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RE: Capitalism, Harvard And Goldman Sachs

in #life6 years ago

Can you sell children?

Me personally?lolol
I'm a anarchist and freedom is everything to me, and I respect everyone's freedom.
So I find that a bizarre question.

Can you sell children as in is it being done? - well yes it is.

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If not, why not?
If you can't buy children or sell or pay in children it is a regulated market. We're just haggling over price.

Property right principles forbids ownership of another person!!
Every individual is their own agency.
That's why property rights are essential.

If property doesn't exist (as in the communist utopia), then governmnet can have control over you - because you don't have any agency over yourself...see how this works?

Only you can own you.

You are confused with many different issues all conflating at once, matey.
Start with property rights, and work from their.

If you do understand clearly what the principles of property rights and personal agency are, then you can't argue against them really, can you?

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Nope, not confused. Just on point.

"Only you can own you."
Says who? Nature?

The definition of property rights, and their purpose, are rules of men. Not of nature.

There is no "natural law" of property rights.

Rights, on their face, fly in the face of natural law. They are there to mitigate Natural Law; Human and Civil Rights are there because Natural Law doesn't respect them.

I appreciate your anarchist leanings. I clearly share your views on many topics as your comments, the exception being your acceptance of market based dogma as natural law. This conflation is a product of 100 years of corporate propaganda.

There is no "natural law" of property rights.

experiment - go up to a lion and try to take its teeth - then see if there are no property rights..

...animal territories are property rights.

So if they are the law's of men - what are these?

Lets' iron it out point by point rather than various issues.

So you are arguing that animals don't have property right, correct?
That animals don't claim their territory?

Explain this conundrum (it's not hard really, it's self evident).

"Only you can own you."
Says who? Nature?

Yes. Every living thing owns there self. Or do you think otherwise?
Anything less are man made laws of control.

What about the rights of the lion's prey?

"Take the lion's teeth"?

I think you mean take the formerly living antelope that had it's own self, from the lion's mouth?

The lion's prey has a self or had a self. It is denied its self through through the lion's natural pursuit. So we have lions gorging on antelope all over the place with no recourse. The antelope need to move or accept the consequences. That is natural law.

Territory is not the same as property rights. Territory must be defended, first and foremost. Property rights means you don't have to arm yourself to defend your property. Your rights as a property owner remove the necessity of defending territory first and foremost.

The whole reason for property rights is to avoid the Law of the Jungle shit people throw around by conflating the artificial construct of property rights with predatory or herd territory. That leads to violent conflict, resource overshoot, and unimpeded predator and prey relationships. And even worse, the field is tilted towards the predators for obvious reasons.

I like and respect property rights. I think markets are great. They are important. But they are not a function of natural law. Man made rules like property rights and the rules of trade are in place specifically to supplant natural law as the arbiter of security and opportunity.

What about the rights of the lion's prey?

Answering a question with a question tells you a such lot about....
Not staying on the issue is either intellectually weak, or disingenuous.

It's a simple question that you refuse to answer.

The reason to avoid clarity is because your logic will fail.

ie your philosophical position is not logical.
I know this, and can illustrate it if you stay on topic.

Then it's just about ego, (winning or losing a discussion), not learning.

Good luck, matey.

My position is completely logical. The creations and institutions of men do not rely on natural law. I have said nothing but this point in all of my comments to you.

Good day.

so..........answer the question, perhaps? (simple is good)

Does a lions tooth belong to the lion? Or not?

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