One other thing that did not come through very clearly was the implication that Judy Wood and John Hutchison may be disinfo or misdirection. Their claims should be assessed with skepticism. Especially since there is a lot of evidence that John Hutchison is a fraud. You find lots of info and youtube videos on this. This one is the most damning in my opinion:
So be careful who you trust! Just because the information seems legitimate, doesn't mean it is. OR, it could be partly true and partly false. For example, with Hutchison, maybe he is playing the fraud to discredit all similar claims about the electromagnetic effects he allegedly discovered. Judy Wood could be the same.
Also, Bob, you should take any footage from 9/11 with a HUGE grain of salt. Especially footage of the airplanes, which appears to be fake. But don't take my word for it. There is lots of evidence out there. Some of the most compelling of which IMHO can be found in the September Clues documentary:
The sheer amount of fake imagery we are fed about what is going on in this world is astounding.
Thankyou for your very thorough and detailed response.
All the theories in the world are trumped by observation of nature in action. This journey for me was about establishing LENR truth and by extension, clearing the names of Pons and Fleischmann. I never expected to end up explaining the anomalies in 911 and by extension having to re-consider my world view.
My understanding comes from sitting down with respected and brilliant scientists who have spent some of the best years of their life in this field. Each one, that had empirical success, had a piece of the puzzle (though I suspect one knew more than he let on). Ultimately this led me to Kenneth Shoulders and John Hutchinson. The rest came from physical experiments I had done in my play and work as a child, teenager and young man. The 'jelly cars' which I know to not be true, followed by seeing Egly's pictures of ball-lightening effects led me to type "windows, round holes, 911" or something to that effect and I got a picture showing just that which was watermarked Dr. Judy Wood - enough was enough.
I had come from observed science by scientists and ended up at Shoulders and Hutchinson, Dr. Judy Wood had come from the anomalies at 911, treating it as nature in action and ended up at Shoulders and Hutchinson.
All of the rest is an extension of the implications of that, the multi-decade planing and all of the extreme actions you would have to do to keep it secret.
I will try to get myself into a position where over the next 2 years - we deliver LENR together (we have several apparently working technologies to test) and I go through, stepwise, each anomaly and show how and why it is only explainable with the extended effects as observed by 100s of experiments over decades. I would also like to repeat these experiments - those that are possible.
For me it is about science.
My first video was for shock - it was my 911 - delivering it and observing the reaction to it revealed a lot which will be key in this final stretch to delivering LENR for peaceful and positive applications. I needed to know who could be trusted.
Bob, thanks for answering. I must admit, and I say this with all due respect, your reply reads like a boiler-plate response. It is essentially a restatement of what you've already said with no sign that you took any time to digest anything I wrote or relate the actual content of my comments in any way. For example, you didn't say anything about the video I posted that appears to show Hutchison engaged in fraud. Yet you keep referring to him as if all his claims are sacrosanct. Does that mean you are piggy-backing on his fraud? Think about how that reflects on you and your claims. Do you have any doubts at all about him and his work? You keep saying you got to Shoulders and Hutchison through LENR while Judy Wood got there through investigating 9/11. But if I understand correctly from you reply, you actually got to Hutchison and Shoulders via Judy Wood, whose work you found when googling 911 glass holes. But maybe Judy was wrong in pointing towards Hutchison. You've got to be very careful here and more skeptical. Disinformation comes in many guises and usually mixes truth with lies.
Yes, I agree it is about science. But you will never be able to really explain LENR and EVOs and all the other stuff with current science. It's a dead-end. TPTB have not only been hiding the truth of LENR etc. but also more general scientific truths. If you want to stick with the current scientific paradigm, you will never be able to have full control because you'll never have full understanding. So I disagree with the premise that all the theories in the world are trumped by observation of nature in action. I agree that theory needs to agree with observation, and observation trumps theory. But theory should also be able to explain observation. The current paradigm will never be able to do that except perhaps in the most post-hoc, heuristic way. But there is a theory that is wholly consistent with LENR and "anti-gravity" and all that.
Well, I've said my peace. I don't see any reason to continue to bang my head up against a wall. I planted my signpost. That's all I can do. Ignore it if you wish, but you're making a mistake. I sincerely wish you well in all your endeavors and hope you are able to succeed in your goals.
I absolutely did not discover Dr. Judy wood until after I had got to Kenneth Shoulders and John Hutchinson. I was discussing these individuals and how I got to them with Alan Goldwater and the team working on GS 5.4 in Santa Cruz. Additionally, I started trailering (Redpill) a full two days before I came across Dr. Judy Wood's work. I came across her site at 11:47 on 25th Feb 2017. Later that afternoon I saw for the first time that she ended up at Kenneth Shoulders and John Hutchinson.
The observations of both KS and JH (transmutation, teleportation, disintegration, anti-gravity etc) I have just found out in the past few days are all attributes for high spin mono-atomic gold... just as was revealed to me in my visions in the weeks before (Redpill).
Bob, for some reason I can't answer your most recent reply directly, so I'm replying here instead. Thanks for taking the time to clarify the issue of how you came to Shoulders and Hutchison. In retrospect it's not a very important point and I probably shouldn't have even brought it up since it allowed you to continue to dodge and ignore all of the much more important points I've brought up while giving some pretense of actually addressing them.
To give one example of an issue you continue to ignore for reasons I cannot understand: how can you refer to Hutchison's work uncritically despite all the evidence of fraud (I linked to one video of many)? You are already going out on a limb here. Don't you see how citing the work of an apparent huckster as proof of something can only hurt your case and put you in the same category? Or do you dismiss all the evidence against him? And if so, why?
Keep in mind that to admit or even consider the possibility that Hutchison is a fraud does not imply DEWs don't exist. In fact, one goal of his fraudulent behavior may have been to discredit the very idea of DEWs and electro-gravitics. If you don't address the evidence against and/or continue to refer to his work uncritically, then by extension you also discredit those concepts.
As for Gardner and mono-atomic gold. I agree that m-state gold might have some relevance. But Gardner's bio is full of red flags, and the fact that his Bloodline book was serialized in the propaganda mouthpiece known as the Daily Mail speaks volumes about how (un)reliable a source it is for anything even remotely related to the truth (as does its appearance on bibliotecapleyades). And as much as I hate to say it, your uncritical referencing of Gardner's and Hutchison's work, without so much as a hint of a caveat, also speaks volumes about your credibility as a red-pill swallowing truth seeker. I sincerely hope I'm wrong. I know when you first fall down the rabbit hole it's hard to to tell see these things for what they are -- it's all a bit overwhelming.
So I'm going to say this again and for the last time: TPTB have completely flooded channels of alternative information with misdirection and disinfo as much as mainstream channels, to the extent that nearly all the alternative information 'out there' is tainted. You should be wary and suspicious of it, cautious and tentative in your interpretation of it, and careful in separating the wheat from the chaff. In essence, you need to take a very scientific approach. To do otherwise is to do a disservice to the truth. And you wouldn't want to do that, would you?
Bob, I realize the tone in my previous comment sounded ... grumpy. Sorry for that. You have my support. I just ponied up a modest donation for MFMP's work with Suhas and me356. Good luck! -JoshG
Thanks, George. Re-reading it I see it was a bit repetitive and I didn't make some points as well as I could.
One other thing that did not come through very clearly was the implication that Judy Wood and John Hutchison may be disinfo or misdirection. Their claims should be assessed with skepticism. Especially since there is a lot of evidence that John Hutchison is a fraud. You find lots of info and youtube videos on this. This one is the most damning in my opinion:
So be careful who you trust! Just because the information seems legitimate, doesn't mean it is. OR, it could be partly true and partly false. For example, with Hutchison, maybe he is playing the fraud to discredit all similar claims about the electromagnetic effects he allegedly discovered. Judy Wood could be the same.
Also, Bob, you should take any footage from 9/11 with a HUGE grain of salt. Especially footage of the airplanes, which appears to be fake. But don't take my word for it. There is lots of evidence out there. Some of the most compelling of which IMHO can be found in the September Clues documentary:
The sheer amount of fake imagery we are fed about what is going on in this world is astounding.
Hi Joshg
Thankyou for your very thorough and detailed response.
All the theories in the world are trumped by observation of nature in action. This journey for me was about establishing LENR truth and by extension, clearing the names of Pons and Fleischmann. I never expected to end up explaining the anomalies in 911 and by extension having to re-consider my world view.
My understanding comes from sitting down with respected and brilliant scientists who have spent some of the best years of their life in this field. Each one, that had empirical success, had a piece of the puzzle (though I suspect one knew more than he let on). Ultimately this led me to Kenneth Shoulders and John Hutchinson. The rest came from physical experiments I had done in my play and work as a child, teenager and young man. The 'jelly cars' which I know to not be true, followed by seeing Egly's pictures of ball-lightening effects led me to type "windows, round holes, 911" or something to that effect and I got a picture showing just that which was watermarked Dr. Judy Wood - enough was enough.
I had come from observed science by scientists and ended up at Shoulders and Hutchinson, Dr. Judy Wood had come from the anomalies at 911, treating it as nature in action and ended up at Shoulders and Hutchinson.
All of the rest is an extension of the implications of that, the multi-decade planing and all of the extreme actions you would have to do to keep it secret.
I will try to get myself into a position where over the next 2 years - we deliver LENR together (we have several apparently working technologies to test) and I go through, stepwise, each anomaly and show how and why it is only explainable with the extended effects as observed by 100s of experiments over decades. I would also like to repeat these experiments - those that are possible.
For me it is about science.
My first video was for shock - it was my 911 - delivering it and observing the reaction to it revealed a lot which will be key in this final stretch to delivering LENR for peaceful and positive applications. I needed to know who could be trusted.
Bob, thanks for answering. I must admit, and I say this with all due respect, your reply reads like a boiler-plate response. It is essentially a restatement of what you've already said with no sign that you took any time to digest anything I wrote or relate the actual content of my comments in any way. For example, you didn't say anything about the video I posted that appears to show Hutchison engaged in fraud. Yet you keep referring to him as if all his claims are sacrosanct. Does that mean you are piggy-backing on his fraud? Think about how that reflects on you and your claims. Do you have any doubts at all about him and his work? You keep saying you got to Shoulders and Hutchison through LENR while Judy Wood got there through investigating 9/11. But if I understand correctly from you reply, you actually got to Hutchison and Shoulders via Judy Wood, whose work you found when googling 911 glass holes. But maybe Judy was wrong in pointing towards Hutchison. You've got to be very careful here and more skeptical. Disinformation comes in many guises and usually mixes truth with lies.
Yes, I agree it is about science. But you will never be able to really explain LENR and EVOs and all the other stuff with current science. It's a dead-end. TPTB have not only been hiding the truth of LENR etc. but also more general scientific truths. If you want to stick with the current scientific paradigm, you will never be able to have full control because you'll never have full understanding. So I disagree with the premise that all the theories in the world are trumped by observation of nature in action. I agree that theory needs to agree with observation, and observation trumps theory. But theory should also be able to explain observation. The current paradigm will never be able to do that except perhaps in the most post-hoc, heuristic way. But there is a theory that is wholly consistent with LENR and "anti-gravity" and all that.
Well, I've said my peace. I don't see any reason to continue to bang my head up against a wall. I planted my signpost. That's all I can do. Ignore it if you wish, but you're making a mistake. I sincerely wish you well in all your endeavors and hope you are able to succeed in your goals.
I absolutely did not discover Dr. Judy wood until after I had got to Kenneth Shoulders and John Hutchinson. I was discussing these individuals and how I got to them with Alan Goldwater and the team working on GS 5.4 in Santa Cruz. Additionally, I started trailering (Redpill) a full two days before I came across Dr. Judy Wood's work. I came across her site at 11:47 on 25th Feb 2017. Later that afternoon I saw for the first time that she ended up at Kenneth Shoulders and John Hutchinson.
The observations of both KS and JH (transmutation, teleportation, disintegration, anti-gravity etc) I have just found out in the past few days are all attributes for high spin mono-atomic gold... just as was revealed to me in my visions in the weeks before (Redpill).
Starfire
So here you have now many things that are matching
Bob, for some reason I can't answer your most recent reply directly, so I'm replying here instead. Thanks for taking the time to clarify the issue of how you came to Shoulders and Hutchison. In retrospect it's not a very important point and I probably shouldn't have even brought it up since it allowed you to continue to dodge and ignore all of the much more important points I've brought up while giving some pretense of actually addressing them.
To give one example of an issue you continue to ignore for reasons I cannot understand: how can you refer to Hutchison's work uncritically despite all the evidence of fraud (I linked to one video of many)? You are already going out on a limb here. Don't you see how citing the work of an apparent huckster as proof of something can only hurt your case and put you in the same category? Or do you dismiss all the evidence against him? And if so, why?
Keep in mind that to admit or even consider the possibility that Hutchison is a fraud does not imply DEWs don't exist. In fact, one goal of his fraudulent behavior may have been to discredit the very idea of DEWs and electro-gravitics. If you don't address the evidence against and/or continue to refer to his work uncritically, then by extension you also discredit those concepts.
As for Gardner and mono-atomic gold. I agree that m-state gold might have some relevance. But Gardner's bio is full of red flags, and the fact that his Bloodline book was serialized in the propaganda mouthpiece known as the Daily Mail speaks volumes about how (un)reliable a source it is for anything even remotely related to the truth (as does its appearance on bibliotecapleyades). And as much as I hate to say it, your uncritical referencing of Gardner's and Hutchison's work, without so much as a hint of a caveat, also speaks volumes about your credibility as a red-pill swallowing truth seeker. I sincerely hope I'm wrong. I know when you first fall down the rabbit hole it's hard to to tell see these things for what they are -- it's all a bit overwhelming.
So I'm going to say this again and for the last time: TPTB have completely flooded channels of alternative information with misdirection and disinfo as much as mainstream channels, to the extent that nearly all the alternative information 'out there' is tainted. You should be wary and suspicious of it, cautious and tentative in your interpretation of it, and careful in separating the wheat from the chaff. In essence, you need to take a very scientific approach. To do otherwise is to do a disservice to the truth. And you wouldn't want to do that, would you?
Bob, I realize the tone in my previous comment sounded ... grumpy. Sorry for that. You have my support. I just ponied up a modest donation for MFMP's work with Suhas and me356. Good luck! -JoshG
Thanks joshg,
we are all looking for answers from the day we are born, thanks for helping out.