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RE: "Vaccines Can Kill" Billboards Up Across America After Son of MMA Fighter Dies.

in #news6 years ago

I suggest reviewing the information presented by numerous doctors and scientists in the comment I posted here already - these people explain how the logic used to promote vaccines is flawed and misleading. In some countries people are seriously hindered financially and in other ways via politics and law if they refuse vaccinations - yet vaccinations can kill - this is highly unethical.

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numerous doctors and scientists...

The vast majority of scientists (particularly the ones who aren't crooked) are very much in favour of vaccination programmes. There'll always be some homeopath quacks (eg. Trevor Gunn) cynically denouncing science in order to obtain fame and/or fortune but this is established science we're talking.

I spent enough years studying biology to know I probably don't need to review the information provided in your links. Thanks all the same.

We got a lid on smallpox through vaccines (I believe the US and Russia both keep samples in locked cabinets) and they work for lots of other viruses, too. If we don't seek to immunise ourselves, there's always the chance we'll have a great epidemic (millions died in at least one last century). And if there's such an outbreak, we don't really have that much we can treat them with after the fact. You mostly have to tough it out and hope for a full recovery ( / try praying if you're gullible enough to believe in sky-fairies also).

Why not just trust in common sense and accept they worked very well in the past so they'll work very well still, today, as they will continue to throughout humanity's future? The flu virus itself keeps mutating so we'll never completely beat it. But I'm damned sure the world's a lot safer with the majority of people opting to be vaccinated (where more serious viruses than the flu are concerned) than it would be if we all believed the debunked nonsense you seem to happily believe.

Or are the vast majority of scientists very much mistaken?

I have seen myself in numerous cases, many scientists admit that after years of following certain ideas and denying messages to the contrary because 'they probably arern't true' - they eventually stopped being lazy and looked at ALL The data - then changed their mind and apologized. I have watched my own family members die (be killed) by the actions of doctors who are 'only following orders' and I have no time for it. Be real or step back now.

I give up.

And I'm sorry that you feel (rightly or wrongly) that you've lost love ones to medical malpractice. I really am. I'm certain those involved would have been doing their best for all the right reasons but you apparently disagree so let's not go there....

All the best for the future but maybe consider studying for a degree in virology yourself before spreading stuff of this nature?

How I feel is nothing you need to apologise for here. The malpractice is systemic, born of 'policy following' and believing in those who set policies without doing due diligence and open minded, personal exploration. I have read enough studies, debated enough professionals and learned from enough professionals already to be clear that the key points raised as flaws in this and other medical topics are never successfully rebutted by those who use appeals to authority in place of addressing fine points.

All I have done here and in other posts is point people towards those who do hold doctorates in relevant fields and who concur that 'vaccines are the junk science of the 20th century' (a quote from one of the early vaccine pioneers himself).

We'll have to agree to disagree. I guess.

I just know the best scientists in the world, those with firsts from Oxbridge and Harvard / Yale are going to end up trying to do good for the world in the very best science jobs whilst those who aren't the best will generally end up being your conspiracy theorists, in this case, your anti-vaxers.

You can not possibly disagree with this. It could never be the other way round. I can only expect those with phony 'Trump University' degrees to end up anti-vaxers.* And you're fine on that side?

I can't help but feel though that if you're going to post on such a contentious issue (and the anti-vax cause is that) then you've got to be ready for people who disagree with you. A lot of people I've disagreed with consider steemit their safe place. They really shouldn't. People make posts, others post comments. That ends steemit etiquette 101 as far as I see. If you're not ready to receive dissenting comments, then maybe you're not ready to post?

Either way, I'm tired of this nonsense and won't be replying to any more posts on this, here.

*I'm fairly sure the fraud that was Trump University would never have offered biomedical degrees. It just felt good to write at the time, in today's world with Trump being Trump and America being America.

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