@anotherjoe

Well, I said it figuratively. Many things are currently a fact but in 50 years can be a fact no more. Again, slavery just last century was a fact. A natural fact. not an argument

It is different to be influenced by someone's work and different to follow them under a groupie fashion. Huge difference actually.

That's not bad, it's just is a fact.

It can change, as much as the world can change "without goverment" or "slavery". You just abide to something and excuse it as natural fact. Why not accept that goverment is a natural fact of leadership? Why not accept anything around you as natural fact and stop trying? ;)

Maybe others embrace it, but it seems to defy what is natural about humans as a race, and certainly defies common social construct. That doesn't mean it's wrong.

Nothing is wrong or right on this planet. Things are subjective. Again. I am bringing the goverment part in because I know you are an anarchist and that you will gringe when a statist brings you that social construct excuse :)

"Natural" is a logical fallacy. Argument from nature. Guess why. ---> nature changes all the time.

Ah, hypocrisy. what a glorious thing...