RE: The instant gratification debt cycle of relationships paid off in Steem
Together, yourself and @josephsavage have saved me writing a post and responses to some pretty upfront comments I've received this evening.
Joe's post here: https://steemit.com/busy/@josephsavage/my-thoughts-on-hf20-rcs-smts-and-the-future-of-steem-contest-enclosed
I'm pretty bummed to be honest. Bummed that we are 3? days into a fork, knowing that the previous major code changes caused issues on release that took time to find this equibalancelibrium thing that I cant remember the name of right now.
Hard Fork 18 had the reward pool empty
Hard Fork 19 had us giving out way too much with our up-votes
And they settled, maybe not to everyone's liking from the start, or even prior to release, but the ship steadied. Perhaps we'll need another tweak or two, to find the balance this time. That's OK, isn't it?
Joe speaks of scale, you speak of patience and adjustment.
Steemit, Inc cares about scale, not as much about the existing users. If the platform is built to scale to millions (or billions) of users, it's not as important how many individuals leave along the way. Right now Steem does NOT scale. Sure we talk about the theoretical transaction limits of graphene, but... it takes 12 hours to replay a node? I takes how many GB of RAM to run a witness? What does that go up to when we have 1 million active users (not just 1 million accounts)? source
...we are at the point that you can walk away and there will still be enough people who are willing to work very hard for a future here.
This is some tough love, but I believe you are both right.
It became clear to me in conversing on another post today that STINC really doesn't care one iota about Steemit or the user experience on here. This platform will never get out of beta. It is in fact a test platform that is all about ironing things out for SMTs, the real business STINC wants to be in.
Once that became clear to me, a lot of things started lining up. I kept wondering why they didn't see that choices they were making would make it hard for the community on here to grow. Even when I read Taraz's comments above about this not scaling, it still didn't click. It was just too unbelievable to me because it isn't how I see the value of this place.
But you're right. They absolutely don't care how many of us leave on their way to getting SMTs launched. They want us all on the SMTs, not Steemit, and probably hope to be able to someday retire Steemit entirely and have no front end they are responsible for. They don't want to be end user providers. They are techies who want to interact only with other techies, creating the platform the others will turn into scalable end user experiences.
I'm figuring out right now where I put myself within that. I used to be an instructor on Udemy (actually still have about $1k deposited into my bank account each month from them) and I eventually realized they had a similar disdain for those who were at the mercy of their "experiments." The only draw for me on there was money, not community, so that makes a difference. Contemplating.
I think the idea of the decentralization process is to retire Steemit and instead have a community run front end that the community controls. Stinc are and perhaps should only be concerned with the infrastructure and even that to a lessening degree over time.
However, I don't think they have any disdain for the community per se. Like anything that is volatile, this place isn't for everyone currently yet people try to make it all inclusive which I think is a mistake. Yes, this is an experiment but it is on the path to a place that could be for everyone.
The catchall front end that Steemit is will never satisfy all users yet all users think that this is there home. Potentially it could be a core blogging site in the future and potentially, Stinc gives it up to a community to operate and upgrade it all.
SMTs however are a large part of the road map required to differentiate content and satisfy and incentivise various groups in different ways. Steemit can never satisfy a user completely, all will be somewhat disappointed all the time because of competing views, needs and wants.
Your place here is wherever you make it and there are increasingly more options to arrive that I predict could have some very dedicated communities on them that would love to have you be part of them. I think the benefit here as while Steem can handle volume, communities and SMTs will house much smaller and intimate communities who could actually know each other to a greater degree.
Just think, how many other users do you chat with on Youtube consistently across different poster's videos? Is that really a community? on facebook? Instagram? They are for the masses to distribute advertising. Here we can cater for all without crushing any but, it takes time to develop all of the whatever is needed to support it.
It is 230 am here and I have to be up again at 630 most likely so I will go to bed but, everyone has a place here in my opinion, if they choose to make one, be part of the community and be patient when roads that will help get them places are being built.
How often do you see and engage with these types of comments on Facebook? How often are they talking about building a global community? I think it is pretty incredible here to be honest.
I hope you've slept well and are seeing this in the morning. :)
Yes, it is definitely as you say. I just have to accept that my Native Steem project just won't work under these conditions. I suppose it is premature. There needs to be more stability and valuation of user experience on the platform I'd be bringing that vulnerable community onto. I also don't have enough SP/RCs for all of them and my own activity both, and the platform clearly won't allow them to do anything without that.
Well it's good to have these things be clear. I have enough SP to do what I want on here, and I'll basically be hanging out in a rich neighborhood on here. Then when SMTs come along, maybe there will be options for more social mobility as a norm on some of those platforms.
I do find that I have great community and great conversation on here. Me and all my middle class and rich friends. Sigh.
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A few months isn't going to kill your project I think and I am almost certain that sooner rather than later, not only will things be clearer but the issues with the commenting etc will be sorted out.
As far as RCs go to support others. You have a community with you already and friends. What if they dropped some of their RCs into a little pool for your project? What if that community of yours could help other projects get off the ground in the same way? Most larger accounts are never going to use their RCs most days which means, they have available bandwidth. The systems aren't in place yet but, they will arrive. Communities powered by communities.
I am Steem rich... if you saw my life. I have accepted failure here already but, it will likely crush me. I don't intend to be crushed.
now... good night :)
People get attached and all believe that they are doing the right thing by themselves at the very least. the problem is though is that there is a great deal of complexity and nuance here and at the moment, we don't even have all the information from the first hardfork let alone the patch that is still replaying as far as I know.
There are so few people on this platform currently. I wish it would be possible to run some algorithm that could truly show how many real people are here and are currently affected. 15-20k? People are acting as if these people were killed in planned genocide while at the same time things are being done to tend to remedy the situation.
Everyone has answers but unfortunately, they are all different.
We will see Asher. I hope for your sake in particular that you are right. Thanks for thinking of me and trying to express your thoughts. I appreciate it!