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RE: Confessions of a convicted human trafficker....
If you think prostitution is no biggie, as you suggest. Then I would ask you here and now, When did you try it? Why didn't you just sell your ass after your wife died? You would only have had a misdemeanor as you said! You could have been making your own money for selling your body-I guess that would be more honest according to what you said, that prostitution is just fine. If so, then why didn't YOU become a prostitute? Men pay for other men as much as they pay for women. Would love to hear your reasoning as to why you don't need to sell your ass to men when you were "depressed and desperate", but it's cool if women do it and you profit from it. I'm all ears.
Now when I end up homeless which seems like it's going to be inevitable and haven't eaten in month I may have too. Then that would be karma wouldn't it.....
Kudos to you, sir, for answering that judgmental poster. Best of luck to you in finding employment.
Thank you.
Is this supposed to make sense?
@psychanaut you believe in a world that never actually existed. I used to believe the same.
Just like I used to believe in a fair trial, and innocent until proven guilty.
The kind of world you would like, (and me too) will not come about by throwing around words the like you have. Nor will it come about with the govern-cement that we currently have.
Welfare was supposed to keep women off the street. What it did was anything but. It turned ALL women into prostitutes. Getting knocked up every 3 years to keep the checks coming. Making baby-daddies a thing, because you can't have a man in the house... And making it possible for women to make the worst choices in men and not pay for it; These baby-mamas go after the bad boys, because they are exciting, and they don't need the money. The good men are shoved to the side, and may only enter the picture after she is over the hill.
Furthermore, welfare is for someone who has an address. When you find yourself on the street, getting through govern-cement bureaucracy is a pain in the ass. It usually cannot be done by an 18 year old runnaway on her own. It is fucking easy to do if you are the baby of a baby-mama. You already know the papers to fill out, which lines to stand in, and you have an address. So, the welfare makes the welfare class, and doesn't help the needy.
Or, I might turn the tables on you and say, "so you would prefer these runnaways to starve?" We do not live in a society where you can just get out of highschool and get a job that pays a living wage. A lot needs to change in our world. Yelling at the men who keep these escorts safe while they earn a living is not going to help. ... however, it is the way the mainstream media has programmed us. (they are the boogeymen)
Very true words @builderofcastles thank you for the insight. I really like the term govern-cement that is clever.
No clue what you're babbling about. I think you must be speaking to yourself.
This is poor logic.
I personally wouldn't be willing to have gay sex for money. Or eat poop for money. Or read luke stokes posts for money, but my unwillingness to do so doesn't mean that I give up my right to advocate that others, who are willing to endure these things, be allowed to do so.
I also don't smoke pot. But i think it should be legal... i just don't see how it makes sense that you should have to committ a crime to think it shouldnt be a crime.
ALso, i should point out where the "trafficking" charge came from, because some of you might not have picked up on it in the article.
One of these prostitutes was underage. The mustafa guy "trafficked" her in that he gave her a ride to and from her dates, and transporting her makes it fit the elements for human trafficking under michigan statues. AFAICT, no one was ever alleging that the prostitutes were being held against their will and compelled to do this (as the term trafficking might lead you to believe)
Not that employing an underage prostitute is necessarily a stand up thing, just that the charge itself is misleading.
No one said anything about anything you just said. No one mentioned pot, no one mentioned poop, no one mentioned any of these distractions in your reply.
You just proved my point. You yourself would never sell yourself for money and have ZERO experience doing so. Therefore, you really don't have shit to say about what other people are doing or how other people feel about it.
How about you stick to what you know, and leave the commentary about other people's experience, that you don't know jack shit about, alone?
No sorry, i didn't. My point stands. If you have a problem with prostitution, take it up with a prostitute.
In the mean time, you don't have a monopoly on relevant opinion just because you have somehow cultivated some (as far as i can see entirely meritless) sense of moral superiority
I downvoted your post below for being a ridiculous and wholly unwarranted personal attack. I also downvoted your replies to modprobe and sarah, for much the same reason.
Youre entitled to disapprove of what OP did, but youre definitely not entitled to make accusations about people being sexual predators and a danger to women and children and call people names. Personally, i think it took a lot of guts to post this and
If you want to continue to shit on it, and can't restrain yourself from meritless accusations, I will continue to downvote you. I get that in a lot of the "pizzagate" type threads, the "anyone who questions my views is a pedophile and anyone who objects to being called a pedophile is trying to censor me" line of reasoning plays, but its not going to play with me.
@sigmajin I came to your page to see if you'd decided to start posting again, and sadly no but the title of this was too intriguing to pass up...very kind of you to back him up like this. I agree it was brave to put it out there. The thing that bothers me most about these types of convictions is the fact that they continue to haunt you. Shouldn't the point of 'serving time' be that you paid your dues and it's done? I have a friend who was charged with statutory rape many years ago-he was 20, she was 16, they were a couple and it was consensual but the parents pressed charges. Because of this he's a registered sex offender and has to check in when he moves, can't live within so much distance of a school, and if people check out that site where they track sex offenders there's a big fat red dot on his address. It's awful.
P.S. Those with meritless moral superiority issues almost always lack empathy and will not come around to another's point of view no matter how logical.
P.P.S Your gif made me snicker
I don't have a problem with anything but men like you. Can't you do any better? What do you want? Praise for not being able to handle your business on your own? You want praise for that? Get in line buddy, life is tough. I have no sympathy for old men who can do whatever they please and instead of manning up and doing honest work or taking care of business, they make excuses for themselves and then expect an ego massage afterwards. Get over yourself. Learn something. Build something. Help children. You know, be a man?
Just incidentally, i don't know you, and unlike you, i don't presume to make judgements about those I don't know.
But i find it very unlikely that you worked harder for what you have than i ve worked for what i have , or that you "handle your shit" better than me.
Its incredibly presumptuous of you to assume that you know what my life is like, or what i've accomplished, or what i expect.
I think everyone here would be interested to hear about the provenance of your moral superiority. Because when you just talk about how shitty everyone else is, it sounds like empty, meritless surquedry.
You should also not be around women or young girls. I pray you never have children of your own.
We may find it aesthetically or morally displeasing to consider the fact that there are women out there for whom sex-for-money isn't in the least bit offensive; that there are women out there who may quite enjoy that line of work. But by what right do we impose our preferences or morals upon them, to determine that we have rightful censorship over their free will because we regard certain transactions as unpleasant? That is dehumanizing and harmful to those women; not only does it rob them of legitimate choices, but it casts aspersions upon them, arguing that they are lesser quality humans for regarding sex as anything but dirty and evil. We have no such right.
With that being said, we may rightfully regard it as tragic and unconscionable when women feel like they have no other option than to sell sex. That is, indeed, a horrible thing, and we ought to do our utmost to create a world and a society where women (and men) do have better options, that they don't have to accept a role they view as demeaning in order to make ends meet. But raging online about how @cyber-punk is a terrible person because he worked with people who gave women a safe place in which to exercise their option to sell companionship and sex does nothing to help provide more options to them. It is necessary to conclude that our energies would be better allocated in some other way.
If we're looking for the real offenders who rob women of better options, so that we can look for real solutions to help those people, we would do well to spend some time meditating on @builderofcastles's comment.
Oh I'm sorry, I don't listen to the justifications that men give to other men who treat women like parking garages.
That's fine, you're welcome to do that. But if you ever decide to leave your safe space of emotional solipsism, there's a real world out here waiting for you, and we'll be happy to welcome you back into it. :)
Really? That's the best you can come up with?
It's about choice dear. The guy is opening up and doing good now. Give him a chance don't hate.
The guy is a loser and should be in jail. Any man who is that much of a pathetic loser who can only eat food if women are treated like gas stations, isn't much of a man in my book. Too bad your standard for men is so low.
Instead of asking "why" it happened - because that brings condemnation, try asking of the "how" it happened which brings compassion, empathy, forgiveness, kindness. Ask with your inside voice though.
@cyber-punk candidly shared what he shared for himself not for debate purposes.
It was a huge struggle if you heard him.
Hi, I'm sorry that you think your opinion means anything to me, when it doesn't.