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RE: An Officer's Take: Social Justice and the Failure of Quantitative Policing

in #philosophy7 years ago (edited)

I appreciate you taking the time and writing your experiences. My problem with "law" enforcement is that you agree to enforce all manner of laws, and from your experience you basically admitted to doing such, regardless of right or wrong. To you it might seem like something that we can agree to disagree on but laws which define crimes without a victim, are wrong, immoral and don't protect anyone. If you stop someone driving drunk, that's great, there was potential harm to others, but if you basically kidnap someone for drinking without an id it's wrong, always.

I don't see any reason that cops should be patroling for crimes, any more than we have the ambulances looking for accidents or the fire department paroling for fire, nor do I see any evidence that tickets make people drive more carefully or considerably, and in spite of policing the streets there are many places that have fewer accidents and no cop presence.

Police should be tasked with investigating and reporting to crimes just like firefighters, except there should not be a monopoly on who can respond or investigate, it should be ok for others to do thes things, and arguably do it better as for one, police chiefs have admitted numerous times that there are IQ limits for police, which doesn't promote "investigating" at all, while you have admitted that you were basically praying and targeting a low income black community, instead of responding to crimes.

Police have their roots steeped deep into the same practices and methods that their predecesors, the Slave Catching Patrols did, and a constant rigidity to be above the law, while at the same time tasked with enforcing the law, which many hardly can know. Just a couple months ago some cops were telling me on my own property that it wasn't my own property, they were that ignorant as to not recognize my own property, or bother to examine that proof, and that is indicative of the ineptitude of "we don't make the laws" they left and I think they had realized that when my neighbors were trying to claim the easement that was for them, as their property.

To close, seeing how cops are always ok with enforcing immoral and unjust laws, which don't protect the innocent only make criminal, actions that harm nobody, I find it hard to believe that they have a meaningful purpose, as they hardly catch 1% of the crimes in progress, and a lot of time, those "crimes" aren't hardly crimes without a victim, while there's plenty of departments that have admitted and the courts have upheld the right to discriminate based on IQ limits, raising the questions of why and how does that help in investigating crimes if you refuse to hire people of higher intelligence?

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Thank you for the feedback and response. Educational standards are certainly an issue that need to be addressed.

Educational standards isn't what I said, and I didn't speak about education at all.

I explained how what you do is immoral, and you have basically admitted to that in the post itself, I have pointed out that there is no meaningful purpose to "patrol" any more than there is for firefighters to do that, and pointed out that almost nothing has changed since slave catching days of Slave Patrols, which are the predecessors to cops.

You don't have to agree with me, but education is not the problem here, here the problem is people who are chosen on a standard that doesn't promote investigation, by limiting the IQ, by an organization that has always been above the law, which practices the very same discriminatory and racist policies that their predecessors have done, and there is no sign of a "reform".

All that exists is the the public outcry, the ostracized ex cops and ex commissioners and ex chiefs, amidst rampant criminal behavior in every large district, and the smaller ones from my experience aren't that much better, I remember reading an article when I lived in Nor Cal about one officer that enjoyed immunity and his sun turned out to be exactly like his meth head father that would steal people's meth and get high, and he was busted for the nth time and was still allowed back on the force.

I am aware that cops protect cops, even from pedophilia, as do judges and their buddies the DA, it's definitely a US vs Them, those that speak against such things get shitcanned, the disclaimer at the top of the post is there for a reason... while it's been mentioned before how cops have a hard time seeing anything that cops do as wrong, this is telling as you've addressed "education" instead of "iq limits for cops".

Again, your feedback appreciated. It doesn't sound like there is anything I can say to alter your opinion. Thank you for taking the time to read anyway!

That's a cop out there, as you can point out what is wrong with my opinion, why and how it's wrong, not simply that you have a desire to alter it.

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