Quick Updates and a Statement That Needs To be made.

in #palnet5 years ago

The team has been hard at work this week at not only curating, but hunting down abuse of the @creativecoin and @sonicgroove tag and I'm as pleased as I can be with the efforts put forth so far.


The response to Creative Coin has been overwhelmingly positive so far, with only a small bit of complaints from people that don't like the idea of having moderated tags. In my mind this is oldsteem thinking. A lack of moderation is one of the biggest issues the Steem platform has, take a look at trending on Steem compared to many of the tribes, and you'll see a big difference in what is being rewarded. Is it perfect? No, not yet. But I believe as more stake spreads to new accounts, we'll see even more diversity in what people are rewarding.

The key word there is people.

So let's back up a bit and let me quickly explain Creativecoin's structure:

Creativecoin is the main account. The umbrella that covers the creative and entertainment areas. It is also the parent of @sonicgroove, which is also owned by @swelker101 and @isara. There will be more niche tribes under the Creativecoin umbrella, but they will be owned by other accounts and people. What that means is that the most of the Creativecoin team will be helping run the smaller niche tribes, but will not have any governmental powers. Creativecoin can help set-up niche tribes that wish to come in under the umbrella. More on that in the near future.

So, with that being said. The next part is only valid for Creativecoin and Sonicgroove as they are the only two that @swelker101 and @isaria own.

We will not run any bid-bots that exchange tokens of any sort in exchange for CCC or SONIC

We have decided that we will not be allowing pay-for-vote bots on the two tribes

This includes many curation accounts that exchange upvotes for payments or delegations. We have already muted several accounts which follow this model, and will be muting others as we find them. We tend to see that these accounts tend to be automated and have zero standards on what they are voting, which in turn makes keeping the tag clean harder for the team.

Bid-bots will be muted immediately as they are found.

In the short term, I assume you'll see some coins being dumped. In the long term, we feel it's best for the platform and that will be reflected in the token value.

We will be sending delegations to some curation groups

We are well aware that there are some curation groups that curate by hand, and do a wonderful job. We are currently working on the best way to implement these possible delegations and will announce the initiatives when they are ready.

I think that just about wraps up this update. Thanks for reading!


Nice to see some integrity being shown within the tribes. I think the whole point of them is to build a “world” you want to see and test different ways to view the content on the chain in filtered ways.

I’m still waiting for those who cry of censorship often to go make their own tribe where they can do whatever they want.. as to me, that’s the beauty of them - customization.

You guys are doing good things and creativecoin is quickly becoming a very great tribe - keep up the good work!

Hallelujah! Hoping more tribe owners read and see this, thanks for publicly confirming what we were all talking about yesterday.

No BOTS, just real content and real Trending.That's what we all want to see.

Yay! This is like a drink of cool water in the desert that the Steem mainchain has become :) Creative Coin is by far my fav tag / tribe and seeing the tribe leaders say the same thing (no bid bots in creative coin / sonic groove) in the Discord yesterday prompted me to transfer another 300 steem into steem-engine and open up more buy orders for CCC :)

Wow, it's really nice to see this happening! And you're exactly right, "old Steem" ended up where it is because of the almost rabid attachment to so-called "freedom," which clearly extended itself to the freedom to ABUSE a system.

I'm really glad to see some human interaction here; it gives me hope that maybe some of the tribes will end up serving as alternative and more "honest" ways for people focus on actual content creation rather than gimmickry to extract a few extra fractions of a cent from the environment.

Bright Blessings!

I don't think old Steem suffered its abuse because of a rabid attachment to freedom, but rather because of its size and its central planning (despite all the "decentralized" claims to the contrary). The tribes that are now emerging are to be expected, the natural evolutionary response as the bloated platform of Steemit splits into smaller, self-regulated patches. Stuart Kauffman (at the Santa Fe Institute) showed the flow success of this structure in his NK computer models. I wish I had time to go into that in more detail, but I'm on the road right now. But if anyone is interested in that, you can learn more in Kauffman's book "At Home in the Universe."

8I'm a little confused at the wording of this.

Does this mean that if one of my posts are upvoted via a curation trail or by an account I delegate to, that I will be downvoted and muted?

No, it means that certain accounts will be muted on the CCC or Sonic side. Account A says delegate to my account and I'll upvote jgv with X% for life! Account A will be muted and jgv continues on making music and whatnots. :)

Ok, thank you for the clarification.

Yes yes yes @creativecoin

You are ticking all the boxes to show integrity in a space where it's so easy to be pulled into the false economy of vote buying/selling.

No bidbots! Excellent.

Actively blocking/muting those accounts who run these 'so called' services! Excellent.

Delegating to curation guilds that manually curate! Excellent.

The way you've chose to run this community gives me hope that steem can improve, where I had little previously. Hats off to all of you for resisting the pull of short term growth and greed, over the potential for true long term value 🙂


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No bid bots. Excellent. Fully approve. HOPEFULLY, this doesn't mean that ARTWORK made by robots will be restricted. (I would hate for my electronic friends to feel discriminated against here, like they always are at the Mos Eisley Cantina.) But seriously (as difficult as it is for me to be serious) no bid bots or pay-for-vote schemes is perfect!

Great stuff! Both CreativeCoin and SonicGroove are my goto tribes for finding great content at the moment.

I'm liking creativecoin for real and the direction you're heading. Fantastic work!

This is why CreativeCoin is one of my favorite Tribes.

In addition, I believe this tribe would have an easy time recruiting mainstream users. There are creatives everywhere and with proper moderation, I can see them being highly interested in joining and participating!

Well done Isaria and Shane.

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