Do We Have Free Will Or Is Everything Predetermined?

in #philosophy6 years ago


I take you from explaining the spatial dimensions all the way to whether or not we have free will based on whether or not we exist in the 4th, 5th, or even 6th dimension. Crazy stuff. Let me know what you think!

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Great breakdown! I have had this discussion a few times with my coworkers and it goes right above their heads. I love the plug of possibilities 😁

I think you are right when you state the free will to change the time line we are in, looking at the double slit experiment I think proves it’s our perception that manifests reality around us. Now I believe we are a slice of the higher dimension yet I don’t think we are determined otherwise the existence of the lower dimension would not be required from the perspective of a being that could be greater then time itself.

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I've tried discussing this with my coworkers in the past as well just to get blank stares. I usually end the conversations with those people like this: oh... haha, no. I haven't seen that show on TV. I do not watch TV. Sounds like you like stuff that's pretty simple, huh?

hahaha

Pretty well just 🤦‍♂️ and walk away thinking why do I bother your not awake yet!

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double slit experiment = brain wasting nonesense.

it's a complete experiment that is proven. It's not a hypothesis, it's an objective truth.

a coin has two sides you are simply overindulging on one side instead of seeing the coin. that experiment proves nothing and is false. cheers.

To understand the yin one must understand the yang

Exactly, how do people not understand the implications this experiment has on how we understand the reality we can perceive? There is so much more that we cannot!

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Yes exactly, so key

Exactly which we would attribute to "God" usually
Awesome feedback, I'm sure you have alot of those situations

I figure we are god in some respects, god is energy and energy is vibration which science proves everything is vibrating so everything is god? I start down the rabbit hole of simulation theory at about this point but without the context of technology that we currently understand, would not technology seem as if were magic or a phenomenon say we don’t understand the fundamentals of the higher reality it extends from? Déjà vu... the point at which a change is made and we only experience the moment as a forgotten possibly? Yea I go off on a tangent correlating theory that usually does not intersect yet this is the direction quantum physics is going, stepping into the realm of the untestable possibilities.

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Well it's like Neil degrasse Tyson says that anything happening above our dimension couldn't be observable in ours. However, we could observe phenomena as a result of something in the dimension above us. It makes me wonder is the 5th dimension what gives us free will, or at least more of a concept of it.

I would think the fifth dimension is what gives us the concept of time and the ability to perceive it passing I would then speculate that it must be one of the higher dimensions at least the sixth which would bring the concept of free will into the equation. Who’s to really say what is all encapsulated within the dimensions we cannot yet perceive.

So awesome to see embracing the “WTF” questions! Sometimes I feel crazy thinking about these things, yay I’m not alone 😅

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Haha you're not alone indeed! So my major question is does a part of us exist within the 5th and 6th dimension and that's what enables free will or are we bound in the 4th and below with predetermined action?

What we perceive as time is the light and shadow of perception passing through the 8th dimension. All of reality is an infinite quantum fractal pattern, stretching through every possibility. What you describe as free will to choose which timeline you are on I would describe as shifting your perception into a different section of that quantum fractal.

More food for thought: The yin yang is a two dimensional representation of a four dimensional infinity symbol as viewed from within. Do you choose to go toward the light?

Wow really awesome insight! To answer your question do I go towards the light, no. I understand I am the light and the darkness equally and I'm not going towards or away from anything but the things I create

if time is the fourth dimension it should be possible to move in several directions in time for a four dimensional being, time adds only two sides.
in my opinion multiple timelines and time are either the fourth dimension or not a dimension at all if we keep the dimensions spacial.
about the free will, we have some wiggle room and maybe by wiggling we are moving through the multiple timelines, it's just not that big of deal which timeline I'm on, the one that I posted this comment or the one I canceled are so similar in everything else I wouldn't notice I changed lanes.

Yes this is why there is the phenomenon of the Mandela effect where you could be in a different time line with some tiny difference you almost never would have noticed

Nah, Mandela effect is all hokum

You just described it in your previous statement, that's just a name for it. "It would be so similar you wouldn't have noticed"

Not really, my point was: time isn't the fourth dimension and we are moving through the multiple timelines all the time, we just don't see it as something special since we don't recognize it as such.
I'm pretty sure Mandela effect is a hoax, a woman I can't remember the name is behind it.

We can't really prove or disprove it. That's why it's really just a way to explain the phenomena where something in a timeline is slightly different from the previous

"we can't really prove" part is enough to dismiss the whole thing as a hoax, there's nothing that both exist and is non-provable at the same time. and because it can't be disproved it doesn't mean it's true, Santa can't be disproved either, does he exist?
on the other hand you can track this thing back to the blog post that started the whole idea.

This isn't a new idea lol this is very old and well known. It's not mystical, it's time and we know it exists. It's like saying gravity is a hoax. We can't prove something we cannot observe but it is real. The laws of physics exist outside our current realm of perception

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here goes my take.

NO SUCH THING AS MULTI VERSES.
NO SUCH THING AS MULTIPLE INFINITE REALITIES.
TIMELINE THEORIES ARE A JOKE.
no there are not infinite you living every possible scenarios.
for every timeline and every reality and every multiverse would ultimately merge/overlap into one stream.
and everyone would be doubt free that there is such a thing, and there would be endless encounters with time travellers and other none sense. of that sort.
tech would be shared from everywhere. in time and space. people would live in open contact, and everyone would be ultra spiritual.
think about this garbage, if there are infinite of you, and you decide to suicide yourself, then suicide isnt such a bad thing, you are dead here but live infintely in other infinite universes where you are alive and well. so your life does not mean anything in larger scope of things.

but if a gun will be put to your head you will do anything to survive in this life. if there would be infinite realities then survival instinct would not exist by default everywhere would be chaos.

you are one unique and you have free will. you have one life.

these sorts of theories are proposed more in a joke to play people.
it is more of a will they bite the hook.
fairy tales should be left for children.

being in the now is more important than focus on what is not really there.

the great minds who pushed these useless ideas cant even establish world peace or end world hunger.

have a great day.

why would it have to be one stream? Why does this theory demand time travel is real? This is the strawman fallacy because you're attacking claims outside the original premise

nope. all im saying is. we would be aware of your mentioned impossibilities thats all.
you cant defend that what you cannot prove. is that a fallacy also?

Well the double slit EXPERIMENT is proof given its an experiment and not a hypothesis. String theory is the accepted current understanding in mathematics. And the big bang theory is the current accepted theory of metaphysics. String theory is mathematics and it can explain all or most of these phenomenons.

big bang is a load of crap, to think that nothing created everything is absurd. they cant admit that they dont know so they make stuff up. just cos it is acknowledged by many universities and science fields doesnt mean it is true and that we need to lose our minds to them. we all have capability of discernment we must use it as often as we can.

you can't replicate double slit experiment. with individual photons being shot.
proof is what you yourself can only prove. its all nonesense people behind closed doors make up fairy tales. and people believe it.
get acquainted


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listen to defend theories is like to defend with a table fork against a cannonball. theories are not facts, but speculations. theories don't really give you a foothold.

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Nothing in this life is predetermined, because each one of us take it own decision, and all waht we have is the result of the things that we do.

How do you know you are making those decisions?

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