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RE: Today In Stupid - #DeathToAmerica Trends

in #news5 years ago (edited)

"... Iran considers what Trump has done as an act of war, which is pretty rich coming from a country with the worst human rights violations of any place on earth..."

I find this mystifying, informed as I am regarding Abu Ghraib and it's direct descent from Nuremberg.

"...we he started a war..."

I reckon this typo a revelatory Freudian slip. It is demonstrable that the purpose of government is to provide a vector for profiteering, and no profiteering is more profitable than war profiteering. Politics is war by less profitable means, I reckon. Accordingly, we should see margins widen appreciably as new profit centers for the most crass of the capital class become available. Reducing propaganda to this basis reveals a central and ubiquitous coherent purpose underlying it all.

While I suspect you also grasp this fact, I am struggling to reconcile that with characterizing Suleimani as the worst of the worst terrorists. He seems to merely have been merely more financially successful than most, rather than more vicious.

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When you speak of Abu Gharib, are you speaking of the 50 years it was used to torture and kill thousands of people by the Iraqi government without consequence or the three years that the U.S. used it in which time some soldiers tortured some prisoners which led to 17 soldiers being court-martialed, some of which received significant prison time in addition to dishonorable discharge and other consequences? I'm not trying to defend anything the U.S. did there but just putting it in perspective. The U.S. isn't very good at torturing people compared to places like Iraq and Iran. At least not by volume.

Iran frequently finds itself in the top 10 list of human rights violations by various organizations. As Suleimani has been perhaps the most instrumental person in carrying out the policies that have led to that categorization over recent years I think categorizing him as "worst of the worst" is perhaps only a slight exaggeration. Not that that's the primary reason he was killed of course. Saudi Arabia also finds itself in those lists sometimes too and it's not as if we are killing people there.

I reckon we are both against torture, wherever it is executed.

I will therefore not delve deeply into the School of the Americas, and the direct link between the USA and tin pot dictators around the world. Neither will I dive into the political machinations surrounding propaganda surrounding media pronouncements regarding human rights.

I want to simply agree with you that torture is bad, terrorism is bad, and people of good intent must refuse to condone or support it every.single.time.

I don't want to get confused by sorting out fact from propaganda, as I am not competent to fail to do should I more deeply descend into the pit of horror the debate about who did what when to who is certain to become.

My intent with my comment was to express surprise at what appeared to me to be an uncharacteristic devolution into partisan support for one group of murderous torturers over another by @morkrock. I have understood and long supported his apparent stance that all such evil needs to be opposed, and I hope I do not now witness the beginning of his support of one such group over another.

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