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RE: My Thoughts On Where The 'Fake News' Narrative May Be Heading

in #news7 years ago (edited)

Many of you will be familiar with the Hegelian Dialect, a method utilised frequently by governments and corporations to fulfill an agenda that the public would otherwise not be willing to accept.

Do you realize how fundamentally flawed that statement actually is?

Just curious. I know people keep repeating this over and over until the public believes it and just takes it for granted. But just because you've repeated a lie so many times you no longer bother to question it's veracity, does not make it suddenly true.

The actual purpose of a Hegelian dialect is to find a compromise, a middle ground by hearing both sides of a story.

It literally means the process of watching two parties with OPPOSING INTERESTS discussing an issue and the process that they used in order to resolve the conflict without resorting to violence.

Please for the love of god, quit assuming conspiracy theorists have anything remotely resembling coherent thoughts. This is getting contagious. You repeat things like this and it spreads like wildfire because 50% of the population has an IQ below the median average, but they account now for 80% of the internet traffic.

We've reached a tipping point. That's what this is. You need to actually use critical thinking skills now or you will drown in this sea of information and become a part of the flotsam and jetsam with the rest of the parrots who keep regurgitating the same "fear for dollars" narrative.
Don't do that, you're smarter than that.

You can't trust what google is telling you or any of your social media circle friends.

You have to think for yourself and that means to go to the original source and don't believe anything anyone tells you at face value. Do your own homework, draw your own conclusions and then help others come to their OWN conclusions by showing source material for both sides of the coin.

Do that and we might all get over this bump in the road and avoid our own home built dystopian nightmare.

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Though you are correct--in a way--you really ought to do a little more research before attempting to be quite so condescending.
While the Helegian Dialectical Principal can be broken down to a compromise in its simplest form, there are a number of working models used to reach synthesis.

"It literally means the process of watching two parties with OPPOSING INTERESTS discussing an issue and the process that they used in order to resolve the conflict without resorting to violence."
That is just a complete fallacy. It is not an observation, but an action. It is a lot closer to influencing the discussion.
One definition is; an interpretive method in which some assertible proposition (thesis) is necessarily opposed by an equally assertible and apparently contradictory proposition (antithesis), the contradiction being reconciled on a higher level of truth by a third proposition (synthesis).
No limitations are stated to the various ways in which that method can be utlised. The principal is founded on the belief that the human mind is unable to comprehend anything that it cannot split into two opposite sides.
It can be as simple as finding a compromise between two opposing factors, or--as I stated--It can be the manufacturing of said opposing factors in order to achieve a compromise that was always the intended result.

"You repeat things like this and it spreads like wildfire because 50% of the population has an IQ below the median average, but they account now for 80% of the internet traffic."
I would love to see a source for these stats as it seems like you pulled them out of your arse. One thing is for sure though, you speak with a tone of superiority, so I can presume that you feel you are above average intelligence. Perhaps you are, but you should know that brain power does not necessarily equate to understanding, and there is a very big difference between intelligence and wisdom. I'm sure I could find someone with below average IQ that is wiser than both you and I.

You ought to think twice before attempting to show how clever you apparently are, because to me, you have simply made yourself look arrogant and exceptionally silly.

First off apologies for the condescending tone. I see that conspiracy angle touted out so often, and get tired of seeing people intentionally mis-explain it like that.

You clarified how it is used in your rebuttal and that's fine, but it's not at all what you were saying before. You could have just as easily used something along the lines of "The government manufacturers these dialogs and controls both sides of the coin." and then provided some solid examples backed with citations from credible sources.

You appear to think these guys are way more organized than they are and I can tell you first hand what you describe isn't within the capabilities of the system to pull off. There has never been a conspiracy that was successful because people suck at keeping secrets.

There's an old saying, don't mistake incompetence for malice, even if it feels that way. No one in government is any different than you or I. There aren't secret clubs, or cabals or illuminati, or jewish banking conspiracies or a global elite with some unified plan. There are just people, some of whom are bad, most of whom are good though.

Instead you mis-informed your readership by implying it's a term of the conspirators.
People are going to take your words at face value and it's not just you. I see this floating around and correct it wherever I can because mis-informed people make bad decisions based on fear.

"You repeat things like this and it spreads like wildfire because 50% of the population has an IQ below the median average, but they account now for 80% of the internet traffic."

I would love to see a source for these stats as it seems like you pulled them out of your arse. One thing is for sure though, you speak with a tone of superiority.

That's pretty much the definition of median average. 50% will be below it. As for accounting for 80% of traffic, I should clarify that this is a reference to social media traffic so I misspoke. Either way you're right I pulled it out of my ass. I used IQ as a proxy for education level and ability and desire to think critically. It's pretty much self evident by looking at what trends, what is popular and what people accept into their vision of reality. Point is people are impressionable they aren't going to search an obscure term when you give them a definition that sounds legit. This is what I was attacking.

One thing is for sure though, you speak with a tone of superiority, so I can presume that you feel you are above average intelligence.

No I don't consider myself above average, just average. I've never made any claim to superiority, but I do try to help people think critically, because I look around me and I see it lacking.

You ought to think twice before attempting to show how clever you apparently are, because to me, you have simply made yourself look arrogant and exceptionally silly.

If you thought this was me being clever you'd be wrong. I apologize for the condescending tone. It wasn't intentional, but it was there. Words have meaning and they have impact. The way I talked to you is the way I talk to my friends while sitting around having a meal or a drink at a bar, but you don't know me so there isn't a way for you to get a read on it. This is something I need to work on, so I'll work on it. Thank you for bringing that to my attention.

Good post !!
An easier way to describe how the Hegelian Dialect is being used in MHO would be problem, reaction, solution. The powers that be will create a problem and hype it like it's the end of the world in order to get a reaction from those below average IQs. Then they will roll out the predetermined solution they want. There are many examples of this very thing happening all over the world today.

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