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Soooooo, I totally, totally get that you're sharing a story and not at all asking for advice or opinions...but.... what are friends for right? If you don't get beaten over the head with other people's viewpoints, what are we even doing here? Haha..

Anyway, here's my opinion that you definitely didn't ask for. I'd lease a car for another two years and then look at a Model 3 or Model Y. In two years they'll be crazy cheap and should have passed all the regulatory hurdles to be fully autonomous... and charging should be super quick. Full autonomy might mean that your car could work for you, or you could work while doing long trips or drive your son around... you might not be keen on any of that... but that's fine, it'll be an option if you are. Looking away all the car companies, they're all working on EVs and autonomy, with Tesla leading the charge.

We're leasing a Forrester... we're in Oregon and it's state law that everyone drive one... but our lease is up in September, so we'll be going through the same thought process...

Really?? We are that close to fully autonomous vehicles being in mass use and at a consumer friendly price point? If that is true, I am totally down to get in for a self driver. I need to do some research!

I knew everyone was working on it, but thought we were still 5-10 years away from a mass produced version.

So the Model 3 by Telsa actually has a self-driving option (I think it's maybe $5000 extra)... I think it would be classified as Level 3/Level 4 autonomy. People are doing roadtrips right now where the car is in full control for 70% of the trip. Telsa is pushing for a $35,000 price point, but haven't got their yet, I think they're still around $60,000. Telsa is also having to jump through all the regulation hurdles, but while they're in that process, they're collecting a crapton of data.

The main problem for me (and maybe for you) is that Tesla isn't looking at leasing options... so you'd have to buy it. That said... you can get second hand Model 3s for $50,000, so they're keeping their value pretty nicely. Which makes sense... they have 18 moving parts, which is like 3000 moving parts fewer than a normal car.... someone has done 350,000 miles in their Model S, with only 12% degradation to the battery.

Honda Honda Honda ❗ There is nothing else. Buy the '18 and have an independent shop do the maintenance(still covers warranty) and buy many kilos of silver with the saved monies ✌

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I do love my Honda. Can't get in a new one anywhere near my current payments so a new Civic is probably off the table... but I do so love that new car smell!

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The good thing in leasing a car and not buying it is that the leasing some company takes all the expenses for parts and servicing withing leasing period. And another side of the medal is that in around 3 years the car will below to the company and you paid almost the full cost for the car.

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