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RE: MyPictureDay Challenge Round #16 + Winners announcement Round #15
Wow! You must not of reversed searched very hard... The rules indicate the pictures had to be taken the week of the event!
This pictures were not. In fact Place number three was taken December 2016!
The first picture metadata show 2016 as well:
and has been posted to the person square space for some time.
Contestant #2 should be defaulted to First place, and two more contestants should be chosen.
Disappointing for others...
Thank you for all the comments and your time. I came to the conclusion that the winners stay. However, in the coming contest, those who do not stick with the rules are disqualified. Furthermore, I will make sure to write the rules on the top of the post instead of the end. The essence of the contest is to get people out and make them move, let them take pictures and be creative. If you use old pictures you might become lazy in this case, I agree. Thank you @imlikett.
May I ask if you want to join the jury?
Wow if this is true. They really should do something about it. It would be a disgrace to let cheaters get away with this. Hope this isnt the the case. Thanx anyways for the triple check
In fact, a lot of the contest entries they have don't follow the rules.
I won't be participating in the next one, if contest winners and runner ups are just posting their best instagram photos from years ago, with no effort.
@Timsaid you need to spend more time into tracking down these pics. If you just reverse image search on google, you won't find them, as that's not really effective anymore. Most sites, like instagram, strip meta data, and google can't find pics buried in square space or 500px style portfolios.
It should be required for people to time stamp with proof of them taking the picture on that day some how.
I checked it and you are right. The pictures were not taken this week. However I did a reserve search to make sure they are the photographers and the content is theirs. So we have two options now: 1) We change the rules for the futures contests, that people can use any of THEIR pictures or 2) people that use old images are disqualified. What do you think?
I don't like idea 1. This just makes people lazy, and it makes it hard to compete with people who have a huge portfolio already that they can just use for every challenge.
Option 2 is the best. You must use recent pics. The picture must contain the meta data for the date (however if you really wanted to cheat, people could change the meta data.) It would help though.
You could make a rule people have to post a selfie of them at the scene where they are taking the picture holding a steemit logo with their user name on paper and post their edited photo.
Sorry to butt in here but just wanted to give my opinion. First I think the winners deserve the win. The photos are great. But I think going forward allowing older pictures would change the challenge.
I enjoy the fact that I have to come up with something new each week. It pushes me to try different things and to actually get out and take pictures every week.
From my previous comment you can see the stats on not following the rules on putting mypictureday in the title. So it would be conceivable that others did not read the part about the photos being from the week of the contest.
Looking back... last week I didn't post what camera I used. So I guess we tend to read what we want to read.
As far as going forward maybe just explaining in the rules what will happen when photos are found to be old, might solve the issue. Obviously the community is going to check whether or not the content is owned by the winners. That's something most new steemian's find out quickly.
Another option for going forward is that if something like this is found after the winners are posted the winnings are split among the one or two other winners.
As examples - In this case it would go the 2nd place winner. But if it was only third place that had old photos those winnings would be split between 1st and 2nd place.
I know it takes a lot of your time to judge and review all the entries. Adding searches for other social media post would probably be unreasonable.
Again, Thank you @timsaid!
Sorry to cause such an uproar on my first submission. @timsaid please let me know what you decision is. Im happy the work speaks for itself and its an honor to be alongside so many talented involved in this competition.
i didn't take part in this contest, but i would in the future. Do not change your word even though everything is complicated now. comply with your rules
I read your comments now and I honestly did not remember the rule that the photo must be of the week. My mistake.
If I went against the rules, I do not deserve the third position.
Timsaid will know what to do.
If timsaid decides that the rule is that the photos must be taken in the week, then my participation in this week is not regular
Yours and @feeling.light's photos are awesome. I would want to show them off too. What I had commented earlier was just my opinion about clarifying the rules in case something like that happens again.
It is easy to overlook parts of the rules. I did. I forgot to put in the camera I used. From what I have gathered using steemdata, 75 post out of 178 using the #mypictureday tag didn't put it in the title. Leaving 103 post that were correct with the tag. (That's a lot of pictures look through and judge! Thank you again @timsaid)
Now I am sure that some of those just seen others using the tag and wanted to use it too. But I also see a lot of users that put both tags in and don't post three pictures. I guess people (myself included) just see what we want to see.
I personally am going continue to do the same thing I have been doing even if the rules change. I think that is the best part of the challenge. It is also what differentiates this challenge from others here on steemit. I also think my photography is improving from just the few weeks I have been participating in the challenge.
I have a feeling that you, @feeling.light and others who have won in the past will still show the same consistent quality no matter if it is taken the same week of the contest or not.
Thank you for your exhaustive answer and for your understanding.
The rule of the week in my opinion is limiting, because it means that all old photos can not be used, depriving the community to appreciate them.
In my opinion, eliminating this limit will benefit from the average quality of the photos.
Just my humble opinion. The rules should be the rules. The more strict the rules, hopefully the better the content. One might argue that they don't have a good photograph for the current week. However, it seems that the challenge is not only about the photograph, but the day or story as well.
What @timsaid decides for the past winners (who did not meet the requirements) is ultimately up to him. Since its his challenge and his rules. While of course using the community for feedback when deciding.
Having said that.... I think another thing that might be helpful, if possible, would be to indicate:
Looking forward to participating in future MPD challenges!
Cheers!
I think the uniqueness of this contest is partly in the rule that only recent photos are eligible, and I think it's a great rule as it gives us impetus to go experiment, so I hope you'll keep it. All photography contests require entries to be original, but this one had an extra rule that allows only certain entries to qualify - which I think makes it stand out. As for this week's contest issue, I personally think the rules were clear and the winners should be disqualified, although we should not read motives/intentions in their posting these photos. They may have simply not read the rules carefully, but that is one's responsibility as a contestant. If other contestants followed the rules, they should have a fair chance of winning these spots.
I'm agree the winner must be changed! Every participant must follow rules. And to avoid misunderstandings, it may be worth publishing in each post at the end of the participation rule. And also track plagiarism and spam. As an example I can offer contests hosted by @ czechglobalhosts or some one else.