Fixing our broken system - where to even begin? Part 2: The political system

in #philosophy6 years ago (edited)

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This is a very complex topic, but I will try to simplify it as far as possible and identify the key principles that need to be addressed to ensure that a government fully represents the people and their needs over the very long term while still being able to address shorter term and day-to-day challenges. We'll get down to the basics and then understand what works, what doesn't, and why.

Understanding political systems and why the vast majority of them are illegitimate

The vast majority of political systems are a sham to make people believe that they are in control of their governments when in fact a small elite, through a small number of parties and politicians, control their governments instead. Most people are brainwashed from a very young age to believe that their form of political system is the best way to represent them. If they didn't, they would need to admit that they do not live with a government that truly represents them and their long-term best interests. This is far too big of a red pill for most people to accept. For most people today, government and law is the cornerstone of society, even more so than religion and spirituality.

So the next important question is what is a political system intended to do, I'll try to break this down to the basics. As a preface however, I highly recommend that you read my recent post on the legal system first to understand what a legal system should do and how it should best work. The legal system is the primary basis of the discussion and the political system sits on top of the legal system to manage it along with the execution of the day-to-day laws and governance of society.

I also highly recommend listening to the following interview with G. Edward Griffin on the difference between Individualism and Collectivism as the core basis for any political systems. What you quickly realize is the vast majority of political systems are developing into more and more corrupt federalized collectivist states that are intent on abolishing the inherent rights of the individual. They are covertly maneuvring their populaces towards highly centralized political systems with the intent of eventually transferring them first to regional and then to global governance, all the while destroying any remaining local representation and autonomy.

What a political system should legitimately do:

  • Represent the will and best interest of the people as a whole
  • Enforce the rights and laws of the people
  • Update the laws as required (including their minimization)
  • Coordinate the people in their responses to common challenges (economic, military, etc.)
  • May also execute common functions that are critical to society (public transportation, communications, postal systems, etc.)
  • Develop and execute methods to fund any common activities (fees, taxation, etc.)

What a political system should NEVER do:

  • NEVER infringe on the inherent and established rights of the people for any means without a trial of peers (no spying, no breaking and entering, no imprisonment, no confiscation of property, etc.)
  • NEVER create endless laws, fees, and taxation
  • NEVER create a massive and ever expanding bureaucracy of administrative bodies
  • NEVER allow centralization of power away from locally controllable representives
  • NEVER allow major decisions without a clear and uninfringed chain of local representation
  • NEVER allow any undue influence or enrichment of politicians and administrators
  • NEVER allow intransparency of influence on politicians and administrators (funding, lobbying, secret societies, internationalist bodies, think tanks, etc.)

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What does a proper political system look like

I will not get into the differences of various types of governments such as a constitutional republic, a parliamentary democracy, a communist state, or a constitutional monarchy. Frankly, all of these various types of political systems can be assessed as legitimate or illegitimate based upon the principles that I define below. If the government does not enshrine the following principles, they then de facto allow the usurpation of power away from the people and into the hands of a select few. This is despite whatever propaganda they regularly give their people to the contrary.

Political systems should apply the following principles to enable the continued empowerment of their people:

  • Extremely local and extremely transparent representation - Without local control and complete and full ongoing transparency of government and government officials, government misuse and corruption will be enabled
  • Extremely well paid, properly educated, and extraordinarily well-vetted government representatives- If the wrong people are acting as representatives, then the wrong results will occur
  • No governmental empowerment without personal accountability- Every government function must enable direct personal accountability to the people
  • Extreme penalties for misuse of government positions or corruption of foundational principles - there can be no room for the corruption of the basic principles of the law and the government. Breaking of these oaths must be treated as treason to the populace being represented
  • The abolition of all political parties, political lobbying, or any other form of undue political influence - Political parties, lobbyists, and politically-oriented groups (overt, covert, religious, freemasonic, or otherwise) drive undue influence on politicians and their decisions. Awareness and education on key issues should be made to the general populace. They in turn should be asked to discuss key issues with their representative(s) as part of regular local government interactions with their constituency
  • The abolition of non-local voting by the general populace - voting should only be done in extremely local environments where people know and can regularly interact with their local representatives. Their representatives can in turn vote for centralized representatives or actions required
  • No emergency or exceptional provision of power without local representative agreement - meaning that no government agency, president, monarch, or the like can be allowed to interfere with the local representative system for any reason or cause. Local representation becomes the ultimate authority for even emergency decisions
  • Extreme minimization of government managed services - limited to services that are critical to the betterment and functioning of society and that would otherwise not be properly supported without a government support model. These services however should constantly be under review for the partial or full return of these services to the private sector if better value can be provided there. (Schooling as an example might be subsidized by government, but should never be controlled by the government. It should also be under stringent rules in which the government or others can never influence or manipulate local schooling to drive government propaganda and therefore indirectly control the populace.)
  • Primarily militia-based military and police forces - so that enforcement powers always remain in the hands of the people to the largest degree

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Summing up the principles outlined above

The principles outlined above are about taking away all undue influence, corruption, missing accountability, missing transparency, as well as emergency interventions from government since these are all methods currently used to abuse government; a government that was legitimately intended to be of, by, and for the people. If these above changes are not made, then government will always be manipulated against the will and best interest of the people.

What the above principles also indirectly mean is that people can't just hand over their government to supposed "experts" and politicians and let them run wild as is typically done today. People need to stay in constant dialog with their local representative(s) and direct them in how they expecting to be represented. It also means that influencers must go to the people and not the politician for any initiatives they are driving. The people, after being educated on these initiative topics, must then give the go ahead to their representative on what they would like to seen done. This has a number of very positive outcomes including educating the populace, ensuring their engagement in political dialog, and ensuring strict oversight of their local representative(s).

Granted, not all the precise details of how all these principles will be enacted are described within this short post, however, in an age of ubiquitous internet access and enhanced communications, technology can easily enable these changes as well as much, much more. The point is that a systems-theory based analysis approach must be taken to "architect out" the problems that currently exist in the system. It's not enough to just add more laws and controls. The principles of the system from the ground up must be updated to address the weaknesses in our representative government systems; weaknesses that we as the true owners of our government have been attacked through over the past decades and centuries. This has allowed the proverbial foxes into the government henhouse and now all that is left for the people are rotten eggs.

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I will cover more on this and other related topics in upcoming posts in this series. In the meantime, I look forward to addressing your views and ideas in the comments section below.

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What I do not understand in today's government is the (at least here in Australia) belief that the equivalent of corporate wages be paid to those representing us (I know some would argue they are a corporation, but bear with me).

There is no excuse for members to be paid more than the median wage for their portfolio i.e. minister for pensions living on a pension etc. Up to the prime minister earning a median wage. After all, how are they to understand how to live on these wages and bring in changes when they themselves cannot empathise with the plight of the average taxpayer they claim to represent? Hopefully this would weed out the current sociopaths and those that care only for back-handers and a lifelong wage after leaving.

Don't tell me no-one would take on the job without a 6 figure salary, there are plenty that would.
Of course, the fallacy that 'anyone' can become prime minister or president is in itself laughable and should be a red flag to those that suspect something is rotten, to start thinking for themselves.
Good article!

My point above was that you need well qualified and highly responsible people. I know that a lot of people believe that this job should be an almost volunteer role in regards to the pay. I understand your point, but I respectfully disagree. I think you should pay extremely well for great people. However, I correspondingly expect that if they do anything even remotely corrupt in that role, they are charged with treason and go to jail without question for the rest of their lives. You get what you incentivize.. period.

Hmm, I guess we would agree to disagree, but thats all good.
My take would be there are many in the community that are responsible, on a basic wage, and well qualified would just encourage a kind of incestuous CEO hopping across business and government or letting those already in a possibly corrupt system be 'properly qualified'. Having a position in Government does not mean they are alone, you can still have advisers.
I do not think looking at any in the job currently would encourage someone to think they were well qualified (which is probably your point in the second half of your answer). They are more qualified for oversized boots and a red nose in my opinion.

I think we can both agree on the treason and corruption part of your answer, too many have a 'get out of jail free' card by just resigning when caught with their hand in the cookie jar it seems.

I guess having read some posts now on your good work, I definitely agree more with the @dharmapee model I think.

Anyway, love your work and being able to have a reasoned debate about one of the traditional no-nos of conversation, politics. :-)

Thanks a lot and thanks for participating in the discussion. These are topics that we as a society need to really think about, discuss, and makes serious changes on if we want to have any hope of preserving out freedoms. Unfortunately, the masses have been lulled to sleep with bread and games and in the meantime the foxes are in the henhouse. My hope is to make sure we easily understand what needs to be changed, so as to preserve as well as to improve our tremendously important inheritance that the majority pretty much take for granted today.

As someone that has simply stopped acknowledging the government exists, I resonate on this frequency. :)

I'm just hoping that some of the corruption in these governments starts to really come out soon. There seem to be a lot of things ready to break. I'm just waiting to see some real arrests start happening.

This is an excellent presentation and I find myself in agreement with almost everything. My interest is therefore where we differ, this seems worth feeding back. First - I think it is worth considering the question of 'representation' - Representation developed historically as a top down imposition - the powerful conceding privilege, bit by bit, because they had to as societies grew and complexified AND because of centralisation of power. If power is localised and devolved - we get closer and closer to not needing representation. Equally - representation is practical when we are living our lives, and decisions need making, and we can't be always stopping digging the potatoes to decide on the next clog tax 5 miles away at the town hall. I best represent myself - getting someone else to do it dilutes my representation, by definition. Technology, right now, means I don't need any politician representing my view - I can do it myself, right now, on my smartphone. I actually find the idea of any politician representing me and my views offensive and anti-democratic. So doing away with most representatives leaves us simply with a civil service that professionally carries out our specific, clear instructions.

The second issue I would raise is your notion that government representatives should be extremely well paid. No, absolutely not. Government representatives should be paid , ONLY, the exact median wage of the area they represent. Government officials should be dragged kicking and screaming in protest into office (okay, I'm exaggerating for effect) in the knowledge that their ethical probity and sense of responsibility will ensure they will do their absolute best - and that we will let them go back to their lives after a fixed, reasonable term of service. Those who desire the thankless responsibility of a governmental position are too immature to realise what they are yearning for, and inevitably will be corrupted by the experience - and everyone pays the price for that. Power-seeking is a personal, psychological growth issue - and the moment we allow maturing individuals a public role to act out their private needs, we are in deep, deep, doodoos. Our brutal history is littered with examples. I've saved your presentation, and have no doubt I'll use it for reference - thank you. Db

Thanks very much for the compliment and your excellent inputs. The points you address are certainly feasible alternatives to what I've pointed to as principles above. Let me try to address my reasoning a bit more and see if that helps clarify my logic:

  • Having only direct voting will likely eventually turn into a situation where no one is accountable and no one is there to solve and address issues that arise. I don't yet see how we can have a fully autonomous government with our current technological capabilities. You would at least need administrators to execute the demands of the populace. Additionally, it's unclear how would this approach would create accountability to ensure that individual rights and primary principles are never violated by direct voting. You could have a potential "mob rule" challenge to address with a fully direct democracy in this form. You would also have no incentivation of government to find, develop, and present creative solutions to any unplanned issues that arise.

  • In terms of well paid politicians, the Singaporean model for politicians uses a carrot and stick approach to ensure that politicians never step out of line against their laws. Don't get me wrong, I don't see Singapore as a bastion of freedom, it's just the opposite, but they almost fully eliminate the incentives for political corruption by ensuring that they have the best people in the job, they get paid extremely well, and they will have their ass handed to them if they step out of line. The trick is to fully eliminate bad incentives and bring in the best and the brightest to the job. As an example, this is one of the problems with schooling today. No teachers make any real money with it as a profession and therefore the best and brightest go to Goldman Sucks instead. I can certainly also understand the idea of government service roles instead where you are required to take a turn serving your community. The only problem is whether you get quality rather than just quantity. If corruptive factors are removed, I'm not convinced such government roles will in any case fill with psychopaths that yearn to abuse the system and the people within it as we have today. Regardless, the community service model is also a very viable alternative if managed correctly. Good point.

Good points, I think both of our views can feed and modify each other. Totally agree with the genuine danger of direct democracy - this is why basing social organisation on the bedrock of immutable rights/obligations principles is essential. Majorities, however overwhelming, can never trump basic rights/obligations. In other words - society flows outward from the individual sovereign right/obligation-holding agent, never vice-versa. Accountability is only an issue when minorities decide on behalf of majorities on non-right's/obligations based policies - and removing 'representatives' as I suggest leaves this a practical question of law, and job competance - the civil service obeys the law and does what it is told,, as laid down by society - again, not vice-versa. If they don't obey - well, obviously we hang em high.

As you say, Singapore is not a good model. I'm arguing forget carrot and stick, stick and carrot, whip and apricot, whatever. Think about the principle of jury service - do we put people on juries who desperately want to do it, and would like to do it for years, being well paid and feted and whored to boot? If not, why is this different? My point remains and carrot and stick variations doesn't really address it: anyone with ambitions to governmental power and influence is already demonstrating their unfitness to hold such - it is intrinsic to the psychology and practical requirements. Drag em in screaming and kicking, let them go home when they've done their bit. I would incidentally argue that the brightest and best most certainly do not go to Goldman Sucks for their pieces of silver - that is a myth perpetuated by Goldman Sucks Silver Pieces Grabbers to justify their sorry asses and wasted lives and thievery. The brightest and the best live quiet and unassuming lives - yep, sometimes as teachers - and filthy lucre, psychological or metal, is understood perfectly for the utter distraction it is. Those who pursue gold are dumbasses, and our society promotes them to rule the roost - and then people wonder why the mess. No - don't pay government lackies well. Thank them profusely when we free them from their obligations. Db

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Well put together. That was a good read. It used to be that the local laws were read out-load, in the town or a written transcript of the Common Laws were nailed to the church doors, at regular intervals throughout the year. Its just one of the reasons laws were kept simple and few in number. HaHa! you would need a big ass door to nail all our statutes to ;)
Only debate I would have, is that I believe we need to go backwards not forwards with our Political and Judiciary system. Yes, like you said, we do need to go through our whole system from top to bottom. But in my opinion the essence of our system is solid and blocks corruption on such a basic level that it is a Royal pain in the arse for Fabian style Socialism. Our 'unwritten' Constitution, had we stuck to it, should have prevented the 'smotherment' that has usurped it. Scrape off the barnacles and start again. Make changes to suit modern society but not for the sake of any core principles. They say our laws derive from the bible's 10 commandments but I feel its more likely from natural laws that are instinctive to all living things. Religion should have naff all to do with our Laws. Now we have let all manner of other 'groups' tweak the system(too many cooks, springs to mind) Its only since those kind of oppressive systems popped up, that groups began to isolate themselves into 'ideals' and add over complicated laws to please the growing centralized mix of cultures.

I doth my cap to you Sir, great post ;)

Thanks a lot for the complement! It's very much appreciated to know that people are reading and appreciate the content. It's even more appreciated to know that there are more people like you thinking along the same lines as to how to solve this mess that we are certainly in. Now it's just about getting a greater mass interested to fix the system that no longer represents us.

You're welcome. The more folk spending time getting this kind of message out the better. You know they stopped teaching common law in universities since the 1970's. So our police etc are not even aware that they are acting against it people's own laws. I do what our group calls 'lobby the bobby' where we send lawful notices to our local police to try get a dialog started. We send them evidence of treason and proof of our lawful standing but very rarely do we even get a response. The police are unable to act on a lawful request, it seems...They are the key but as soon as they get privatized or somehow incorporated into an EU police force, it will be up to the little people to take control. Do you watch UK column? They are also a good source of info but unfortunately will not stand with us under Article61 so until that changes it makes it difficult for us to work together, hope that changes one day...

nice this post

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Nice article! I noticed an interesting paradox here, specifically for those who would make a government based on things that a government should 'legitimately' do, as opposed to what they should never do;
If a government were to adhere to: "NEVER infringe on the inherent and established rights of the people for any means without a trial of peers (no spying, no breaking and entering, no imprisonment, no confiscation of property, etc.)" then they would never be able to forcibly collect taxes.
Of course if most of the people agree to be forced to give their property over, and decide to call the arrangement 'taxation', then the extortion can appear to be legitimate, but to take another's property by force is usually called 'theft', and even with all of the rights that we individuals inherently have, none of us has the right to take property in that way.

I think that as long as I see other humans as individual sovereign beings with inherent rights, I'll continue to doubt the legitimacy of any group or principle which infringes on those same rights.

Thanks for sharing the article, very well-written and full of interesting concepts.

Thanks a lot! I fully appreciate the anarcho-capitalist perspective as well. (I don't know if you consider yourself one or not.) The ultimate issue is obviously how to pay for services operated by the government. First and foremost, these services need to be fully minimized from the get go. Government needs to be used incredibly sparingly and just for those things that you can't effectively run on a profit-basis in society. I, however, take a very "systems theory" view which focuses on selectively applying the right architectural pattern for the job. Sometimes this is profit-based and sometimes not.

In terms of how to pay for government services, the absolute worst way is through non-apportioned taxes, and this is the reason they are illegal under the US constitution. For apportioned taxes, you still have force but not nearly as badly as with apportioned taxes. If the government owns the monetary printing press, then you could just pay through inflation, but this can be massively abused. If the government owns industries that the people agree to, then these profits pay for the government. This is probably the easiest approach and least "violent". This has its own issues, but probably gets closest to never stealing from the people.

Hey @newsandviews. Your post was recommended to me by a good friend and I am very impressed with what you have to say and the way you have written your article. You have a very clear way of explaining the current situation. I am not convinced in my own mind that the anarchistic view of the future is one that can be a possibility but we definitely have to return to more localised forms of government and more representative of the men and women tbey should be representing. I have written about these sorts of things in the past in my own way and spoken about the need for a return to taking more personal responsibility towards our actions and the consequences thereof but I am struggling lately with finding a balance between sharing what I know and being emotionally attached to the outcome. I have a very matter of fact way of expressing myself and can sometimes be a little aggressive in my writing style so I'm glad to find someone like yourself who seems to share at least most of my views but who is able to relay them in a more calm and reasoned way, though I do msense a little emotional attachment in your words also. :)

Anyway, I just wanted to say hi mate and thanks again for fighting the good fight. Look forward to seeing what you have to say in future mate.

Cheers. :)

Hi @tonyr, thanks a lot for the complement and for reaching out. I am always very happy to be able to connect with others with a similar mindset like yourself. I think it's really important to share and communicate our ideas as well as to knit together a shared vision and approach to address the challenges we face from a very corrupt world. Without this we are all disempowered as a force of one when we instead need the strength of the many.

Regarding my personality, I'm also not one to be completely calm, but I try to get my logic to drive rather than my emotions. (Unfortunately, it doesn't always work.) Sometimes I think I come across as a bit boring because of it as well, but hopefully not too much so.

I'm looking forward reading through your work. I'll definitely stop by on your blog to say hi. Thanks again for taking the time to stop in and read my blog. I'm always grateful to have a very intelligent audience. Hopefully, I can continue to keep the interest going with my following posts. I'll certainly be doing my best.

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