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RE: Bernie Sanders - Socialist - Campaing in $450,000 Debt: Kicker - He Won't Pay
Yeah 83% when you don't have a choice and if you mock the demi-god ruler that controls the elections you get to go to the gulag. Give me a break. The guy that murders 40 million people isn't popular, what kind of propaganda have you been inundated with. If you piled up all the bodies of Russian communism, you would reach the moon.
killed 40 million?
tell me, where on this graph does it crash by 20%? Hint: it doesn't
http://www.ibtimes.com/how-many-people-did-joseph-stalin-kill-1111789
There ya go. 20 - 60 million dead by communism. Horrible.
propaganda, that would show up on population graphs would it not? That's a third of their population
That is internal research man, their own numbers. Even they agree.
#1 that includes the famines that were not man-made so they have no bearing on this #2 the market reforms to turn it capitalist killed more than stalin did #3 This was an attempt to save the revolution from the opportunists who were trying to turn it back to the right (many through force)
The lifespan increased massively under stalin, which prevented many deaths. Capitalism kills 2.5 times as many per capita as your worst propaganda claims communism killed so the point is moot either way lmao
Here we go again. Stalin forced starvation onto the Ukrainians to break their will. He intentionally did it. He used the military (with force) to stop the most fertile producers in the entire country to break Ukrainian nationalism and seize full power over the state. He starved them and created a famine, freaking idiotic communism. Dude, these guys intentionally kill their own for the purpose of power.
https://www.loc.gov/exhibits/archives/ukra.html
its because they burned the crops and salted the land because he wouldn't let them use their food as leverage. There simply wasn't enough food and they made it worse so they suffered for it. Somebody had to starve, so it was those who forced it on everyone
Great so we agree that under communism it is acceptable to use force in order to seize one's possessions, even to the point of death, for political power. Centralized political power, under a militaristic dictatorship. Now we're getting somewhere.
#1 they went against the will of the majority of votes so that's delusional
#2 it was far more democratic than the United states and that 'all-powerful dictatorship" is just propaganda
Joseph Stalin - Here he goes with voter fraud. - "It's not the people who vote that count. It's the people who count the votes."
he didn't have absolute power, there are literally thousands of examples of this. Stop denying history
Haha, right. He just used the military to forcefully control society and owned the media so you could only hear the party message. The party or polit-bureau has absolute power and elects leaders from within. The people have nothing to do with the politics of the country, it is fully owned/controlled. It's animal farm man, all animals are equal, just some are more equal than others.
elects leaders from within? First hand accounts say that they won because party members were popular.
again I have many first hand accounts and even anti-communist historians agree you are wrong.
There weren't even real elections. Popular in what sense, you have 1 opinion allowed and that is all you're exposed to? Well shit if steemit were like that we couldn't even have this discussion.
each union of workers met and voted on who they thought should lead them after a series of debates and discussions, where anybody was allowed to talk and make a point. That is literally how democracy works