'm not going to respond to any more discussion of your opinion being any more or less valid, logical or mythy than anyone elses. Though I'm happy to continue any discussion that isn't based in lifting yourself above the rest of us who's beliefs simply differ from yours.

So it only matters that they believe in it, so let's repeat it again, it doesn't matter what you or I believe about it, or of it, it has no bearing on it, then why bring it up? To say that because of their belief they are having super human experiences? And I choose to refuse to believe that they believe that? What gave you that notion? Because I hadn't used the word worship, satan, ritual, and the implications of those concepts?
There's nothing specific in your points, let me reiterate the discussion:
Your Opinion:These superhumanly evil people, are mean and they hurt your mind space and soul.
They are not superhumanly evil people, they are people who do evil things and quantifying or qualifying the evil won't dispel evil, making them otherworldly and contrasting them with a myth or being able to quantify their evil will not bring understanding, justice, won't make conversation more interesting or novel, hell, understanding that evil is banal should be about all the understanding one needs, evil is systemic and thrives in secrecy, in these circles evil is norm, as you know, so let's say that it's a "superhumanly evil" thing and they in turn are superhumanly evil, they are so much more evil and doesn't make a difference either way. If you don't believe in them or if you do they will continue to pursue their goals.
So the discussion, has once again been cornered.

Pointing out that sharing my opinion is "not inviting conversation" or not inviting you to share your opinion?

Exactly, but you didn't even point out your opinion, you validated it into an experience, how can I say anything about your thoughts and your experience when you're making statements like "for me it always comes down to a myth being my compass for superhumanly good". Yes, get mad at me making a valid point, your experience and thoughts are of a myth. So what, the matter isn't about Jebus or whatever deity or myth you follow, it's not about their worship or how valid it is, it's not about their experiences or how "super" they are, and I never invited opinion, has never been a discussion about belief. I will point out that your remark about what it boils down to, isn't going to make discussion, fuck, how did you envision someone taking a remark like "I don't know about you but I believe in JC as ultimate super great"? A: I too believe in that. B: I don't know what to believe. C: I think it comes down to the golden rule. D: It wasn't a question of belief, ever, it was always about recognizing that superhumanly evil, that demonizing people, regardless of their actions will not bring understanding or value to the situation. And then what was your point? To Meet up with A and do bible study? To discuss jesus to b? To agree with C and echo the sentiments therein? Or to laugh at that audacity, of calling your sentiment a myth, and call my arguments into ridicule because gosh darn logic, gosh darn do I even have anything to live for. Weren't you the one giving out free advice to everyone in the form of memes from the last 25 years of self help garbage? I clearly remember reading your "purpose" or "a purpose" as, yeah, clearly you have it figured out if you freely give unwarranted advice.

How about you point out exactly what you're laughing at, or exactly what my opinions are which erupted your hemorrhoids.

Here's some other inviting information besides the mention of Erin Rothschild.

echoing my point: that these people aren't super anything, more like super lame child molesting child murdering baby eating individuals.

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