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RE: As a nanny, I am dreading flu shot season...

in #life8 years ago

The mercury compound in vaccines is not absorbed by the body and does not cause toxicity. Vaccines do not cause autism, there is no evidence to support this idea besides anecdotal stories and misrepresentation.

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I think Mercury was replaced by Aluminum. I feel really silly pointing this out, but injecting toxic material including the heavy metal Aluminum into an otherwise healthy body can't end well.

Everything is a matter of concentration. Aluminum is fairly common in the environment and you are continuously exposed to it. The concentrations of these things (in vaccines) are not high. Everything has pluses and minuses, it is always necessary to focus on the complete picture.

For instance, if you were to get cancer would you refuse chemotherapy or radiotherapy? I don't suspect you would choose death, however subjecting your self to those therapies you are choosing to do extreme damage to your body, however the net result can be years added back to your life, so that's the trade off.

I would smartly refuse chemo.

My mother smartly accepted it. Thanks to it she is still alive these 12 years later. You would not be so lucky with your indicated course of action.

lol chemo is poison many better cures.

You are misinformed -- http://thinktwice.com/studies_mercury.htm
Plus there are many more nasty ingredients besides mercury in vaccines.

Nope, I am not misinformed.

The issue is, and I looked through a few of these publications. NO actual work is done in ANY of them. No figures, no real data, no anything.

Take for example:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/25489565

Here we have an article financed by: Dwoskin Family Foundation and the Selz Foundation, with researchers who openly disclose an agenda: Conflict of Interest: All of the investigators on the present study have been involved in vaccine/biologic litigation.

No real work done in that article, a lot of (biased) discussion but no actual science. Theres a ton of money behind the anti-vaccination movement, so its easy to fall victim to this even for people with the best of intentions. However these sorts of publications are no more reliable than a publication by Monsanto preaching the safety of glyphosate. Whether or not their is an issue its easy to misconstrue data when you have a disclosed bias.

I will say this, I don't see a reason to include Thimerosal as the preservative in vaccines. Even if there is the remote possibility of an issue then it should be removed and replaced with an alternative, if GSK is able to produce vaccines lacking Thimerosal then perhaps a "better safe then sorry" approach is the best in this regard.

Finally "many more nasty ingredients besides mercury in vaccines?" There is some aluminum, trace formaldehyde (which is produced by the body in higher concentrations then received in vaccination doses), and what egg proteins and phosphate buffer? Scary (not at all).

I am still waiting for a good publication validating any of the anti vaccination claims. While there are a plethora of well done studies refuting these claims and providing more than acceptable alternative explanations for the rise in autism diagnoses, I've yet to read a well done study from the opposite perspective.

While it is good that people are trying to compile good primary sources (actual scientific publications) it would be good to look for ones with out disclosed biases. Find me an NIH funded study showing these sorts of results or an NSF funded study, performed by academics with no biases. I will be more than willing to be convinced to re-open my skepticism on this issue. However at this point, I have seen more than enough to conclude that the there is no tie between vaccination and autism. Again, I will state that as a scientist, I default to skepticism, however the data just isnt there to warrant it.

you do know that simply saying something doesn't make it so, right?

Look in the mirror when you say that.

i would have, but i was too busy doing my chemistry.

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